It time Trump fights back

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  1. Ashwin Poonawal

    Ashwin Poonawal Active Member

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    Trump has lived his life feeling that he is bigger than the rest of the world put together. As a crowning expression of his ego he reached out for presidency. Fate is getting ready to flush out a lot of crud, that has gathered in humanity's attitude in the last century. Trump getting his wish is just one more, probably one of the last, factor coming together for this purpose. The capitalistic greed that makes societies tyrannical and governments ineffective is coming to the edge of the cliff. The storm is gathering. The irony of fate is that it chose an unscrupulous capitalist to precipitate the storm. The destruction will be devastating and painful. But after the labor pain, a good baby, named social justice will come into existence.

    No one need to be proud or hopeful for immediate gratification from the crude and stupid presidency we have installed. The immediate results cannot be anything but bad.

    About Trump fighting back, forget it. Fighting forward has put him into a political cage. He cannot save himself, nor can he help his supporters, neither he can serve his country or the world. In this equation we are all losers. All we can hope for is that after the field is weeded out, beautiful new crop will grow in its place, where humanity will take care of all its members, not just the rich and powerful.
     
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    If there is any evidence of Trump collusion with Russia it would have been collected before Trump took office. The investigation has been ongoing for at least 14 months. The evidence, if any, needs to be produced right now.

    “It's why liberal thinkers have traditionally abhorred secret courts, secret surveillance and secret evidence, and in the past would have reflexively discouraged the news media from printing the unverified or unverifiable charges emanating from such secret sources. But because it's Donald Trump, no one seems to care.

    We should care. The uncertainty has led to widespread public terror, mass media hysteria and excess, and possibly even panic in the White House itself, where, who knows, Trump may even have risked military confrontation with Russia in an effort to shake the collusion accusations. All of this is exacerbated by the constant stream of leaks and hints at mother lodes of evidence that are just around the corner. It's quite literally driving the country crazy.

    The public deserves to know what's going on. It deserved to know before the election, it deserved to know before the inauguration, and it deserves to know now.” THE ROLLING STONE, How Did Russiagate Start?, By Matt Taibbi, 5/19/17.
    http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/features/taibbi-how-did-russiagate-start-w482262
     
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    ALL he's been doing is fighting back, every time his delicate little feelings are hurt.....maybe he should try doing something for Americans and set aside his pouting and infantile whining
     
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    Wrong again, that's one of your traits. Comes with that DNA characteristic with the leftness, of being a victim waiting to happen.
     
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    Why cant he?

    I would say his concern over those in the Intel Community.

    I partially agree with that. So he should go after those who are known. Which should include those Demos who like to get in front of the cameras.
     
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    Yep, and I think it would have included all the Repubs contenders. Not just Trump.
     
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    Trump will need Congressional support to make any radical changes to significantly empower and relieve the American people. He should call for specific steps to accomplish that when it will have the most impact on the 2018 elections. I doubt that the RP Congress will do anything that does not directly or indirectly benefit primarily the entrenched political class it actually represents.
     
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    I realize that you don't know how your government works, but neither does your hero, the Clown Prince.

    The President, any President, does not have the authority or the power to order an investigation. Certainly not the type of totally politically motivated ones you call for.

    Rerunning the failed witch hunts of the past might fill the pages of the clickbait fake news blogs you righties love so much, but it won't change much else.
     
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    Those investigations would certainly have targeted any candidate thought to be a potential threat to a Clinton victory.
     
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    Good luck with that exercise in futility.

    Trump would do well to just focus on making America great and leaving all the pettiness to the democrats. Sadly what Trump does is the exact opposite of that by handing the media and the DNC the very ammo that they in turn use against him. Trump needs to stop saying stupid **** and doing stupid things... but that is not going to happen either.
     
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    Trump is smart enough to keep attacking most of his serious enemies often enough to encourage frequent easily discredited spurious attacks.
     
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    It's worse than that. If Trump or anyone in his administration state a fact, the media just assumed they are lying. Meanwhile, an unnamed source cannot be questioned or even their identities asked to be known, they are afforded unassailable integrity, as the below video illustrates.



    From your link:

    However, let's say the FBI is actually investigating collusion between the Trump campaign and the Russian state. That's the most serious possibility, and the one exciting so much public dread.

    If it's that, what's at the heart of that case? Why can't we be told what's going on? Operational secrecy would be a believable excuse, were it not for the fact that so much else has been leaked. Intelligence sources even appeared to give up their ability to capture Russian officials celebrating Trump's election win. If something like that can be leaked, and if even foreign governments can be told about "leverages of pressure" Russia allegedly has on Trump, it stands to reason that the American public should have heard what's behind the Trump-Russia investigation by now.


    I agree with this. If there was something to this Russia Trump investigation, why risk prison time by committing a felony by leaking classified information, and not leak some crime Trump supposedly committed instead?

    It's like having access to the intercepted courier dispatches Benedict Arnold sent to the British. Let's say George Washington makes them all secret, threatens prison for anyone who leaks anything in any of the dozen dispatches. If you had access to all dispatches Arnold sent, including one where he commits treason, why risk prison by leaking a half dozen times about benign dispatches where he discussed taxes or favorite poems? Why not leak that he committed treason???
     
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    Trying to defend a dumbass like Trump and a presidency that's imploding is making you seriously desperate
     
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    Trump should slow down, stop tweeting and chill out.
     
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    Not at all.....any that assist in making the Demos and the left irrelevant. Is just an added bonus. Whats desperate is your lame attempts at trying to bring some sort of comeback thinking you are making a point. Not understanding how truly you are outmatched and out of your league.
     
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    I see you didn't deny that Trump is a dumbass
     
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    I see you didn't deny that you were in the same company. :lol:
     
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    trying to divert from it too
     
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    Don't worry I wont let you......as I like keeping leftists on display. Think of it as like being treated as a carnival freak.
     
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    yes trump does fit that description
     
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    :roflol:

    Trump is proving to be the dumbest occupant ever in the Oval office.
     
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    Well he was a Democrat. But then someone rescued him.
     
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    trump is proposing to spend us into oblivion so whoever rescued him was crap at it.
     
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    Trump is nothing more than a lame excuse by the leftness. If Rubio or Bush would have won. Nothing would change. They would still be doing the same damn thing. The leftness has shown their intolerance and started something, that they don't have the balls to finish.
     
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    true but only because rubio and bush are as bad. what independents and democrats and many republicans dont like is Trumps incompetence.
     

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