La Repubblica: Psychiatrist Bruno: gays - "sick, mentally ill people"

I think I should start ignoring your idiotic posts.
Know, the more you troll me, the more gay people around me are going to pay for it. I will hurt them emotionally, I will find a way to make them upset and depressed. I am in San Francisco, there are a lot of them. Just remember that, ok?
Got it?

 

No. None of the people that I've met who are mentally ill consider themselves normal. Sometimes they don't see the illness, other times they do.

Begging the question: why should we agree that there is a design?

What's messed up is your belief that sex is solely for procreation and that people who seek sex with those of the same gender are doing so for the purpose of procreation.

Yes, that's right, voluntary acts between consenting adults is the same as murder. What a sick viewpoint.

 

You're a really, really, really strange person I have to tell you... Let's consider first of all that many straight people are infertile and their relationships are on a par with gay ones in that neither produce kids. Then let us next consider the fact that no-where are we legally or socially required or expected to procreate, since there is no danger anywhere of under-population and gays never have and never will be a majority or a threat to civilisation. Then there's the fact that despite your fixation on the mechanics of anal sex between two men, most heterosexuals have engaged in it (which is slightly more inexplicable and unnecessary than gays doing it because there's already a perfectly good hole there), aaand not to mention the fact that HALF of all gays (lesbians) can't do anal sex.

Whatever the cause of homosexuality, in a modern society where people are free to chose their own destiny we should not be telling people who they can and cannot love and forge healthy, committed relationships with. If it disgusts you I do not care. We don't base laws or limit freedoms based on what people may or may not find icky.

 

You're in San Francisco??? Ow..! Hahaha XD

Were you born there or did you move there? I have to ask.

I think we can put this down to a "desire to be different" mentality. Some people just hate assimilating... It's like the goth/emo trend

 

Wow, so you admit to being a violent gay-basher and a bully who uses physical violence to beat people because they might engage in a form of sex you find distasteful.

I would propose that it is you who has mental/anger issues and would do well to visit a psychiatrist. Unless they're literally banging right in front of you, there's absolutely no reason for you to have the urge to attack someone for their sexuality. If you have those urges in a city like SF I suggest you either move to a hick Christian redneck town or go seek help. You are less normal than homosexuals, who are acceptable by the standards of the majority of people. You are not.

 

Found em:

http://www.frc.org/

 

May not be something we are, but should be something we strive to be. Or should we not be critical of someone that''s being irrational? I think not, that would be... Irrational

 

Just to give you some examples.... Phobias, depression and bipolar disorder are some common examples of mental illnesses that people are aware of, sometimes seeking treatment for, and still suffer from the condition after weeks/months/years of voluntary treatment. Mental illness does not mean being unaware of the condition.

You're specifically calling homosexuality a mentall illness because it doesn't constitute behavior that would lead to reproduction, but you're willing to give an exception to heterosexuals who use contraception, or choose otherwise to have sex in such a way that it will not lead to pregnancy (or those who choose not to have sex at all). It must be convinient to draw the line wherever you like and say, on the one side it's a mentall illness, and on the other it's just "extra fun". Homosexuals can and do reproduce regardless, several of my friends being born and raised from them as an example.

And you can't object to gay sex being "filthy" if you're willing to give a pass to heterosexuals who have anal and oral sex as "extra fun".

Not everyone NEEDS to reproduce anyway, nor are you calling heterosexuals who avoid reproduction mentally ill. Your double standard is clear

 

But I won't ignore your posts (for very long); I'll challenge them openly... for the sake of others.

No, I'm not doing that troll nonsense; but I AM responding to your nonsense/lies (you kind of mix that in together).

You're living in the real world, like the rest of us. You can surely affect yourself... even if you are foolish enough to think/believe you do not.

You are a human being; you can be affected as well.

You should try to be more about what is good, than what is hurtful (for the sake of others and yourself).

 

I know.

I know.

I'm sharing the TRUTH with you. If you do not see it as "clever", then that isn't my concern.

I'll ignore that lie, right there.

And that (my fellow interlocutor) is a massive portion of your problem as a participant here.

Please, try to do better than you have.

BTW, I and millions of other afford the APA and other reputable organizations far more credibility, than this guy "Bruno" I've only seen quoted here in PF. Come on, be reasonable.

