La Repubblica: Psychiatrist Bruno: gays - "sick, mentally ill people"

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  1. JeffLV

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    I started to count, but then I realized that even the cell phone I was using to count 60 second of time was unnatural. I then put my cell phone back into my pocket made of genetically modified cotton, and now you'll find me eating the sandwich I bought from the grocery store which itself is supplied with farm products manufactured with artificial nitrogen. I'll be back in about 30 minutes after I'm done with my shower using water pumped in from about 40 miles from my house from a man made reserver created by by a man made dam. The water's pretty chilly, but fortunately I have power generated by that dam, as well as a power plant fueled by coal dug up from deep below the earth's surface. After lovely shower where I've rubbed myself all over with a host of products containing chemicals I can't even pronounce, I'll be back and ready to hear some more complaints about how homosexuals violate the natural order... on my computer which links me across hundreds of thousands of miles to all you lovely people instantaneously, just as nature intended.
     
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    Yes. Give me an example.
     
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    Oral sex....
     
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    I don't see anything wrong attacking evil. And I don't care, will you be tolerant to me or not, old fart.

    No, you care. Otherwise you wouldn't how you call "challenge" me.

    But you are not happy that I agree with Bruno and pointing me what I should think and do.

    You said that you are here to challenge something.


    This is my position on the matter and this is what I am supporting. Why are you upset? Other people think differently then you. So, keep up with this.

    Who decides that? You?
    I find Bruno credible because majority of people are not gays and don't do that, because they find it disgusting. There are polls, bulling, protests against gay marriages, there are laws, forcing me to tolerate gays around me at work, for example. It's all proves that Bruno is right and 100% credible. People find gays mentally sick. Otherwise we wouldn't see this "gay issue" on the air everyday. Right? Here you go.

    I am not sure if I understand this question, when I called gays bigots. I see that bigot is translated as fanatic. You all look like fanatics to me, protecting something, what majority finds sick and disgusting. Otherwise there wouldn't be polls, bulling, protests against gay marriages, there are laws, forcing me to tolerate gays around me at work, for example.

    Are you kidding me? There are no day I wouldn't hear gay propaganda on the air!

    Read all my responses, especially the recent one to JeffLV regarding the normality. Homosexuals have rights. Give me rights too, like what if I don't want to be around them. See? I am the one who doesn't have rights.
    You are black. I was thinking why this guy sounds like a retard.
    You can't force others to like you and be around you, like it's right now. White power organizations will fight it too, because it's a human right violation - forced coexistence. Ron Paul also points on these violations:
    http://www.ronpaul.com/on-the-issues/civil-rights-act/

    Instead, the forced integration dictated by the Civil Rights Act of 1964 increased racial tensions while diminishing individual liberty.


    So, we fight too!


    Again, see my response to JeffLV. And use your brain more often. Don't live under the rock.


    "FUTURE" doesn't always means RIGHT.


    I am tolerating your mindset.


    Yes, it's close to 50% of approval of the marriages, nothing else. The ones who approving it doesn't necessary mean that they don't find gays mentally sick. Someone is voting "yes", just because they are so fed up with continues pushing this issue, that they just don't want to hear about it anymore. If they wouldn't find gay stuff sick, then they would be gays too. Right?

    Again, if people would find gay relationships right, then there wouldn't be polls, bulling, protests against gay marriages, there are laws, forcing me to tolerate gays around me at work, for example. It's being pushed on people with propaganda. Gay people have more money, because they don't need to care about kids. Like for example, if you start propaganda that eating your own crap is extremely beneficial for your body, then many people will start eating their own crap, instead of flashing in the toilet. Right?

    Majority don't, otherwise they would be gays too. I decide for myself, how I am going to treat homosexuals. And you know how.


    It's a sick mutation, as explained earlier.


    Why they are screwed up I already explained above.

    Mutilation cases homosexuality and propaganda for weak-minded people. Like Autistic people. It's a mutation. Something didn't get right during the development.
    You treat it with stopping propaganda. You treat it with attending psychotherapist. You treat it with isolating mentally sick individuals, if nothing else helps.


    Right now majority tolerates homos. As you stated close to 50% approve gay marriages. Gays are about 2% of population, country - wise. So, why the hell 50% should tolerate 2%? So, where is a justice? Democracy? See?
     
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    Why should the majority tolerate the minority of people who are homophobes?
    Why should I have to tolerate vegetarians and vegans, and cyclists and red haired people?
     
  6. JeffLV

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    There's a difference between finding something "sick" and not wanting to do it yourself - and then being intolerant of others who would do it.

    I, for example, find eating sheep eyes to be quite disgusting. Yet I would find it pretty ridiculous to prohibit others from doing so, even right in front of me. Heck, they could have an eye-ball eating parade in the middle of san francisco if they wanted. You obviously have a philosophy that things you or the majority don't like can rightfully be shut down and legislated against, even treated as a mental disorder. We don't all share that view.

    Got it, so the heterosexuals are mentally ill now, but those who later choose to have children then become no longer mentally ill. And those who accidentally have kids despite their use of contraception are thereby accidentally "cured" despite their continued use of contraception thereafter.

