Keep it legal- lives will be saved

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  1. Whaler17

    Whaler17 Well-Known Member

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    Logic appears to escape you. Is every death investigated now to make sure it wasn’t a homicide? Hint - no they are not!
    It is even more interesting that you don’t seem to realize they once were legal, or that there are exceptions even in states where they are illegal!
     
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    FoxHastings said:
    That's why Anti-Choicers/Anti-Women folks want to ban abortion....once women's basic rights are taken away then they are ripe for having ALL their rights taken away by people who hate and fear women

    That does NOT negate my statement....it's true.

    Women can be just as mean and stupid as men.
     
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    FoxHastings Well-Known Member

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    Yes, every suspicious death is investigated...and if there is a suspicion it was an abortion it will have to be investigated.
    So every "miscarriage" would have to be investigated to make sure it was a miscarriage.
    And it's very hard to tell a miscarriage from an abortion so innocent , grieving women will be tortured with an investigation, what Anti-Choicers want.
     
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    Pro_Line_FL Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Yes, when there are two parties involved, they are investigated. Why should they simply take the woman's word for it?

    You would legalize ,murder in some instances? Wow!
     
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    Whaler17 Well-Known Member

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    Yeah women are anti woman!
    you are on to something,

     
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    Whaler17 Well-Known Member

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    on the two parties involved thing, you are viewing this through the lens of tyrannical gov’t, you know like the Democrats want.
    The actual truth is no, every death is not assumed a homicide until proven otherwise! Probable cause read up on it.

    you are waaaay behind. Read up.
    Homicide and murder are not synonymous!
     
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    Whaler17 Well-Known Member

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    So a miscarriage is a suspicious death to you???
     
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    FoxHastings said:
    That's why Anti-Choicers/Anti-Women folks want to ban abortion....once women's basic rights are taken away then they are ripe for having ALL their rights taken away by people who hate and fear women



    That does NOT negate my statement....it's true.

    Women can be just as mean and stupid as men.


    LOL, you are DODGING around :That's why Anti-Choicers/Anti-Women folks want to ban abortion....once women's basic rights are taken away then they are ripe for having ALL their rights taken away by people who hate and fear women"....


    And yes, women are individuals whether YOU like it or not and women have DIFFERENT opinions from each other...they are not cattle despite what Anti-Choicers wanting them to be.
     
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    FoxHastings said:
    Yes, every suspicious death is investigated...and if there is a suspicion it was an abortion it will have to be investigated.
    So every "miscarriage" would have to be investigated to make sure it was a miscarriage.
    And it's very hard to tell a miscarriage from an abortion so innocent , grieving women will be tortured with an investigation, what Anti-Choicers want.



    NO, I never said that...it WILL be suspicious to the Anti-Choice/Anti-Women brigade who think they must punish every woman who has an abortion and they won't let those sneaky evil women pawn it off as a miscarriage.


    I noticed how you ignored the following....don't really care , do you..:

    ""And it's very hard to tell a miscarriage from an abortion so innocent , grieving women will be tortured with an investigation, what Anti-Choicers want.""
     
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    LOL "tyrannical government the Democrats want " ???!!!!!!


    The Democrats are NOT trying to turn women into broodstock by banning abortion and destroying women's rights...

    No, that would be Republicans trying to destroy the rights of half the population..
     
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    You have it backwards. Keep in mind these laws failed long before the internet and abortion drugs.
     
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    I do not have it backwards. Why can’t you just answer my question?
     
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    In fact it is the Democrats coming for your rights. The right to free speech, the freedom of religion, the right to bear arms..
     
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    LOL, it is hard to tell a stroke victim from a poisoning victim if you don’t investigate it. But we don’t investigate every stroke victim under the assumption they were poisoned.
    Your argument is foolish any way you look at it.
     
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    On the contrary, it is your ilk who claim abortion is a woman’s rights issue , which requires the assumption that all women support legal abortion!

    It is actually you who want to dominate what women think!!!!



     
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    You have it backwards and did not ask a question. When supporting big government and the use of law enforcement to impose your beliefs on others, the burden to show a benefit to society is on your shoulders. Using your logic, we should outlaw evil thoughts. It cannot be enforced, so opposing such laws would be irrational, right?
     
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    You are thinking backwards. I have asked why fight about a law you claim cannot be enforced? The same would be true for a law against evil thoughts.
    The question remains unanswered.
     
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    What was your question?
     
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    That would be the sentence above that ends with one of these ?
     
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    I answered already. We are just going to have to part ways on your position of "Pass laws first, think them through never"

    Abortion laws cannot be enforced and have no benefit to society. You have been unable to demonstrate otherwise.
     
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    I agree, though I almost never vote for pro choice candidates because they almost always are anti gun. There is no rational basis for a ban on abortions until viability is firmly established and abortion should be legal in cases of rape, incest or medical emergencies or a fetus that is not going to survive without extensive and lifetime medical intervention.
     
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    the irrationality of fighting a law that you claim cannot be enforced is obvious! This does not mean I think we should pass laws then think about them later, it actually means you are wrong in your assertion that they can never be enforced!

    Now I suppose you will say the law is worthless if it doesn’t prevent abortions from happening. This is silliness as no law ever has eradicated the crime it was passed about. Do stabbing murders still happen? Does that mean we should make them legal?
     
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    FoxHastings said:
    LOL "tyrannical government the Democrats want " ???!!!!!!


    The Democrats are NOT trying to turn women into broodstock by banning abortion and destroying women's rights...

    No, that would be Republicans trying to destroy the rights of half the population..



    Nope, they aren't.

    But Republicans trying to destroy a basic right, bodily autonomy, are using that as a starting point to destroy all rights....which it will.

    Once people lose that right then all the others will fall under the tyranny of Republicans
     
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    FoxHastings said:
    Yes, every suspicious death is investigated...and if there is a suspicion it was an abortion it will have to be investigated.
    So every "miscarriage" would have to be investigated to make sure it was a miscarriage.
    And it's very hard to tell a miscarriage from an abortion so innocent , grieving women will be tortured with an investigation, what Anti-Choicers want.





    NO, I never said that...it WILL be suspicious to the Anti-Choice/Anti-Women brigade who think they must punish every woman who has an abortion and they won't let those sneaky evil women pawn it off as a miscarriage.


    I noticed how you ignored the following....don't really care , do you..:

    ""And it's very hard to tell a miscarriage from an abortion so innocent , grieving women will be tortured with an investigation, what Anti-Choicers want.""




    Poisoning and stroke look very different....sorry if the logic has escaped you...
     

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