And who'd a thunk it as to which of our resident gay rights advocates showed up first to defend this pedophile? lol Romeo/Juliet laws don't cover 14 y.o.'s which is why the pedophile tried to distract and say she was 15... (we knew she was 15 at that time... but not when you diddled her pedo). It covers for a 17/16 y.o. relationship where the 17 y.o. turns 18 before the 16 yo turns 16. It extends to 15, but 14 is not covered. Have the pedo-mom throw out the word homophobe to try and gain sympathy, add to it the pedo is a very good looking 18 y.o. and the gay community was tripping over themselves as to which one of them could come to the pedo's defense (stagnant won this round) Face it... anyone who supported this 18 y.o. did so because of agenda. They justify it only because it was lesbians and would not have supported it had it been a guy taking advantage of a 14 y.o. girl. Enjoy the crow..... add salt, it makes it taste better. lol
in my state they have a 5 year "Romeo and Juliet clause" type clause, so this would be considered legal then you have 14-19 year olds all in the same high school.. some are going to date... heterosexual or homosexual personally I think 9th grade should be in jr high like it was when I was growing up, not high school .
Paedophiles are people attracted to pre-pubescent children. This case is not about a paedophile and it's dishonest to continue to use the term after this has already been pointed out. If you truly hold a strong objection to sex between an 18 year old and a 14 year old you should be able to express it without such dishonesty. Probably, but the thread was started because of an agenda as well. If the older girl had been male instead, none of us would be talking about this case at all (if the younger girl had been male, I'm not convinced it would have been a case at all).
Meh, still not a representative story of Pedophiles. Everyone knows pedophiles belong to Catholic Church as Priests. The family statement in this story is pure BS. They went to the cops on this so they can't play the whole we didn't mean for Kaitlynn to get in trouble. What a bunch of cowards.
it's more dishonest for the criminal's family to accuse the family of the girl as being homophobic. I'm being dishonest in support of a victim... whereas the anyone supporting the 18 y.o. is being dishonest to support a sexual predator (there, is that more honest) no, because there is no reason to support an 18 y.o. male with 14 y.o. female. But since gay issue was interjected, we now find there can be support by the pro-gay community. Very noble of them to jump to the aid of sexual predators. - - - Updated - - - not in Florida. There are also states you don't have a speed limit, doesn' tmean I can do 100 on I-10 in Florida
Yes, there is, because 4 year difference is small. It does not matter what genders they are. 18 and 14 is very much a grey area, legal in some places and illegal in others, with opinions on it pretty split. You may throw buzzwords about pedophilia until you turn blue but the fact is, 18 and 14 is a world of difference from an old pervert raping some kid (which is even reflected in her lenient sentence), so I dont think anyone will buy that line of thought. I too think that making this into a gay issue is stupid, tough.
and that's fine... if this incident happened in GA. It did not. Now I'm fine with the "home by Christmas" sentence for this crime since I do believe there is a difference between 18/14 and 48/14. But the fact is, agree with the law or not... in Florida, what happened was illegal. Gender of the offender/victim is a non-issue. - - - Updated - - - no, one was an adult, sexually preying on a younger child.
I was not disputing Florida law and I care less than any human on Earth what genders have sex or with whom. I was merely commenting that the law itself was stupid and she is neither a predator, a pedophile or a criminal (the law notwithstanding).
and this is how I can tell you are new to the thread, and hadn't bothered with any of the facts of the case..... Romeo and Juliet laws in FL (where this case happened) do NOT include 14 y.o.'s. 17.y.o. dating a 15 yo and then the 17 yo turns 18..... protected.... 18 yo dating a 14 yo... not protected. but this case gets more complicated than that because it revolved around lesbians and the intellectually dishonest approach by the 18 yo's family to sway public opinion on her side. She first tried to convince us she was really 15, not 14 (the girl has turned 15 since all of this started, but at the time, she was 14 and since she's agreeing to a plea deal about that... it's pretty obvious what the girl's true age was) second, her family began libeling and slandering the victim's family by saying this was a homophobic response only. And of course, the pro-gay crowd came out and instead of saying "sorry, honey, you broke the law, you get no more of a break than if it was a heterosexual couple", they didn't. They came out with "the victim's family is homophobic.... free the 18 y.o." kinda response. I can tell you, if this was a heterosexual couple, I'd hold the 18 y.o. just as culpable with the crime as I wanted to hold the lesbian girl.... the pro-gay crowd is hypocritical when it suits their agenda. Now, we can debate if the law is a good one or not all day long.... I am closer to your side of the fence on this than opposed.... 18-14..... I'm not 100% convinced its just horrible. I mean, I've dated a girl 16 years younger than me... but there is a bigger difference between 14 and 18 then 20-36. But the law is clear in FL and the lesbian was in violation. I'm most upset with watching the pro-gay crowd think they can throw around the word "homophobic" to try and bully a free pass for a law that is clearly broken If you don't agree with a law, speak out, call your legislator, campaign, lobby, to change it. It's always easier to change a law from the outside of a prison than being the example of what happens.
that right there is the gyst of it we saw "stop the hate, free kate" t-shirts, posters and on-line campaigns waged by the homosexual movement. Nobody stopped and even considered the victim.
your correct, Florida has a age of consent law set to 18, but allows those under 23 to have sex with those as young as 16 (which applies to both hetero and homo sexual), which is why this person was in trouble a 14 year old even if he\she is a willing participant was not old enough to give consent .
True, but irrelevant. Why should I believe your claimed motivation when you've already demonstrated your dishonesty? I've not seen any more evidence people defending her because she's gay than evidence of people condemning her because she's gay. You're all in the wrong.
I'm not "pro gay", I'm pro getting rid of stupid laws that wreck people's life because of absurd expectations about some as irrelevant as age between teenage "love".
so push for a change... like I said... I could fall more toward your side of that argument but the point is... in FL, when lesbian did what she did, it was illegal.... and her and her family shouting "HOMOPHOBIA" was simply an attempt to distract from the fact that what she did was illegal. They didn't argue that the age of consent should be lowered... she argued that the only reason the illegal act she commited was being pursued by the victim's family and state was because she was gay... which was a bold-faced lie. But it did serve as a rallying point for gays who have no problem overlooking the fact that she did, in fact, break the law as it stands in FL.....
The law notwithstanding - my 14 year old daughter has relations with an 18 year old, I'm kicking someone's ass. - - - Updated - - - The same people who think this is ok call 26 the new adolescence.
it's the same reason I'm not rushing out and supporting a change in the A.o.C laws to include 14 since I don't think any 14 y.o. should be having sex yet.
we intervened when my Freshman daughter was being pursued by a senior. It took her a month but she finally saw our point and him as a loser. Why weren't girls his age or 1 year his junior his target of interest? He needed the emotionally immature target
no no no.... don't you know.... since it SHOULD be legal for your 14 y.o. daughter to date an 18 y.o. you are a bigot for not allowing an anything goes mentality with your daughter's sex organs..... parents 20 years from now will look upon your actions like people look upon racists in the 60s..... lololol
I don't know if finger (*)(*)(*)(*)ing a 14 year old girl in the bathroom stall at school is necessarily love. 20,0000 text messages AFTER the court ordered her to have no contact with the young girl, sounds like some kind of obsession.
pro-gays like to ignore information like that..... remember, this is only because the older girl was a lesbo......
