Just 14 pro-Zionism countries remaining

The politicians of these countries are more likely victims of pressure and bribery, than of a guilt complex.

See this post of mine:


www.politicalforum.com/4675365-post131.html

 

I think that it is more a combination of all of the above. The 13 victims of Guilt Complex misuse are allowing themselves to be bribed and pressured with the thought that they are helping good Jews while being unaware or refusing to acknowledge that their good intentions are being misused for the wrong purposes by a twisted government. Even I would like to believe that the 13 victims of Guilt Complex misuse are doing the right thing, but the facts on the ground speak against this desired view, forcing me to side with the 120+ nations who have learned to look beyond the Holocaust at the actual situation the way it is today. Sometimes, one has to put the past behind and move forwards into the future.

 

Seems to me that there would have been no harm, whether you support Israel/Palestine or neither, in voting for membership of UNESCO for the Palestinians.

After all, in the wider scheme of things, what difference does it make........really? A majority of countries in the world recognise a de facto State of Palestine within the 1967 borders anyway.

 

The problem is not that Palestinians are showing an interest in Culture, Religion and Science. It is their right to do so and such efforts need to be encouraged. The problem is rather that 13 Guilt Complex members want to make a big deal out of such an irrelevant matter. It is puzzling that the US of AIPAC feels that it needs to make such a major fuss simply because Palestinians like science, culture and education even though they are not citizens of Israel. One shouldn't have to be a citizen of Israel in order to be able to like science, culture and education.

 

It's government is a fractured basket case, its incapable of policing its own people, it struggles to conduct the minimum of civic responsibilities. Some nations choose to make decisions on reality instead of pipedreams. At that level it is progress that should be rewarded, not ideas. Palestine is not making any progress and getting into parts of the UN does nothing to help that, and even if it did the Palestinians are not going to take advantage of the opportunity to achieve any real progress. Its a skin deep media stunt to even try.

 

Palestine Meets All UN Requirements - Russian Envoy
http://www.turkishweekly.net/news/125621/palestine-meets-all-un-requirements-russian-envoy-.html

The only reason why followers of Israel are horribly disgusted with the nation of Palestine is because it conflicts with their illegal settlement expansion interests.

 

Explain to me, pretty please, how you "police your own people" when a large proportion of those people live around 25 miles away, over Israeli land on which Palestinians are pretty much unable to travel to do anything?

What Palestine does not have in order to fulfill Israeli expectations, is a contiguous territory to enable them to control all the Palestinian population.

And the only entity to blame for that state of affairs is Israel.

But then, it is a cracking way to deflect responsibility from Israel to the Palestinians for that state of affairs, so that blinded (ie bloody ignorant) Zionists can reproduce incapable of policing its own people time after time as a reason for continuing to oppress the Palestinians.

By the way, the Ad-hoc Liaison Committee on Palestine, composed of the EU, the United States, Canada, Norway, Russia, four Arab countries, the UN, the World Bank and the IMF, has endorsed the UN report which says that the Palestinians are ready for an independent state.

 

What you call 'wise decisions' and 'pragmatism' is what Palestinians would view as surrender and acceptance of Israeli occupation and land-grabs.

 

To be realistic, right wing Zionists can't afford to consider other perceptions but theirs or show empathy for any other people but Jews in Israel....because then they would have to look at Israel's actions without the justification spectacles on .....and realise that there is no justification but utter greed for the way Israel behaves.

As long as they don't think out of the Israeli justification propaganda box..then they don't have to engage brain and maybe see something they would be railing against if it was happening to them.

 

palestinian can be a contiguous state if it doesn't include both the west bank and the Golan heights because if it contained both then it would be cutting Israel in half and preventing israel from being a contiguous state. Golan needs to go back to egypt and the Western bank needs to go back to Jordan, or the other way around if that is how it is, and walla problem is solved.

 

Israel can exchange everything south of N. Gaza in exchange for E. Jerusalem.

 

The word is 'voila' not 'walla'. (It's French). Always happy to educate

 

Have the Palestinians ever assumed that the Golan Heights were to be part of Palestine? Do the Golan Heights not belong to Syria?

A contiguous state would require an unimpeded connection between Gaza and the West Bank.

You are aware that the only people who maintain the West Bank and Gaza are not Palestinian land are really stupid Zionists, are you not?

 

That is not the whole truth.

It seems that Zion's do not feel empathy for any people, except Jews, and not only Jews in Israel, but all Jews around the world.

Non-Jews are also expected to feel empathy ONLY for Jews.

If they do not, they are called 'filthy Anti-Semites', even if they are themselves Semites, like the Arabs.

 

My mistake I should've said Gaza. Even so it would cut Israel in half and that can't happen. Israel must be whole.

 

Israel has the same right to be cut in half as Palestine. You must understand that Israelis are human beings and that they thus have the same equal right to be treated like anyone else.

Yet, I hear that some Israelis insist that they must have all of E. Jerusalem and thus they will certainly trade all of the land south of the most northern point of Gaza for it. Israelis need to learn to trade and be fair. E. Jerusalem can be traded for a contiguous Palestine with Eilat being another Palestinian port.

 

Actually, it's voilà, tabarnak!

 

Ha! Touche-I forgot the accent grave which I don't have on my keyboard.

 

my guess is funding for a lot of them.

most get a significant amount of aid from certain western donors ... a few of the 14 also get a sizeable amount of aid - especially from the US.

 

Mange donc un char de marde!

 

Why must Israel be whole while Palestine mustn't?

 

The Resolution 181 division made each area interdependent. That's the way it will turn out, prior to the manifestation of One State for all under a democracy.

What are you trying to do, Oddie, hit Goliath with a mental stimulus ?

 

Because the Israelites are in the bible and the Palestinians aren't.

 

You need something better than religious theories to argue your case. Israelis can have E. Jerusalem in exchange for all of Israel south of the most northern point of Gaza. That way, both nations will be contiguous. That's what Netanyahu meant with "painful concessions".

 

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