    But then we have those cases of people who get their tubes tied to make them steril. Thus must be the ultimate form of mental illness, a steril person is even LESS likely to reproduce than a homosexual.
     
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    Contraception.
    vasectomy
    Running water.
    Medicine.
    Taco Bell
    Skydiving
    Airplanes
    Blue eyes
    eye glasses
    Genetically modified food
    Anal sex (among heterosexuals)
    Oral sex (among heterosexuals)
    Man-made fire, and any other form of energy man has harnessed since then
    Farming
    Air Conditioning
    Grocery Stores
    The Internet
    5 fingers (6 is actually the dominant gene)


    Humans are not exactly creatures of nature. Your objection to homosexuality is that it sits at odds with natures way of reproduction. And it's not exactly alone on that front. Sterilization and contraception set with us. And let's also not forget that sleeping with the same sex does not preclude gays from sleeping with the opposite sex as well and reproducing. It's not exactly the end of the world that homosexuals exist.
     
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    Oh, but that's not "unnatural" when heterosexuals do it. For them, it's "extra fun".
     
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    I am 100% lost what you are trying to prove here and now it proves that being gay is natural. Looks like you are seriously screwed up.

    Anyway, you didn't prove that you have holes, like vagina, naturally made for penis to penetrate them.
    If you specify me any hole in your body made for penis to penetrate them, then I will think about it.
    So, what you do is a sexual perversion, imagination of you mentally screwed up mind and this is why you are mentally ill.

    And I don't understand why you keep repeating that if heterosexual couple is using protection that it should mean, according to me, that they are mentally ill. It's natural to protect yourself from something you don't want.

    It's against the nature when man is attracted to another man. The reason why man and woman are attracted to each other - it's because of procreation. It's designed so by nature.
     
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    These are not laws of the biology we are violating. You are seriously messed up or want to mess me up.

    Disagree. We are exactly creatures of nature. If we step away, like stop eating or stop procreating, we are doomed.


    You are trying to cheat.
    We talked about laws of the biology.
    And you have torn it out from full context.

    So when man and woman are attracted to each other it's natural. When man to another man - is not. Why? It's one of the laws of the nature. Biological law. Why is that? This is the way it is. Like why Earth is rotating around the Sun. There is nothing you can do about it. So, keep up with it
     
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    Why? They are not found disgusting for many people, unlike gay affairs.
    There are no protests, there are no bulling, no polls, no laws to force to like them. We see different situation with gays. Right?
    This is why.
     
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    BTW, there are Autistic people around us. How do you determine that they are mentally screwed? They fall under certain pattern of behavior. Gays too. You perform the action of procreation with same sex, instead of the opposite. This is how you determine that this person is "gay", mentally screwed person. Gay = funny. So you act funny. But gay person is not screwed so badly as people with autism. Homosexual has only a reproductive function screwed, from a mental perspective.
    And as I told you, woman has a natural hole, created specifically for intercourse. You or your boyfriend don't. You use other, unnatural means to accomplish a reproductive act, because you have no any other. 2 man or 2 woman are simply not designed for it by mother nature.
    Yes, heterosexuals also use sometimes unnatural means, but they target the opposite sex for reproductive act. This is why they are not mentally ill. Sometimes yes, they just do it for fun, of course who likes it. Yes, they use condoms for protection and protecting yourself from unwanted events is natural. Eventually they will have a kid, if they can. Intercourse is a biological function, dictated by a biological law - reproduction. Like Earth rotates around the Sun due to underlying laws of the gravity. Grocery store and glasses, etc are not a biological law or it's violation. BTW, eating is a biological function. You go to grocery store to buy meals.

    So, you don't reproduce, while all other life forms are and in the same time you use a reproductive act on a same sex. This is why, again, you are screwed up and worthless(from biological perspective). Species which don't reproduce are doomed for extinction, in your case due to a mental illness.
    So, why people who are dooming humanity for extinction should not be considered as mentally ill???
    Do you get it now or you will keep fooling around with me with BS?
     
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    There are a few scientific hypothesises as to why homosexuality exists according to evolution.

    Bigots just don't look for the answers.
     
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    You may argue this issue until the sun burns out, but the truth is, definition of "ilness" is more or less a subjective social construct, and there is hardly an accepted universal definition. Its just arguing semantics.
     
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    Did I say I was gay? Careful now, your blinding ignorance is showing just a little bit.

    Here's the facts anyway:

    A good 60% of Americans think homosexuality is acceptable.

    53% support same-sex marriage.

    An overwhelming majority of younger people (18 - 25) support gay rights.

    You're in a minority. Gays may be a minority but they have majority support. People like you would want to lash out at people simply for being gay comprise a minority. Don't you get it? You are not normal.
     
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    You are a bigot, I am not. I don't look for an "answer", because I already found it.


    Jonny-C, answer this question. You are black, not gay, why do you support "gay rights" so fiercely?
    Do you have white people? Do you want us to disappear as human kind?

    Do you want to know that I think?
    Gay rights, as a derivative of the feminism are used as weapons to exterminate European nationalities. Add to that massive 3rd world immigration and racial mixing.

