It seems like we may have another surge of Covid-19 in the USA

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  1. ToughTalk

    ToughTalk Well-Known Member

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    More good news, by people smarter then the op.
    91 percent reduction in hospitalizations
     
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    CenterField Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Yeah. The solution is the oral antivirals, which hit the virus in all its variants present and future, given that they target processes that they all need to replicate, and these processes do not mutate.
     
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    Active case versus hospitalized cases...
    (local area near me)
    Take note of the dark red line...

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  4. ToughTalk

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    The solution is the likely natural evolution of COVID in that it will lose it's lethality over time as it mutates.

    Chill out or buy a vyzr mask.
     
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    Then Delta variant should be ten times more deadly then Vuhan variant, fatality should be closer to the fatality of Ebola. I did not hear that news from any source.
     
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    From the start, global daily deaths is still slowly declining. You could chalk this up to the variants not being as deadly or being able to deal with those who are sick better. The vaccine. But that's the reality.

    Global daily deaths. Each new wave has been less deadly the the previous one. And this new wave is really seeing it's numbers drop right off.
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    ****! What the hell am I doing posting statistical good news?! The OP wants us all to be scared.
     
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    A similar situation is happening in the UK but those in hospital are unvaccinated by a huge margin over the vaccinated. We are seeing the same with pregnant woman being hospitalised with Covid with unvaccinated being over 90% of admissions even though more than 80% of the population are fully vaccinated with less than 20% unvaccinated

    One in six Covid patients requiring the NHS’s highest form of life-saving care are unvaccinated pregnant women, new figures reveal.
    https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sou...sQFnoECAcQAQ&usg=AOvVaw2PcR9w4NWtA3BcG3M_3ZHy
     
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    I don't know about 10 times, but it was much worse than the original one. Fortunately the vaccine saved lots of lives, and fortunately the new variant is mild.
     
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    There is no evidence that vaccines saved any life if you look at the large sample e.g. population of United States.
    Your theory about extreme deadliness of Delta variant does not have any kind of confirmation.
    The moving average of death rate is about 1100 per day for the last 2 years, without any reduction.
    If vaccines are working (9 times more effective preventing death according to CDC) then we should see death rate much lower.
     
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    There are hundreds of thousands dead Americans and scientific evidence, but we already know you always bury your head in the sand when you dont like what you hear.
     
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    So far, ZERO evidence, unfortunately.
    The scientific evidence you are referring to is the collection of bias small samples "research" articles.

    Appeal to Authority fallacy has been detected though.
     
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    There is tons os scientific evidence, but what can I do since you reject science an embrace internet propaganda instead.
     
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    What propaganda?
    I take data from CDC and Worldmeter.
    I went to school, I was not the best in class, but I know how add subtract multiply numbers.
    All kind of research and science is good if it correlates with real statistical data. If it does not it is not a good science.

    The problem is that the fear injected by the government and their puppet CNN/MSNBC etc somehow paralyze brains.
    That is an interesting phenomenon.
     
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    Then show me from CDC and Worldometer that Delta variant was nothing to worry about.
     
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    I would not be comfortable with this idea. What if this new pathogen mutates into a real killer? Our knowledge in immunology and genetics are probably not sufficient enough to try to release our own engineered pathogen in hopes of it out competing others without harming us.
     
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    Someday in the future.
     
  17. kreo

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    That is not the point.
    The point is that basically vaccination did not change anything.
    Similar number of cases, similar number of deaths between 2020 and 2021
    Yes, apparently vaccine does not work against Delta.
    Vaccines do not help to fight COVID, it is just a tool to impose dictatorial power.
     
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