If you reference Bruno here, I'm going to challenge you (or anyone else quoting him) in the exact same way. Those who comment as you do, tend to only seek the vilification and oppression of those who are homosexual. So, no doubt that you find this "Bruno" to be somewhat 'helpful' in your endeavors. But let me remind you, that the world isn't wired to suit only that which you wish to accomplish... you can in fact be challenged in many ways; some of those ways likely can/will escape your limited comprehension. It is true for all of us. Take reasonable note of that, or just prepare to get run-over by the same.

 

Yeah.

The FRC; what bunch of close-minded and corrupted folks they are.

 

You said it all, right there. Amen!

 

Looks at that! The bigoted gay from 2% of sick minority states that I need a cure to love you. Sorry, I can't tell my heart what to think or feel about you.
You are the one who is pervert, you go see a psychiatrist.

 

I am here due to employment.

 

I don't care what you find me. Attraction to the same sex is simply sick and wrong by definition. Earth is rotating around the Sun, not other way, due to the laws of physics. If Sun will start to rotate around the Earth - it's a violation of physics. It's wrong, it means something is screw up. Same with laws in biology. You are screwed up. Same like with laws in mathematics. 2x2=4. You are trying to prove that it can be 5.
Man and woman designed to be with each other and have kids by nature. If they are finding out that they can't have kids - it's a great sadness for most of them. So, don't compare dirt with gold.
What you call "modern society" with "gay rights and feminism" - for me is a sick, perverted society. My society is a society with traditional family values.

I don't want to be around you - where is this freedom???

 

The ones I've met - are.

Of course. Whole life is build due to this design. It's a foundation of life.

Jee, I feel like I am getting messed up talking with a messed up person like you!
3rd time:
From natural or biological view and sexual intercourse between them is designed for procreation - life. If you are doing it with the same sex - you are messed up. It's designed to do with opposite sex.
If definitely proves that you are messed up.

Between adults of the same sex. Not murder, you made it up yourself, I would call it - perversion.

 

Reputable for you, not reputable for me. Bruno is reputable for me. He is a brave man - he stepped out against the brutal machine and said what he thinks. And I think the same way. It's a sign of awakening against evil. Wast majority not supposed to tolerate a minority of sick people with their propaganda, like they are normal and be forced to coexist with them. We are told like we live in Democracy, I personally double that seen this in Western world. At the same time Italy is considered to be West. That means that West is awaking too! Reputable people rise against you and it's great!

I will be whom I want to be, not whom you want to be, old man. You can challenge me indefinitely. Just with you it does with no end. I figured out already, that unlike some other people who do show some intellect, you predominantly responding with some kind of BS. In one thread you trolled me for moths. Just remember what I told you. Gay people will pay with their emotional suffering for what you are doing here.

Normal people, don't be shy, we are free to tell what we think about them. It's a free world and no none has a right to dictate us, whom we should like and whom we should not.

 

That is why most people would have to see you as being at the margins.

You are human, you can be and are being challenged here. You can learn from that, or not. So be it.

 

And on what topics you are challenging me? That I agree with Bruno?
So, you want me to disagree with him, right?!
Ha-ha-ha!

Yes, I agree with him. Challenge this. Make me to disagree with him. What a laughable and in the same time idiotic position!

 

Hey all gay bigots. Tell me this. Why gay issue is so pushed on people? Why you are trying to convince people like it's normal while it's not?
It's just simply against the laws of nature. Its the same like I am proving that Earth rotates around the Sun due to the laws of physics and it's right, and you are trying to prove that it's wrong, like Earth can also rotate around the Moon. There are laws of physics, tied to gravitation, as there are laws in Biology, tied to procreation.
It's obvious for majority of people that "being gay" - is a screw up. Prove of that are protests against "gay marriages", polls, hatred towards you, bulling and laws, forcing others to tolerate and accept you, while they might not want it. There would not be all of this, if people would be finding you normal.

It's a mutation. Your mind is screwed up. Why instead of treating this "screw up", this "screw up" advertised as "normal" and pushed on all normal people??? Why majority should need you and all of this?

 

In general, your commentary amounts to attacking homosexual people. And every time I see you do that, I'll show a bit (or more) of intolerance toward your position. I promise.

LOL! I really don't care what YOU do. But I know why I'm interspersing my commentary with yours.

