John Bolton Reveals why Putin didn't invade Russia during Trump.

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  1. Starcastle

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    Who cares?

     
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    Dubya did nothing when Putin invaded Georgia. Why are you not calling him a traitor?

    I wonder about Obama close talking with the Russian president. He said wait until after the election I'll give you what you want. Was he asking Putin to help him in the 2012 election? Sure sounds like it.



    Put that together with this and Obama needs to be in Leavenworth. So arrest him now?

     
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    Should I paste that video again? Romney calls Putin our biggest threat and Obama fighting him every step of the way.

    So where are you tough talking libos on that? Mask on ear, little noodle arms? Respond please.
    Talking big on Russia and here is your favorite president colluding with and defending Russia!




     
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    Because I don't think he was a traitor. He was being a pol.
    Obama was being a pol, too.

    Obama failed to respond to the Russian action in Georgia six months later, but worst of all he failed to respond to Putin's annexation of Crimea.

    Biden is working to get the Europeans to go along with ending the purchase of Russian oil. Opening up North American oil and gas production—here and Canada—might be required.
     
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    Says the poster who can't even attempt to dispute the information

    Trump killed over 200 Russians in Syria
    Trump ousted over 60 Russian Oligarchs
    Trump was the first president to give lethal aid to Ukraine to kill Russians
    Trump sanctioned the NS2 pipeline stopping Putin from having a gas monopoly in Europe
    Trump imposed more sanctions that any other president in history against Russia

    Dementia Joe lifts sanctions against Putin in June allowing Putin to gain a monopoly of all EU utilities
    Biden turns around and stops all lethal aid to Ukraine in May.
    Then idiot Biden makes a public announcement that no US troops will go to Ukraine. When he was never even asked that question.

    Next excuse coming in 3-----2-----1-----
     
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    I agreed with Romney.
    I'm not a liberal.
    What on earth are you going on about?
    What's your plan? I said what I think should be done.
     
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    Right now the EU gets about 35% of its gas from Russia. If they finish the pipeline all of the Eu will become more and more dependent on Russia's cheaper gas. Why would they continue to spend more money somewhere else. They won't. Its a certainty. And if Putin decides he doesn't like your sanctions, and cuts off your gas, you can't just flip a switch and have gas supplies in the morning. It will take months to resupply, get delivery and distribute.

    He already did it in 2006 when Russia cut off all gas supplies to Ukraine for 4 days over a money dispute. Putin will have a monopoly on all EU gas utilities if he is allowed to do it.
    Would you feel comfortable if the US gave Russia a monopoly on all of our gas or oil? You don't see the danger it giving ANYONE a monopoly on energy?
     
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    Rolltide vs libos on Russia.
    So you agree that Obama should be in cuffs?
     
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    I don't care if you double those numbers. Triple or quadruple them. They make absolutely no difference to me.

    You're a Trump supporter while I'm no fan of Biden. I'm not going to defend the only Democrat I've ever supported. I don't support Republicans who want to push pregnant women around, so I wouldn't under any circumstances have supported any Republican since 1980.

    Trump did not effectively counter Putin in the Ukraine—that's what I think is important. He was too busy trying to play head games with the Europeans with his "NATO is obsolete" BS. Trump treated politics like it's a business deal. It isn't. I doubt you understand the difference.
    I care what Joe is doing now.

    He should be pushing NATO to put conventional forces in a position to overwhelm Russia if it attacks a NATO member. NATO has five times as many fighter planes and four times the number of combat troops. Of course, Putin can start a nuclear war and we can't do much about that. Here's the deal for Putin—get out of the Ukraine and that includes the Crimea. No? Trade with yourself.
    Bet you don't respond with what you would do.

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    I don't even think Trump should be jailed.
     
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    I wouldn't trust John Bolton he just wants to go to war he's really instrumental in invading Iraq with the weapons of mass destruction nonsense he did his best to try and get us into Cuba over the same thing and now surprised he's at the same game.

    He just didn't like Trump because he wouldn't let him kill people.

    Bolton is human slime.
     
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    Tucker Carlson ran a very interesting clip of Lindsay Graham while visiting Ukraine in 2017. Again 2017.

