La Repubblica: Psychiatrist Bruno: gays - "sick, mentally ill people"

Looks like the world is waking up! I completely agree with author that "gay disorder" should be treated as a mutation, as I stated in many other my posts here.


Original Italian version
Professionally translated Russian version
Italian version online translation
Russian version online translation

Note, that it didn't got published on English websites, what points on information biasing/blocking. But I did this for you(!), because there is still a freedom of information in this world!

I altered a bit a Russian version of the article from the mechanical translation, to make it more readable.

 

^Appeal to "authority." Still - strange words from a psychiatrist. Mental illness is not at all defined by what is "natural" or even "mutant" (mutations can be adaptive, after all, just ask drug-resistant bacteria). It's defined by impairment in functioning from the standpoint of being a happy, productive person and allowing others to do the same.

 

Exactly. There is a difference from recognizing something as unusual, unnatural, mutant, or whatever word you may do choose-and then following that up and saying it requires treatment. Humans defy nature on a daily basis. Did you ever look at someone who use birth control, eye glasses, flew in an airplane, raised a farm, used a computer, or what have you and told them.... That's not natural, you should not do that. This is not tr job of psychology, at least not in the USA.

 

as long as people are law abiding citizens who contribute to society and aren't harming anyone..........who gives a rats behind how they have sex?

When I go to have my broken leg mended by Dr Jimmy, I don't care if he prefers to diddle Joan or John. I want my leg fixed.

 

I'm fairly sure this topic was aired a month or two back. It has that deja moo feel.

 

How do you tell if something "isn't normal"? People are different, and we don't classify everyone who are just different then the majority as being crazy.

That's the problem with defining something as a mental illness. Most of the time when it comes to people with mental disorders, doctor can't just look at your brain and say that something is physically wrong. So, mental disorders end up being things that cause impairment to people's lives.

Unless being homosexual is somehow distressing to a person and they want help, It shouldn't be treated like a mental illness.

 

well i care. I don't want a sex addict as a doctor, i don't want a lesbian and i definitely don't want a homo.

 

That's... rational....

 

Lol, kind of like people not wanting women back in the day... or blacks... Ahh the sweet sweet smell of bigatory, history will remember you fondly.

If your you or your child/sibling/parent was dying and you were stuck on a plane and the only person that could provide you or that person with a life saving medical procedure would you turn it down... Taking your statement above you would - making you a case for darwin...

 

A Roman university?

Did he perhaps attend a Roman Catholic university?

What's this, more religious crap pretending to be unbiased scientific research?

 

You already posted these articles about this guy months ago. If I recall... we figured out that "Bruno" is some sort of lone-wolf extremist (or perhaps a quack).

Even so, I'd recommend people not waste their time debating over his bigoted agenda.

 

Any reason except your prejudices and your homophoby?

If they work well who (*)(*)(*)(*)ing cares with who they (*)(*)(*)(*)? And more why would you want to know their private life. You don't have anything to do with their private life. Leave living and live your life.

 

Obiously And more coming from Russia, where the discrimination against homosexuals is greater. Thanks to the influence of the URSS.

 

cut it out because your post can't be serious.

You have no way of knowing for certain with whom your Dr is having sex.

And why should it matter anyway? it's about the job they do and not how they have sex.....geez louise

 

Hey, our main troll arrived!
You are the one who is a bigoted troll.
This topic was removed by moderators twice for various reasons. You can't shut up people who have a different opinion on the situation.
Why don't you stop wasting time by trolling?

 

Do you know that every mentally sick individual believes that he is normal?
It should be treated as metal illness. It's so obvious - man and woman, the love between then and sex - designed for procreation.
Sex between 2 man or between 2 women - doesn't. It doesn't lead to procreation, thus love relationship between them and sex, as ass pumping, is an abnormality. It's not natural. If you 1 man is choosing another man to procreate - it means that he is mess up.

Ass doesn't have a natural lubrication, but vagina does. So, what you do is sick and disgusting. Your mind is mutated.

So, I am for outlaying "gay rights" and comparing it to Genocide.

 

I don't want a doctor that is an boot-licking authoritarian who would see the police powers of the state used to punishing people for acting outside a very narrow standard of behavior. I wouldn't trust such a person at all.

 

Incorrect, there's a special term in psychology for those who can't acknowledge their condition or believe them "normal" (which I have forgotten). The study and treatment of mental illness frequently revolves around those who acknowledge the problem, but need help overcoming it.

Got it... so sodomy, oral sex, and the use of contraceptives among heterosexuals is also a mental illness? Just want to make sure we're being fair here. It's not like this is the first and only example of "un-natural" things people do. Mankind defies nature daily with their airplanes, medicine, eye-glasses, food, and generally speaking, their way of life.

I often like to compare sodomy to rock climbing. Both have elements of danger. Both are done for pleasure. Both should involve safety equipment to reduce the danger. Both are un-necessary and don't add much to society (like in terms of increasing the population). Both few people would do. Both are "unnatural" in the sense that man is certainly not meant and built to be doing such things. And yet just one of them is stigmatized because some people think it's icky.

 

Interesting. Every single assertion is flat wrong.

 

No, I just want people to be certain that they should question whatever you say.

No, I don't think so.

Where are the CREDIBLE PEERS that agree with Bruno... and who are they?

I typical ask people to PUT UP, not "shut up". Do you really think your man Bruno trumps the findings of the APA and several other mental health organizations?

I don't even know how to do what that is. But I do know that the proclamations of that guy Bruno need to be challenged. I don't see how/why the man is as credible as you think he is. Again... where are the PEERS in his field, who corroborate his conclusions or agree with him at all?

 

Wow. You need to stop reading that CRAP from Bruno.

 

Oh please.

I'm so sick of this "You have to go through life as an analytical robot, and any feelings, prejudices, biases you may have must be tossed aside for the good of society."

Human beings are emotional, not logical creatures and to expect every single one of us to pretend we're robots or vulcans or something is absolutely insane.

 

No, correct. Every mentally sick person doesn't know that he is mentally sick.

Again, when male is attracted to a male and performs something what he should do with a female - this is sick. Some people, like me can even punch you for this approach. Sexual intercourse is designed for procreating and male doesn't procreate with another male. You are the one who is mentally sick if you don't understand this. Attraction of a male to a female - this is natural, because we see it in every biological lifeforms. It's designed by the nature. Anal sex and oral sex goes as extra fun for some heterosexual individuals, but the core reason is why male marries a female - is procreation. There is no core reason for male to pump the ass of another. Where do you see when one male animal pumps the ass of another? You might show me some strange animal behavior, which you usually interpret as "gay", probably, they also not prone from the genetic mutations, but it's a screw up anyway. Some people getting born with no legs or eyes, retard or Autistic, etc. These are all mutations.


Many people think that being gay is a mental illness, including psychiatrist Bruno and me and find gay intercourse filthy. Sorry.

 

You are the one who is always 100% right.

 

I also want to say what I want to say.

But I think so.

I don't understand what you are talking about.

I've never heard from you anything clever. You are here 24 hours and writing some kind of ungrounded BS. Bruno has his own findings.

I don't give sh*it what you see and I don't care.
Write Bruno, instead of challenging me.