Jews have no rights on the Temple Mount

I'm not surprised you'd deny it's you-that's a terrible shirt!

 

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LOL

 

That's not true.

If a Muslim sacrifices himself in the line of Jihad, that individual is said to be guaranteed admission into Paradise and forgiven of his sins.

What Muslims don't accept is the central feature/narrative of the Christian faith - the crucifixion, death and resurrection of Jesus that fulfilled the messianic prophecies of the Old Testament (Qur'an IX:157).

 

You mean MARTYRED IN DEFENDING THE FAITH?

That's NOT a blood sacrifice..

The Koran says ... God does not eat, neither is he fed.

 

Of course it is - it's the very definition and embodiment of blood sacrifice, and a Muslim is guaranteed admission into Paradise and forgiven of their sins for this blood sacrifice.

 

Blood sacrifice is the killing of animals upon an Altar.. not dying in battle.

See AZAZEL: the scapegoat.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Azazel

 

Cor-blimey , you certainly know your stuff, don't you ?

 

LOLOL.

Yes I guess I do at that.

When Christians were fed to the lions they were martyred, but NOT blood sacrifices ...

 

Actually they were both. The Roman faith at that time did do sacrifice of human being and the circus was one way to honor Mars the god of war by having slaves sacrificed there... So they were both martyr for the cause of christianity and blood sacrifice to a pagan god...

 

Well..yeah.. Blood sacrifice to a PAGAN God not to the God of Abraham.

That's how its seen in Islam.

 

That's what I said.
Now that you agree with me on this point, I'm left to wonder why you equated Jesus' death on the cross to "blood sacrifice"?

Regardless, it's obvious that Muslims do believe that sacrificing their lives in the course of Jihad gains them admission to Paradise and the expiation of sin.

If only that were the case. I suspect you're well aware that a jihadist doesn't have to die on the field of battle to obtain admission to Paradise and the expiation of their sins?

 

The notion of blood sacrifice is about shifting sin to the innocent and making the scapegoat liable.. That's a pagan concept.

See Azazel in the Bible.

A Shaheed is anyone who has suffered for their faith.. Shaheed means witness..

So anyone who has lost family or friends, a mosque, school, farm or livelihood is shaheed...

You won't be able to understand Islam.. unless you try to step back from Western concepts for a little while.

 

I'm aware of what "blood sacrifice" is, which is why I rolled my eyes when you mentioned Jesus in the same breath.

I already know what "shaheed" means, and the relevant term here applies to people who are "martyred in Allah's Cause", to use Muhammad's own words.

You won't be able to understand Christianity unless you try and step back from Islamic concepts for a little while, Margot. Furthermore, I'm not the one who falsely claimed that Muslims don't believe that blood of martyrs doesn't expiate sin. They just don't believe that the blood Jesus shed on the cross expiates sin (of course, Muslims deny that Jesus shed blood on his cross).

 

Did the 'temple' even exist when Leviticus was written?

Answer the question.

 

Shaheed refers to anyone who loses a friend or family member, a home, land or olive groves because they are Muslim.

 

of course it would. So convenient.

 

The word shaheed means witness ...

 

Really?

Noun1.shaheed - Arabic term for holy martyrs; applied by Palestinians to suicide bombers

Shahid is an Arabic word meaning "witness". It is a religious term in Islam, literally meaning "witness", but practically means a "martyr. ...

 

Shahid (Arabic: شَهيد ‎ šahīd, plural: شُهَداء šuhadāʾ, also anglicized as shaheed) is an Arabic word meaning "witness". It is a religious term in Islam, meaning both "witness" and "martyr." While a martyr may die as a consequence of fighting, a shahid is a "witness" because he gives his life out of passion for truth. The shahid exchanges himself for the divine and thereby becomes divine.[1]

It is used as an honorific for Muslims who have laid down their life fulfilling a religious commandment, or have died fighting defending their country or protecting their family.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shahid

 

"a shahid is a "witness" because he gives his life out of passion for truth."

That's correct, the ancient meaning of the word is "witness", yet in real life according to all dictionaries and links including yours it for all intents and purposes means "martyr".

 

Swastika was a universally recognized symbol for good luck.

http://history1900s.about.com/cs/swastika/a/swastikahistory.htm

 

Exactly. And Shahid was "witness". And jihad was "struggle". but only very dishonest individuals claim today that these words still mean what they used to mean. Today swastika is the universally recognized Nazi symbol, jihad means military struggle, shahid is synonymous with "martyr".

 

To the vast majority of Muslims in the world the words mean what they always meant.

 

Right...and all the dictionaries and websites specifying that for all intents and purposes Shahid = martyr are wrong.

 

They are NOVELTY words in the West.. like Wahhabi or Madrassa..

Every Tom, Dick and self proscribed TV expert is responsible for that.... but it doesn't change the way the majority of Muslims understand their own language.