It's Time for the Scientific Community to Admit We Were Wrong About COVID and It Cost Lives

Trump should not of taken over the task force if he did not want the blame

 

should have left it to the task force, but Trump has a fragile ego, and they were getting so much attention, he had to take it over, then made a fool of himself

 

Blame for what?

 

You are entitled to your opinion. The historical facts and data show who the fools were.

 

Stop stating falsehoods please about what I said. This is why I keep pointing out that what you say is false. At no time did I ever state anything from Epoch Times is false. Stop making false statements. If you can not understand what I stated ask. I did not state everything they say is false. I said they have a clear bias about Covid 19 like you which flavours what they say just like it does you.

Next when you respond telling me if I can't produce data with granulation you specify it doesn't prove or disprove anything makes zero sense. You are the one not me who is claiming people are dying from taking a vaccine for Covid 19. You. Not me, you. Stop deflecting. I have challenged you to provide data of deaths from Covid 19 vaccine. You now have presented one incident which draws no direct link of death from the vaccine but I acknowledge is a concern as are all potential adverse reactions. The difference between us is you not I make claims with no evidence.

Now using the word granulation is absurd. Its an engineering term or a term used in connection with body tissue. You throw it out to mean what exactly? Read back your sentence. You wrote if I don't "granulate" what I say I can't prove what I say. That makes no sense. The way I establish my premises is to provide you the data or info I have to show you there are NO statistics on deaths from the vaccine but there are statistics on the adverse reactions to the vaccine and those reactions are recorded and a very small percentage of all people who have taken the vaccine to such an extent that in terms of risk management the degree in which they represent a risk of adverse effect is so small as to not justify not using the vaccine and more to the point the adverse effects are being monitored, studied and being treated the few times they do arise.

You choose to ignore the statistics I provided you that prove no one is dying and the adverse side effects are not in large numbers. You choose to ignore those statistics. So saying I did not granulate them is ridiculous. Stop it. Its silly. The fact that you ignore statistics and now use the excuse you ignore them because they are not granulated is past absurd.

Not only in each and every response do you continue to misquote me and raise responses to issues I never argued, over and over, but you try unilaterally cut off info by name calling with terms such as legal fallacy and granulating because you will not address the actual issues I bring to your consideration. That is clear.

So instead of posing with name calling, just say you have no response or better still don't respond. Telling me I do not granulate to your satisfaction doesn't establish your position or make it valid.

 

yep, Trump was the fool - the history books will not be kind to Dirty Donald

 

blame for how Trump handled Covid

 

What did he do wrong? He followed all of Fauci’s recommendations.

 

They will not be kind to those who shutdown the economy.

 

The statistics you referenced are meaningless.

 

yes, the Trump shutdown guidelines hurt the economy

 

So you agree that the lockdowns should never have happened. Politicians panicked in reaction to the bad recommendations from Fauci and the rest of the Covid alarmists. No one listened to those who ultimately wrote the Great Barrington Declaration.

 

Yes you already said they lack granulation. Move on AFM. Go find some granulated statistics.

 

I went in circles and just stopped in another forum. The writer of this article was taken to task for objecting to the policies the scientific community adopted as, they don't create policy. Elected officials do. I pointed out that elected officials can enforce a policy, but does anyone think Trump made up Covid policy himself, or do so with the instruction of others, who were actually creating the policy to then be enforced by Trump et. al. I then had a number of people chime in regarding why it is stupid to think Trump thought all of this on his own and why they need the "experts" to create policy. Man am I ever dumb!!! So, I'm thinking, aren't they just refuting the initial critique saying to ignore this article as the Scientific community doesn't make policy?

ITMT: Untrue in one thing, untrue in all. If a ruling elite can lie about Covid, and the Biden laptop, and white supremacy, and election fraud... should we believe them in anything? Climate "crisis!!!!"? Soft on crime policies are a good thing? Boys can become girls? Anything?

 

The arguments and data analysis and medical autopsy reports in the book I have referenced are based on age group and medical history granulation. Lumping all together is meaningless. Nothing useful can be learned.

 

Authoritarians, er, neofascists at the CDC/NIH/WHO never admit they're wrong and/or never relinquish power over the people w/o a fight.

 

I do, I said that even back when Trump was issuing the shutdown and reopen guidelines

 

So you are blaming Trump, and only Trump, for entire lockdown policy?

 

Trump was the one that released the guidelines, that is why I said, he should have left the task force to do their thing, let them release the guidelines

 

Who wrote the guidelines? Were the Governors of every state forced to comply under threat of prosecution?

 

was Trump forced to release them, to call them the "The President's CoronaVirus Guidelines for America"

yes, the Governors should have ignored the President's guidelines

 

Why didn’t the brainiac progressive governors ignore the guidelines? I thought they were all mental giants.

 

in the past people Trusted the Presidential guidelines, but with Trump, they should have known better

 

So you are arguing that the progressive governors of California, New York, New Jersey, etc…. who publicly called Trump an idiot, a liar, mentally ill, white supremacist, racist, etc. and who believed that Trump recommended that people drink bleach to cure Covid blindly followed the Trump guidelines (as you characterize them) for months without question? Wow.

 

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That's what is known as political "check-mate"......