Japan´s PM: "We will stand up to China, the world wants it", Can Japan stop Red Hans

the war ended long before we surrendered. life was very hard for people. it may not be much for you but to be able to sleep for one night without fear is something you will be happy about...

 

Well you are right that sooner or later they would have had to surrender. But again how many lives would invading the Japenese homeland had cost on all sides? Have you checked out how many lives the russians had to pay to reach Berlin? The US was faced with a choice of lets invade and lose probably about a million of our men, or lets droop 2 bombs and not lose a single soldier. The atomic bomb saved millions of Japanese and US lives. Plus you would run the risk of the Russians and Chinese invading Japan at the same time. You would have had a split Japan just like Korea. It was all in the best interest of both Japan and the US and it worked.

 

This was actually true. But you hadnt given up the fight yet, well at least the militarist authority hadnt given up yet. I have read many reports that even after the atomic bombs were dropped there was a military coup that tried to take control to prevent japanese surrender but failed.

 

As long as Uncle Sam is lying on top in Okinawa, Japan could never say "bye bye USA". Ancilla could never shake off her master who sticks to her like a leech.

ancilla
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/ancilla

 

I admitted just the opposite. I've actually said so explicitly. I view all democracies as allies. Even the ones that hate us.

 

is not just some island, its a part of a much bigger game and if hans are gonna get what they want at least 4 countries will starve to death

http://www.forbes.com/sites/gordonc...he-biggest-territory-grab-since-world-war-ii/

 

we feared you murder all our children and women...thats not just a story. it was a widespread fear. we believed we have no future and no hope left. In Japan we love order...and so much was in chaos and disturbed. we believed...its final days of our race...

 

We do understand that. That is why the US values Defense so much, and why we spend so much money on it.

 

Does you history books talk about the horrendous effects of radiation sickness in japanese people following the drop? The immense terror people felt? Cancer? Mutations?

 

Japan precipitated that conflict by attacking us. Any act is justifiable in self defense. We did not attack Japan in a war of conquest.

 

LOL, thats funny , what do you think about this story? http://www.forbes.com/sites/gordonc...he-biggest-territory-grab-since-world-war-ii/

 

you just have been starving japan for years , i think we spend too much time in ww2

 

Their color does not matter to us. We have brought white nations to their knees before as well.

Which is exactly as it should be. The US does not want puppets. If we did there'd be another dictator running Iraq right now, and probably japan and Germany as well.

The proliferation of democracy serves our long term defense goals. - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democratic_peace_theory

 

too be honest it had no big effects. radiation levels dropped to normal levels within minutes. only people who were direct at the detonation got radiation...

 

They certainly do, every American school child knows all about it. No big revelation there.

 

Well, the mutated dna was transmitted to their children and so on, but of course nowadays the effects should be almost gone. I was trying to demonstrate how careless was for americans to drop those nuclear weapons over two cities. If they nuked some isolated location hosting war equipment then it would be different, but dropping them directly over two cities is self explaining about how americans cared for civilian casualties... 0

 

Which proved to be completely wrong, like most of your thoughts.

 

Maybe so but look at what actually happened when you did give up. Now your one of the leading nations in the world and well protected. Could you have imagined what had happened if the US had just sat back and let the Soviets or Chinese invade you? The Soviets and Chinese dont treat people so well.

 

you forgot about a racial element , would they drop N. bomb on white Germans, ?

 

Japan's defence minister says China's intrusions in East China Sea islands could lead to "emergency situation".

 

Actually yes. I remember when I was 9 having to read a story about a young girl who had gotten luekemia from exposure to the Hiroshima blast. We are well aware of it. We are also well aware of what would have happened if we hadnt done so.

 

they had no children...the victims were treated like outcasts in japan...and till today. thats a not so good part of our history. most stayed alone till end of their lifes.

 

Of course we would have. How would that have been any different from Dresden?

The only reason the US did not nuke Germany is because it was not necessary. The Japanese made it clear there was no way they would surrender unless faced with complete annihilation. Nukes were the only thing that could have really provided them an incentive to surrender unconditionally IMO.

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In detail. This is something every American school child has been exposed to. The media (all forms) has covered it in detail as well. It is very common knowledge here.

 

Yes because if we had dropped bombs in lakes and rivers where it wouldnt hurt anyone it would totally convince our enemies to give up.... In fact why didnt we just tell the Japanese we had a doomsday device and make a scary picture of one to send them and wait for them to roll over. Shoot we could have ended the war on Dec. 8 1941 if we had done that.

 

If the effects were so trivial, why did it precipitate the unconditional surrender? Why surrender if nukes were no big deal?

Conventional bombing did not do it, but nukes did. What was it about the nukes that was different?