Just 14 pro-Zionism countries remaining

Being confronted with Zionism's evidently humiliating unpopularity appears to have quite shaken the forum's New Klansmen. 14 and counting downward.

 

Has nothing to do with zionism...sorry.

Israel is in no danger of being dismantled.

Only a handful of those countries voting yea,actually advocate such a silly notion as a world without Israel,which.. make no mistake... is what you advocate....unless of course you have more information regarding the actual opinions of these coutries.

You projecting your racist agenda on others doesnt actually allow you to speak for them. The attempts to make this vote a referendum on zionism...ie the existence of a Jewish Israel..are pretty tenuous.

 

It was the Zionists themselves who called it a vote on Israel's legitimacy - whilst they were trying to prevent it. The Palestinians denied that and stated that it was a vote on Palestine's legitimacy. Which would you rather it was, ' Relevant ' ? Seems like an ass-kicking for Zionism either way.

 

Why has your boy kept the prison at Guantanamo open?? Why does Barry allow the torture and humiliation of the islamo dogs held there continue???

Is Barry/obama only a muslim when it advances his progressive agenda?

 

You've talked nothing but garbage since you entered the thread.

 

Iceland has bigger things to worry about than their relations with the U.S.

They have to rebuild their economy from the ground up after a disastrous banking scheme.

 

Out of interest...just where do you see Israel ending up?

I'm an advocate of the 2 state option....but that will only work if Palestine gets a state with enough land and resources to allow them to also get a life.

As far as I can see, Israel is presently trying to herd the Palestinians into ghettos or bantustans, in which they will have difficulty turning round, far less swing a cat.

Do you really think that that will bring peace any time soon......or ever?

Seems to me, if left to Israel, or at least to the Revisionist Zionists who have made up most of the Governments since Israel's inception, to do sensible, the two state option will soon not be an option at all........and what will Israel do then?

The Palestinians can see this, as can many other countries....and they appear to have decided that international recognition at some levels may be a way to both give the Palestinians a bigger voice in International circles so they can't be so easily ignored, and illustrate to Israel and the USA that the rest of the world is getting sick fed up of their childish attitudes....and the trouble it is bringing to the rest of the world.

Given that there is Buckley's chance that Israel will get away with continuing as they are doing, with US backing, in oppressing the Palestinians.....and given that there is Buckley's chance that they will get away, even with US backing, with wholesale slaughter of the Palestinians....and given that the Palestinians are going nowhere, just as Israel is not......Israel appears to be painting itself into a one state with no Jewish majority corner.

Don't you think it is about time that Israel started taking a fair chunk of the blame for the current situation, and doing something more constructive about it than stamping its feet and putting on a petted lip.

 

Israel has the only vote that matters - the USA. Who does Palestine have? China, India, Russia, Brazil? All those nations are deep in debt and are in decline unlike the USA who will be #1 forever!

 

I see Israel thriving exactly where they are for a long time to come.

Hamas wants no permanent 2 state solution...theyve said it again and again. The Palestinians elected Hamas to a seat of power. So now you have another 'official' road block to peace.

Israel has indicated a willingness to recognize a Palestinian state....such recognition has not been reciprocated.

Israel makes nothing easy for the Palestinians,to be sure, but why should they? Eternal resistance has that effect on the benefit of the doubt.

 

Drugs?

China only cares about oil and never really did anything harsh against Israel.
India is hugely pro Israel due to a common enemy ( global genocidal Jihad)
Russia? Papertiger, their mood will swing once they receive more Jihad attacks on their soil.
Brazil? Hardly infuelence yet.

 

I could not agree more. Many of the nations who voted yes are either insignificant or secretly pro-zionist and anti-palestinian. The ones mentioned in particular.

 

Were not all sheep that blindly follow the "intelligentsia" like you.

 

Believe it, your subscription is neither required nor desired.

 

I thought you said all the intelligensia?
So not everyone agrees after all.