    Graham said that we are there ready to fight with Ukraine against Russia. Really? Ukraine who is not a military ally. He was saying this in 2017!

    Lindsay Graham 2017:

    I tried to find the clip and did not see it on youtube. Watch at the 5 minute mark.



    Tucker ran the clip and others to suggest how neocons from both parties have wanted this to happen all along.

    The Russian collusion lie did not help as it forced members of both parties to talk tough against Putin and Russia so nobody could accuse them of being pro Putin.
     
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    Think about sending the hyena to Europe to try to diplomatically stop Putin from invading Ukraine.

    The last person you would ever send to stop a war is Kamala Harris who is totally ineffectual and has no expertise on the issues. But that was not enough. While there in Europe she talked about Ukraine joining NATO the exact thing that Putin does not want.

    Biden wanted this to happen!

    Then you look at the typical suppression of speech and media. How fake bullcrap media stories flood the internet to make you emotional about this war. You know the fake ace fighter pilot who supposedly shot down 6 Russian planes in one day? Even video game footage was used in some of these fake stories wtf!



    Biden and neocons wanted this war. The media is trying to shape opinion for Ukraine and against Russia. Nobody it seems is allowed to talk about de-escalation and eventual peace.

    So knowing all of this why in the hell would any sane person ever listen to John Bolton?
     
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    This is Jack Keane a retired 4 star general. He has been a commentator on foxnews since 9/11. Never met a war he did not like.



    Jack sits on the board of directors of a company called AM General. In fact he is the chairman! They make Humvees. Just inked a $373M deal with the pentagon to supply Humvees to Ukraine and the middle east. Surprise surprise.

    https://www.defenseworld.net/news/1..._for_Ukraine__Mid_East_Countries#.YicNZ3PMI2w

    Conflict of interest?

    Remember it was a whistle blower in 2004 who alerted the news media of design flaws in Humvees that were getting our men killed in Iraq. Remember this jewel when Rumsfeld was asked about this?



    War is very profitable for a lot of people. We better listen to John Bolton!
     
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    His politics do not invalidate his observations about Trump, and he was, as he put it, 'in the room where it happened'.

    Therefore, your premise, predicated on his politics, is not a counter argument to the OP.
     
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    There is a BBQ place in Little rock Arkansas that calls their hot BBQ sauce "shut up juice". Apparently somebody asked for the spicy sauce and complained it was not hot enough so the owner came up with this sauce that had habanero extract that was hot as hell.

    The shut up juice on this Russia issue are these 2 videos. Barry Obama was very obviously and clearly Putin's biatch! So what dirt did Putin have on the skinny half black magic man?



     
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    Note the word "observations". He is a pos neocon and his opinion, his "observation" somehow matters to you only because it is not flattering to Trump.

    He's not bringing truth he never is, he is bringing his own distorted opinion. Lies.
     
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    More shut up juice...



    Go to 5:50. Why would that idiot Kamala talk about Ukraine joining NATO with Russia threatening to invade? Because they knew it increased the chances of him invading! The Biden administration wanted this!

    Kamala's quote.

     
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    Well, I see no virtue whatsoever in flattering Trump, so your comment is of no consequence or significance.
    You say that only because he is not flattering to Trump. If he were, you'd love him.

    The problem is, there isn't a human being with any capacity for wisdom would find words flattering to Trump, for he is a man who does not deserve praise of any kind.

    I stand by my previous comment.
     
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    I'm not sure I have seen a group obsession with anything stronger than the left's obsession with Trump. Great fun.
     
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    well Trump not letting him kill people might be the motivation for his observation.
    He's just a brat throwing a fit because Trump wouldn't let him kill people.
     
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    What indication do you have that I would love Bolton? Go back and read my posts. This has never been only about defending Trump. I hate neocons.
     
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    His bias doesn't invalidate his observations?
    Is that what you think about Trump and every other poster you address on this site as well or do you just use such nonsense when its convenient?
     
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    The proof that Bolton is a liar is when he says Trump thought Finland was not a separate country but part of Russia. Yeah right. :no:

    This is an infantile dishonest attack to run interference for Joe Biden. Bolton loves Biden because he gave Putin permission to attack Ukraine.

    Another elite butt-hole at the service of senile Joe. Disgusting.
     
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