Leftists are decrying free speech as a threat to democracy after Tesla CEO Elon Musk announced Thurs

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  1. Arkanis

    Arkanis Well-Known Member

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    I have been a member of this forum for almost 10 years.

    Participating in a political forum is a proof of exercising one's right to free speech.
     
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    Me too .. but what does this have to do with your hatred of free speech. the above post demonstrating your woeful lack of understanding of what free speech is - despite it being explained to you in the post you are responding to.

    Good grief -- what part of "belief in freedom of speech is belief in freedom for speech you disagree with" .. went deer in headlights ?

    That you engage in speech .... does not mean you believe in freedom of speech . .. you only believe in freedom of speech for yourself and those who agree with you .. like every good Totalitarian
     
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  3. Arkanis

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    However, I discuss freely with you and do not ask the moderators to expel you if I don't agree with your ideas.
     
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    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    What does that have to do with your hatred of freedom of speech .. What a joke of a response. You pick and choose what speech should be allowed and what should not based on your personal whim.

    Hitler helped out the poor - -that proves he is a good guy right ? .. where do folks come up with this nonsense .. sad commentary
     
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    No indeed I do not. But there will be some form of selection regardless of who runs it.
    Funny thing is that one of the very first thing Musk has said is that Twitter should be a paying service 2 dollars a month, one year subscription up front. TALK ABOUT FREE SPEECH (but once again this is not a 1st amendment issue at all)
    Thank god this is not in fact a 1st ammendment issue otherwise your guys' heads would blow up right about now.
     
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    Now THAT is a first amendment issue.
    I have zero problem with you arguing that the US government just pointing out to a private enterprise that some people are breaking their TOSs can be seen as a first amendment issue. You probably should start a thread about that, because I do see how one can argue that. At least here we are talking about 1st amendment issue proper. Looks like you might be the only conservative on these boards that understands what the 1st amendment is about...
     
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    Free speech is not a construct of government but an absolute.

    Our inherent right to free speech is limited to government's recognition of that inherent right, but that doesn't mean non-government entities can't impact free speech just the same.

    In this case, twitter has limited speech. Musk would not.
     
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    Merely cleaning up your definition since Twitter is not currently a private company, rather a publicly traded company run by share holders.
     
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    And now you know why the liberal media sphere are all melting down about the outcome of the purchase by Musk. Because they are also coconspirators. When government, especially from say the whitehouse briefing podium direct private companies it violates the premise of the amendment. Further it is unethical, immoral, and F'in illegal. This is what democrats do.
     
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    Yup. More, the issue is also one of legal liability protection in terms of 230. Government excuses the abuses knowingly because these companies have taken on a role of curators, not simply providers, and once they started that BS, they broke the law. And when the colluded with the DNC et al to stifle free speech and those folks represent government, they violated the 1st amendment.
     
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    The left can social media censor conservatives all they want but they cant censor Biden High Inflation, Gas, and Food Prices
     
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    Technically no. He could still post from @POTUS
     
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    They were protecting Trump's credibility? Why haven't they stopped all the bogus Jan 6 and Russian collusion and Hunter Biden incredible post?
     
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    Nope dodgeing

    again

    I just responded to your post where YOU get to declare what the RNC thinks and here you are taking it upon yourself to declare what Musk thinks and the arguing your made up points.

    When you want to discuss what THEY say let me know.
     
  16. Arkanis

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    Contrary to what you try to project as an image on this forum, you are incapable of an objective opinion.

    While you think you know what a company like Twitter should do to appear more credible, Twitter executives have valued the company significantly since Trump got kicked out.

    Proof that it was the right choice.
     
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    MAGA ba'a'a'd
    "Death to America" go'o'o'o'd
     
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    LOL Elon Musk is African American?
     
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    So you want to discuss something else I see.

    Ok. I think Musk following through on some things he said regarding Twitter would be good for Twitter and be more 1a friendly. And that would help their “credibility”.
     
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    In the most literal sense, yes.
    He is from Africa, now has American Citizenship.
     
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    Musk took a massive financial hit for years with Tesla running in the red, however that paid off substantially and has revolutionized an entire industry. He took the same risk in space travel which also revolutionized an entire new industry which will quickly transition to a private industry in space.
     
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    It was already on a long uptick and you have not proof that any valuation of it had anything to do with Trump.

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    So by your measure by Feb, 26 a month later they began losing credibility again and it's lower now?


    Again why haven't they banned all those who were purporting the Russian collusion hoax, denying the Hunger Biden laptop, repeating the Alpha Bank bogus story.
     
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    Unlike twitter which does expel those who disagree with twitter's preferred narrative.
     
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    I've said - and I'll say it again - that in the month since Trump was banned, Twitter's stock has gone from $51 to $77 (+52%).

    Proof that this business decision was the right one at this time.
     
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    You call it "content control" when in reality it is to control the lies.

    This has been masterful messaging by the right to call the ability to lie some sort of constitutional guarantee, which it is not. Section 230 doesn't even protect that right.
     

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