 

Nah ! of course not , however many of you blindly follow Fox News (as Abu or Moon previously said )





tatty byeeee.

 

You know if you actually watched Fox news instead of one of them Liberal networks you'd be the wiser for doing so. Because only Fox news reports all of the news even if it makes Obama or the liberals look bad which those other networks ignore.

 

As usual all Muslim countries voted for it.

while 14 great nations voted against it. Quality over quantity.

 

You are correct. 14 quality nations of the highest order voted against it... and Canada.

 

Why did these nations unsuccessfully vote against hated Semites who enjoy Education, Science and Culture? Is it because Germany has a history of not being Semite-friendly?

 

Er.... that would be 15. Are you sure you're up to this level of debate ?

 

Only if you count Canada as a nation.

 

If Canada is not a nation, then there are only 12 nations left who are still being played with the Guilt Complex card of nuclear Israel being "threatened". I like how Israel is now expediating its illegal settlement expansions, since knows that it can still play 13 nations with the Holocaust card:

EU rügt Israels Pläne für neuen Siedlungsbau
http://www.welt.de/politik/ausland/...t-Israels-Plaene-fuer-neuen-Siedlungsbau.html

It must suck to be one of many American politicians these days, knowing that one's good intentions are being misplayed for the wrong reasons.

 

Just made myself a lorra, lorra money from the bet I made with myself about your response!

Define " Israel thriving exactly where they are for a long time to come.", pretty please....and kindly explain how you can see they are going to manage that.

I bet myself you'd do the "let's blame Hamas", which, after all, is only where it is and doing what it is doing because of the actions of Israel. I am no keener on Hamas than you are...but Hamas is what Israel has spawned.....and Israel has nobody to blame but itself for its existence.

I also bet myself you would completely ignore every recognition made by every Palestinian government of the State of Israel....after all, was it not a prerequisite for all peace negotiations from Oslo onwards at least......or do you assume that what you don't want to believe never happened?

And I did kinda think that it was a fair to middling bet that you would ignore the fact that technically, there is no "Government" in the Occupied Territories, because the one elected.....the one Israel is using to pout over and daemonise as an excuse to do nothing but oppress the Palestinians...haven't been a democratically elected government of the Palestinian people for some time.......and the Israeli preferred option, which appears to have decided to do Palestinian and not Israeli arse-licking, is not an elected Government either...but has been accepted, to the exclusion of Hamas, long enough to have become a de facto PA Government.

Does hoist by its own petard mean anything to pro-Zionists? No? I thought not!

And I bet myself that you would regurgitate, yet again, the Hasbara line..........and not actually discuss any of the points I made in my post.

Pity I was just betting with myself......I could have made a fortune!

 

Well, sodding excuse me.....but at what stage did Palau, Panama, Samoa, Solomon Island and Vanuatu become "quality" nations, as opposed to small countries beholden to the US, and which, to my knowledge have never voted against anything the US wanted.

Quality countries are those which have, in the past, voted as a result of US bribery and threats..........but didn't this time.

 

First of all Obama is the one who appoints people to our UN deligation. Presumably he's got his hands on those strings.

But he's got the problem that if he allows Palestine to be created as a state without getting them to acknowledge Israels right to exist or make a meaningful peace, he's going to rightfully be blamed for the ensuing terrorism and war.

You did get me to finally watch that speech of Netanyahu. No way he got twenty minutes of standing ovations. Maybe twenty seperate ovations though. However the bulk of them were for throwing in variations on "America Rocks!" and for even saying nice things about Egyptians, Palestinians etc. He didn't even get to policy for ages.

That said, while I was initially hopeful because they stayed in their seats while he was talking about incorporating a little land into Israel. He did get many of them up for a United Jerusalem for Israel, not returning to indefensable boundries, and a long term military presence on the Jordan. I didn't think there would be quite the support for those, even after twenty minutes or so of flattery, and making a decent case on the vulnerability of Israel to terrorist rocket attacks, and how Palestinians start launching them in droves whenever they get more freedom of action.