Justice Dept.: 'Reckless' to release Nunes memo without review

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  1. ThorInc

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    Nunes' staffers did. They accompanied Gowdy.
     
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    OK, you answered my question.

    You really are falling for this fraud.

    You begin by saying that "There is no greater national security threat than the possibility of a foreign agent(Trump) in power". But you spend most of your time on this forum dismissing that idea and promoting various stories that endorse or rationalize his behavior. You also routinely dismiss new revalations in the investigation.

    You seem to be staring longingly at Nunes' bloody shirt, and fully buying the #release smoke screen.

    Nunes and his allies in the Trump administration are using this made up issues to distract the right wing audience from the increasingly obvious fact that Mueller's investigation into obstruction of justice is now practically an open and shut case.

    Nunes and his staff created this memo, which he won't show to anybody, using classified information supplied to him by the Justice Department.

    We don't know what the memo says. We have no idea whether it is actually supported by the documents the committee has.

    And Nunes isn't' going to tell us either.

    As long as he can wave his mysterious memo around, he can go on Trump TV and talk about it, without saying anything, or having to reveal anything of substance.

    At some point, one of the Republicans slinking off to the secret room is going to betray Nunes and release this document.

    Which will end this idiotic meme once and for all.

    It won't help Nunes' credibility. He blew that a long time ago.
     
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  3. icehole3

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    The left wants a heads up because Nunes wont give them any clue about whats going on. It's stuff from what he saw when he was allowed to view the FISA stuff and also the stuff he got at the very beginning that he went to Trump about at the start. So him and Trump's team are the only eyes who have seen this stuff.
     
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    Oh snap!
     
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    Given the fact that the committee has already voted NOT to see the documents the memo is based on, I don't expect the Republcians on this committee will actually vote to release it.

    They know the jig is up the moment they do.

    No one is worried. Nunes is a Trump lickspittle running interference for his hero. Nothing more. He foreited the credibility of his committee and his joke of an investigation nearly a year ago.
     
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    Why would we take advice from the ones who recklessly lost 50k text messages?
     
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    See the ( ? ) marks ... provide a plausible theory. That's how an exchange works. Nunes personal interpretations of FBI docs isn't sensitive material. Schiff, and the DOJ say the memo contains sensitive material. Incriminating material to be utilized in criminal prosecution? Comey hired a lawyer.
     
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    The breadth of ObamaCo's corruption and abuses of power are only just beginning to come to light. To keep it all properly buried, Hillary HAD to win. She didn't. and that spelled trouble.
     
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    They are actually working to provide some of the supporting documentation.
     
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    But...but...but....that's the past.
     
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    Well said.... a few thoughts.

    - Next conspiracy? Back to good old Andy McCabe/Secret Societies/Rogue FBI agents... That's always an easy headline...
    - Trump didn't make a promise... just a simple statement that Wilford Brimley Cobb already said was made 'in a hurry'. It's something Trump can actually say that he knows he can't be held to voluntarily.... Not a story at all
    - OOJ seems to be a lock... Question is will that begin Impeachment proceedings now, or wait until 2018 midterms to see if there is a Dem majority somewhere?
     
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    First of all, "the left" isn't demanding anything, because we all know it's an obvious fraud.

    Second, your characterization of Nunes and the "FISA stuff" is false.

    Nunes did not "get stuff" at the very beginning taht he went to Trump about at the start.

    The White House fed it to him, on the understanding that he would make a big media show of rushing off to teh White House and staging a press conference to "reveal" information that the White House had fed him in the first place.

    So, the White House handed Nunes his talking points, so he could rush to the White House, make a show of presenting the White House talking point to the President, and then going on live TV to recite them.

    It was a farce. It fell apart in less than a week. The White House operative, Sebastian Gorka, who concocted this idiotic stunt is gone.
     
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    He does come across as Wilfrod Brimley's evil twin, doesn't he!

    You do ask an important question.

    Now that there is little doubt that Mueller has a solid case for obstruction of justice, it's just a matter of presenting it to a grand jury (which can subpoena Trump), and what that jury may do.

    Even if there is no impeachment, a Democratic majority in either house of Congress would guarantee open public hearings on all these issues.
     
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    Wait a minute. Who oversees who? Last time I checked, Congress oversees the DOJ, right?
     
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    How can the DOJ say the memo contains sensitive material when THEY HAVEN'T SEEN IT?? The letter says the MEDIA said based on what NUNES/GOP said that the memo contains/references sensitive material... Not remotely the same thing...
     
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    Oh come on, you are not being fair.

    All legal professionals, prosecutors, judges, juries etc routinely reach verdicts before interviewing 17 key witnesses, including the primary subject of the investigation. Lol
     
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    Either one of the greatest conspiracies against the Republic is true or not. And needs to be verified in the quickest time possible. There is no longer such a thing as classified information in this case. That's how severe this is.
     
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    But she's the most qualified candidate in the history of the world!
     
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    You had to get an arm extender to reach for that straw!
     
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    That's because as far as we know, that's all it is: An "idea". One that has to be verified(and should have been by now) in a public announcement of some sorts. Comey did the HRC investigation in less time.(Regardless of what most think of the outcome.). I'd think you'd like to see this information, I'd like to think most Americans would like to see this information.

    But what really hurts the intelligence community is that it took several months for the House intelligence community to get this memo(it's not even the Wiretap itself.) That hurts the intelligence community even more than Nunes's own credibility.

    So yes, like it or not: One way or the other, someone in the government committed treason. If it's Trump, charge him and if it's a rogue FBI agent(or agents) they should be charged too. Or is that not okay for you?
     
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    And old knower of all things will you be here on this forum when you are proven wrong.
     
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    That's exactly why there were sufficient criminal grounds to appoint a SC to investigate tRUmp/RUssia corruption/rigging. Keep focused on the forest not the tree and you will realise it's 2018.
     
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    BS.

    The "memo" is allegedly based on supporting classified information the Justice Department has already given Nunes and his staff, and which his GOP colleagues on the Committee voted NOT to see.

    If you're going to comment on stories, at least try and know the facts and not just make up obviously false claims!
     
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    America's communists aren't interested in a moral, ethical, law abiding government, they are interested in a government that will give them more free stuff.
     
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    AKA PrincipleInvestment "Can't connect the dots" to the rabbit hole while trying to blow smoke for the Principle Investment. Got it again.
     

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