    Interesting fact, what is really points on a running against European nationalities conspiracy of this kind - that it's happening to all European nations at ones. More or less. Less in Eastern Europe, like Russia, many people in fact are informed about this war, more - in Western Europe, USA, Canada, Australia.

    So, gay rights and feminism depress a birth rate, massive immigration and inevitable mixing are genetically, gradually wiping remaining Europeans out.
    I even seen a Russian movie about this war. We are the most informed nation in the world about this. I personally met a lot of people who support this idea. Anti gay and anti immigration rallies are also prove that.

    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TFQZe0lwP_c&feature=related"]Russian Nationalists Slavic Union - YouTube[/ame]
    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_sOLmzEET3o&feature=related&skipcontrinter=1"]Russian march - YouTube[/ame]
    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GCXApAp9XGg&feature=related&skipcontrinter=1"]Russia the White Empire _ Russian Neo Nazi 2011 - YouTube[/ame]


    Believe me or not, but cleaning from all this dirt will start from Russia. I wonder how you are going explain these guys that you are not mentally ill, because you are gay. :mrgreen:
    We are too informed to be fooled with all the BS you are trying plant in my head, especially with something like "Grocery store = violation of biological law". They will show you who is bigoted. Fool your people with that BS. Ha-ha-ha!
     
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    Employment?? So despite being consumed with disdain and violent tendencies towards gay people you decide to move, by choice, to the city in the US with the most disproportionately high LGBT population?!? ...But it's okay because there are jobs?! There's jobs in cities with way less homosexuals than SF, are you kidding me???

    I can't tell if you're just a troll, a moron, or a glutton for punishment. Someone with views like yours should NOT be in San Francisco by choice. It's the most ironic thing I've ever heard.
     
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    Links please to prove that.

    You are also forgetting that America is not = Whole world. All Americans think that earth rotates only about USA, due to extreme ignorance.
    And believe me, you will be dam*n wrong about that I am a minority form the world perspective. There counties where you will be hanged. Invest money to make people to eat their own crap and they will! Tell that it's beneficial for their health. They will and tell you that it's normal.
    Did you get that?! So, keep up with this fact. Don't forget that USA is not whole world. Or I will remind you.
    Brits soon will be done as nation. You are not procreating, immigrants are taking over your country. Muslims, in fact, who hate gays. US is collapsing too, huge debts and dependence from Communist China, where gay rights are outlawed points that you are loosers with your "freedoms". Ha-ha-ha!
     
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    Does anyone really care what a bunch of neo-Nazi's think, much less yourself? (who seems to be one). People are going to gay whether you like it or not. As long as there is life on earth homosexuality will exist. It's in nature, it's perfectly natural. People can love who they hell the freaking want. Who the (*)(*)(*)(*) do you think you are to say otherwise?

    I'll tell ya... Nobody. You're a nobody frustrated because you're loosing the battle against gay rights the world over.
     
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    http://www.gallup.com/poll/1651/gay-lesbian-rights.aspx

    Solid majorities in favour of all the areas I'm guessing you would oppose. You're an extremist.

    Gay people are executed in a handful of countries now. Maybe 15 maximum? Nearly all the countries that criminalise it are either on the African continent or in the Middle East. Wow!! Meanwhile in the developed, civilised democratic world countries keep giving gay people more and more rights. Sucks to be loosing doesn't it?
     
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    Thankfully, there are no gays in the company I am working for. People around me are very family oriented and don't like gays too. This is why I am still here.:nod:
    I don't care what you think about me. Just keep discussion civilized, be respectful to people who has a different view, then you.
    I am not going to run. Why I shouldn't fight what I find wrong?
     
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    Ok, but I am not a minority in a world - wide perspective. You can f*uck up people in one country with intense propaganda, what I hear here everyday. No doubt. And it will not stop me from fighting. If someone is sick or support sick I will not support them. I will fight them.

    "Civilized world" also has laws, forcing to tolerate gays. No doubt that they will support. Stalin was supported by 100% of people. Terrorizing people with pro-gay laws will force them to pretend like they support gays.

    You loose Britain soon. Gay rights, feminism, hordes of immigrants from 3rd world... That sucks. UK is a toilet. This is where you are loosing. It hurt your English pride isn't it? These Muslims soon will be hanging you in your own county. It hurts you, isn't it? Ha-ha-ha!
     
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    Well you seem to be saying people have a right not to be around undesirables. To me, you're a undesirable. If I had the choice I would not wish to work beside or live next to you. If gays are undesireable to a majority where you come from, it's safe to say by the standards of the majority in SF it is actually you who's both the minority and the undesirable. Don't they have the right to not see or hear people like you?
     
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    I don't know about any world-wide opinion polling on homosexuality - nor do I particularly care - but in the western world at least, you are.
     
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    I've never heard that they are complain about me. But in case if they do, they are free to tell me this and we will discuss it.
    You are free not to live with me. I don't not want to live around you. But it doesn't allow me to fight and unite with like minded people no matter where I am.

    Whole world is - your screwed up mind. Don't live under the rock.
     

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