Jews have no rights on the Temple Mount

You can like it all. The point is, the Jesus of Islam is not the same as the Jesus of the Bible. It matters not what you like.

Quantrill

 

The response of defeat.

Quantrill

 

The only problem with that is, your 'respect' is of no value. Sorry about that.

Quantrill

 

Oh yes, such a good person you are. It just gives one warm fuzzies. But, just like with Margot, your respect is of no value. Not needed or wanted.

All your respect is for is to make 'you' look good. And it doesn't.

Quantrill

 

"Blood sacrifice"?

Jesus wasn't some dumb animal that got his throat slit to appease some vengeful pagan deity, and Christians aren't taught that they can behave in an immoral manner with impunity.

Muhammad had his reasons for denying that Jesus died on the cross and was resurrected three days later, and it had nothing to do with a disbelief in blood sacrifice and everything to do with delegitimizing the Christian faith he sought to supersede with his own ideology (Islam).

 

Yes.. Muslims never accepted that ANY innocent blood could expiate sin..

And they believed Jesus to be singlular among mankind and without sin.

Muslims believe that Christianity is an earlier revelation.

 

This is no different than what Israel was doing .. again .. read your Bible.

The point is what Muslims worship now and what is accepted doctrine now.

The God of Islam is the God of Abraham.

"I am" - From when Moses goes up the mountain and see's the burning bush.

Moses was an Egyptian and one of the Egyptian beliefs at the time was that if you knew the name of a God you had power over it.

This was the reason for the question Moses puts to God .. "God how shall I call you"

God is not so silly to fall for this ploy and answers Moses "I am that I am"

In other words .. "screw off" "I am" is not Gods name.

Jacob also asks God his name after wrestling with God. Gods response ?

"I can not tell you that"

God has never given us his name.

 

You know what; nobody cares. Tanking church attendances testify to that. If I had the power to remove all mythology, religion and assorted supernatural pretext for conflict, I'd do it in an instant and restore some rationality to the planet.

Religious beliefs are a cancerous catalyst for conflict. Sadly, like cancer, there is currently no cure for them.

 

Now - now , calmed down , let's not throw the baby out with the bath water (so to speak) Perhaps for those of a passive nature, the myths might help them to cope with their existence .

On the other hand , religions have inspired the arts . Think of all those beautifull paintaings - Michael Angelo etc., Sculptures n our galleries , , - breathtaking Cathedrals - Mosques, etc Buddhist Temples , etc., . divine music - I'd rather listen to any Church Choir especially Welsh , than RAP anyday .

Like everything else , religions are'nt all bad - if taken in moderation - and like alcoholics , some arent aware of moderation and when they've had enough do they ?

Meanwhile , I'll just spend 30 minutes a week + enjoy listening to BBC Songs of Praise + visit as many Cathedrals Mosques Temples and admired its architectures .

 

This is in Israel... I would have thought the authorities would be more Jewish friendly.

 

Its forbbiden to enter at the risk of stepping into the"holy of holyness" site which no one knows where it supposed to be, an offense that means DEATH,
until we find a red cow and spread its ash (biblical animal suppused to be extinct)

....and a red dragon scale

 

And yet people wonder why I consider religion to be the sole preserve of lunatics...

 

The Islamic following is perverted by centuries of added `literature on the ways of their prophet.

The truest muslims need to fight against stupidity like this. Let any man who believes in Allah, Yahweh, or Jehovah, Jah pray the way he chooses for all except the jew accept the teachings of the prophet Isa. And Isa welcomed all to pray and he did not instruct anyone how to pray. Muhammad wrote the Koran and in it are universal truths and knowledge of a battle faught by the most patriotic man in history. The right to believe what he wanted was what he faught for and we shall all have it by true Islamic Law.

Much like the Catholic Church justified its forceful conversions and faith limiting texts. Anyone who believes in Allah truly will accept any man who believes in a fight against evil and a battle to do good things. Islam is not only a religion of peace it is a religion that guides one through a war for the basic human right of belief.

 

I agree for the most part with your claims.

Christianity, Islam, Hindi have indeed been the cause of much conflict, persecution, hate, war, genocide.

Bhuddism seems to have avoided this.

I think there is a root cause, certainly in the case of Christianity and Islam, as to why these religions can be so harmfull.

1) A leader, institution, or book claims to "speak for God". Interpretations by the leader or of the book are also taken as "Gods word"

You can not challenge or debate the leader (Pope or Imam for example) because who can challenge God ? Rational debate is stifled.


2) These institutions start to force their beliefs on the public at large by gaining power through political process or political activism, creating or changing laws in favor of those religious beliefs.

3) Religious doctrine is put forth in "Black vs White, Good vs Evil, God vs Devil terms.

Folks that question or challenge these beliefs are demonized, persecuted, or killed because the "must be against God, Evil, or in league with the Devil"

4) The religion is reinforced through Fear of eternal punishment in the afterlife should you not agree with religious doctrine. This is a powerfull control mechanism which keeps folks from questioning as doing so might imperil their mortal soul.


The destruction of liberty and philosophy, persecution, and outright horrors that have been justified, "in the name of God, are common, numerous and still with us to this day.

I think it is important as a society to talk about and understand the root causes of religious control and persecution because as more people gain knowledge of these destructive doctrines they will no longer be as acceptable as they are currently.

 

Interesting......

 

You can see the previous "root cause" elements in Quantrils thinking.

He wants to demonize Muslims and make them evil by claiming they worship a different God than he does.

This is why he can not accept the fact that Islam worships the same God as he does.

 

It's all about religious, it's so funny! Its just 14 hectare, the only thing make it attracts so much attention is the temple. I'd say it's a place where cultures, religious clashes. And religious, that's why these all about! But why? I doubt that there is a religion that cannot tolerate others.

 

I am a Christian and I visited Haram al Sharif several times before 1967.. Sometimes I had a Muslim driver and Christian guide.. sometimes I had a Christian driver and a Muslim guide. It really isn't about religion.

Rabbinic Judaism has flourished since 70 AD..

 

The sad fact is the Queertroll is not alone, there's a fair number of unchristian hate filled nutters like him around.
I doubt whether he actually worships or pray to any god . There's nothing in his posts to indicate that he's a practicing Christian following Christ's teachings . He just like to spew his bile, Nowadays its non-PC to do at Jews + Blacks , so he's truned on Muslims.



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Even denominations within the same religion are in constant conflict . Its genetic.


However , Buddhists come fairly close to tolerating others , dont you think so ?

 

Oh! you lucky bunny . I too was in J'lem before 67 with an old Uncle - cant remember why we didnt visit the mount . perhaps due to visitors times, or such. . I know he had a tight schedule - everything was always rush - rush with him. C'est la vie.

 

Oh! you lucky bunny . I too was in J'lem before 67 with an old Uncle - cant remember why we didnt visit the mount . perhaps due to visitors times, or such. . I know he had a tight schedule - everything was always rush - rush with him. C'est la vie.

 

Our Protestant Fellowship offered a trip too the Holy Lands every April.. two weeks.. Every body went ..

Check this out... its pretty exciting and the sponsor is Prince Salman.

http://history.sf-fandom.com/2011/08/25/closing-in-on-the-archaeological-garden-of-eden/

 

Oh yeah, what a christian you are. Sure.

Quantrill

 

Margot . I swear the guy with the beard is NOT ME. and he's carrying a very suspiscious looking bag .









cheers.


Many thanks for the Sf-Fandom's link . very interesting



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