Oh, sure you do. That's obvious.

No.

No. Your irrational animus (posing as real science) disgusts me greatly. I'm not going into that fecal mix of hatred and confusion you're promoting.

(BTW, did I say that "Bruno" isn't as credible as the APA? I think I did.)

In any case, others should be alerted to the FACT that there are opinions more credible than Bruno's. I think it would be helpful for them to know that.

 

You find gays to be mentally ill because it goes against nature, violating the purpose of procreation. And yet you refuse to acknowledge that heterosexuals are mentally ill if they use contraception or otherwise have sex in such a way that does not lead to reproduction.

It's like you correcting our math that 2x2=5 by showing us 2x2 = 3, and then refusing to acknowledge that you actually said 2x2 = 3.

 

Would you like to go over how many laws of biology humans violate every minute?

 

How exactly are gays directing irrational animus at your or American society?

I know that some gays, sometimes do... but I want to know what YOU see that is so (bigoted).

How is it "pushed"? I want some specifics.

You either need to find a way to prove (absolutely) it is not "normal", or just LEARN to say that you believe what you do. There are millions of people (including myself) who KNOW it is "normal"; and so do most of the mental health organizations.

So, it isn't about someone 'convincing' YOU; it is actually about homosexual people fighting for and/or maintaining their reasonable RIGHTS as human beings (here in American and elsewhere). No one (especially someone who is homosexual) is waiting around for the "approval" of anti-gay, ignorant or homophobic people to get their challenged minds wrapped around that reality.

I'm Black. The reason that matter right here is this example:

What IF African Americans (and others) had WAITED (even patiently) for their status as equals, rather than fight for the same? Where do you think they would be? Of course, homosexual people are going to be forward and somewhat adamant... look at how others have treated them for centuries (and consider how YOU apparently want to treat them yourself). Yes, we are going to fight that at every level necessary or required. Above all else, we're HUMAN beings, just like you.

Tell me 'exactly' why you say that.

No. YOU and so many others are so intransigent in your thinking, that you are hanging out in the PAST (with those who think science proves the Earth is "flat"). You should at least know that modern science contends with your proclamations here in this forum, but you don't seem to.

Of course; but those things alone aren't what defines homosexuality as naturally-occurring. It is as if you don't want to pay attention to what people who spent a LIFETIME studying human sexuality have discovered over the last 50 (or so years). And I can tell you to your face, that your ignorance (whether real or feigned) is infuriating. Yes, people are working as hard to tolerate your mindset, as you theirs... don't fool yourself about that.

Their opinion matters only to themselves. After all, it isn't as though a homosexual orientation is something that can be prevented or switched-off at will. And in America, the approval of homosexuality (including marriage) is surpassing 50% readily. Again, it is worth noting that the latest credible science does not find anything abnormal about being homosexual; and the causes for it are still being looked into.

Many people 'find us normal', right along with science. The only people who don't GET IT... are those intellectually closed-in due to prejudice and/or ignorance. Really man... you have NO REAL GRIPE which should deny a homosexual person the exact same rights or liberties you enjoy as a human being (no matter where you live). And if you THINK for a moment that those who are homosexual will not FIGHT for their rights, you are mistaken.

Well, get over it. It's a fine "mutation" then.

I won't say that about you, because I rather like being decent to people. I just know we adamantly disagree.

Look... you (and no one else) even knows what causes "homosexuality" (we can't even pin down exactly what being "heterosexual" is as defined by various components); and yeah... sex-therapists would probably love to know, because a lot of husband and wife couples could use a solution to their problems about NOW.

So, tell EVERYONE reading here: How are you going to "treat" homosexuality? (I know that you do not have a proven answer; and I say we don't need to 'cure' it at all.)

Why should the 'minority' cater to the desires and whims of the "majority"?!!

Come on; try to be more reasonable about this overall. I'm not saying you gotta' get out here and advocate for gays; but what the HELL do you expect homosexual HUMAN BEINGS to do in a world where answers don't come like 'breathing' does??!! And I can assure you... if you put intolerance out there, it WILL ultimately return to you.

One is a fool, who thinks that what they dish out in reality, does not somehow bounce around and affect them sooner or later.

 

Great point! I'm using glasses to read this screen; I'm soooooo "unnatural".