Jesus was the first Republican:

probably because the commies were totalitarian while the Nazis were authortarian

 

native americans??????????????????

 

so??? they were half uncivilized Romans then and if you wanted to be Christian you often had to fight Muslims. Next?

 

so?????????? many in America were supportive until they realized. And?????

 

Yes, it seems you have big difficulties with history. Indenpendance was declared in 1777 and K Marx was born in 1818. Benjamin Franklin died in 1790, Georges Washington in 1799. Karl Marx wrotte the communist manifesto in 1848. You have HUGE troubles with History.

In 1777, the only republic who ever existed was the cromwell dictatorship.

Okay, you definitevely never opened a book in your life apart bible. Cathare genocide was around 1200, roman empire fall around 476.

 

Our founders had no problem with history. They made liberalism illegal here because they knew Hitler Stalin and Mao were coming. Do you understand?

 

so??? Did you think Roman barbarians became perfect christians over night??

 

Are you feeling alright?
So. . .our founders could read the future?

Sorry, but if that was true, they would have made sure that a clown like Trump would NEVER be able to set foot in the White House!

 

YOU have a problem with history. Stop identifing yourself as Georges Washington or Benjamin Franklin because you aren't none of them. By the way neither Washington or Franklin had problems with history, but I doubt they had magical powers to see the future.

The roman empire was converted to christianism in 300 by the emperor Constantin. Roman barbarian were one of the most advanced civilization in the world.

 

ah but you are wrong. They knew the past would be the future unless they interceded to make liberalism illegal

 

and your point is??????????????

 

actually they studied history to see the future. If you don't study it you relive it. Do you understand??

 

you lost the debate so are trying to change the subject to Trump? Sad!!

 

"Liberalism" didn't exist in 1777. You're aware before liberalism took it's nowoday sense, the world "liberalism" come from "liberty". At the origin before the sense of the word was twisted, a liberal was advocating for more liberties for the individuals. At the original sense of the word, the founders were liberals, by the way liberalism degenerated since that epoch and nowodays liberalism is not even close to the "original" liberalism.
In 1777, the only republic who existed was the cromwell one in the UK. Cromwell republic quickly ended up as a tiranny. Founders were obsessed to prevent the republic of the USA to become back the Cromwell tiranny.

Romans were christian for half of their history before they disappeared. The madness of christianism who prefer a faithfull ignorance to the knowledge is greatly responsible for it, but the christian empire was destroyed by christian barbarian like the goth or the vandales who were converted to christianism too.

That's not how history books work.
Founders had a limited knowledge about democracy and republic because it never existed before them. They knew only two of that who were total failure who were the cromwell dictatorship and the french revolution. Both were only bloodbath.

In the same time, Swiss build a confederation who became what is today the most democratic country in the world with other basis.

 

totally wrong of course !! if true our Founders would not have been able to make it illegal in America with a Constitution that enshrined tiny tiny govt. Make sense now?

 

And Yay I say unto you...the capital gains tax shall not exceed 10% and lo the death tax is an abomination unto god.

 

Okay, I misexprimate myself. I guess you call by liberalism an extremly centralized state. By the way, that already existed at that epoch but it was called another way.

What I'm trying to tell you is that when the founders were living, they were no other "democracy" in the world or they failed in a pathetic way.

 

no idea what your subject is let what your point is. Do you think your ability to recite events makes up for you lack of understanding?

 

And Jesus spoke to his disciples and said, " For I am the fruit of life....and fully auto guns are a divine gift from the Father."

 

everything existed 1000 times over before the founders looked to history!!

Thomas Jefferson:
My reading of history convinces me that bad government results from too much government.

 

And Jesus said," The meek shall inherit the earth....except the gays and the blacks."

 

And Jesus said, "If someone strikes you turn the other cheek....and then drop a MOAB on his village."

 

who said there was another democracy in the world????

 

And Jesus gathered the people before him and said, "He who believes in me shall live for eternity....as long as he has his own private health insurance."

 

You say
"so??? Did you think Roman barbarians became perfect christians over night??"

Roman were christian for a long time when the roman empire falled. You're talking about "romans" during crusade in 1200... You're blaming the romans for something when they were disappeared for centuries (if you don't consider Constantinople BTW). You say that roman were horrible people, but I say you that christian aren't better and that christian were/are not much less bloodthirsty than muslims.

Industrial revolutions existed 1000 times over before the founders looked to history ? The rise and the fall of democracies existed 1000 times over before the founder looked to history ? Internet appeared 1000 times before the founders looked to history ?

No.

That's my point, when the founders lived, they couldn't looked at the experience of other democracies because they didn't existed. When the founders lived, they were only kings, emperors and so authocratic people. The few republic who existed were rather oligarchy than real republic (Venise republic).

Jefferson lived at an epoch were History science was much less developped. They didn't had access to nowodays archeology or even the text of the ancient egyptian. Even the knowldege about Rome and Athene was much less developped.