Lesbian Pedophile accepts plea bargain in FL

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  1. JavisBeason

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    support or non-support of a law is a moot point. Agree or don't, it's still the law, and was the law prior to this incident. All arguing over how this is an unjust law in this thread is merely a smokescreen to avoid admitting that you are right... if this had been a guy and a girl, none of the progay supporters on this thread would be concerned with this "bad law" it only becomes a "Bad law" whenever their agenda is affected by it.
     
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    My point exactly.
     
  3. Sab

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    or you may just be very attracted to this 14 year old. being attracted to 14 year olds is not Pedophilia.
    Its an absurd law either way.
    In Germany it wouldn't be illegal at all.

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    Certainly not. Having sex with a sexually immature child is very serious as it does physical damage of a very serious nature. Haaving sex with a sexually mature adolescent is reprehensible but certainly nothing like the former.

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    Certainly not. Having sex with a sexually immature child is very serious as it does physical damage of a very serious nature. Having sex with a sexually mature adolescent is reprehensible but certainly nothing like the former.
     
  4. Sab

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    It is the Law and the legal system should enforce the law. not arguing whether the law exists or not. I don;t think an 18 year old male who has sex with his 14 year old girlfriend should go to jail either.
     
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    all require sexual predators....
     
  6. rkhames

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    Being attracted to a 14 year old does not make you a pedophile. It is acting on that attraction that does.


    I completely disagree. Fourteen year old children should not be having sex, and eighteen year old adults should not be having sex with children. If you feel otherwise then you might want to get professional help.


    mod edit..flounder in Florida, USA it is illegal.
     
  7. DevilMayhem666

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    Nope, pedophilia is about sexual attraction to medically defined children(pre-puberty). There have been men who have had sex with physically mature 14 year olds thinking they were older. Were they pedophiles by accidents? That would be silly.
     
  8. ryobi

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    People the same school age should not be charged with a crime when they have a willful relationship. It may be inapropriate but it should not be illegal.

    These are people who attend the same school functions like dances, and games. It's ridiculous to expect people the same school age not to get involved with one another.

    More often than not younger people are the ones pursuing the older people. When I was in 9th grade people my age didn't want anything to do with people their own age. They were all

    pursuing older people willfully. :roll:
     
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    You know there is usually a intelligential, emotional, and physical difference between a 14 and 18 year old. There are also middle and high schools that share the same buildings.
     
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    There are differences but both are sexually mature and their attitude to sex is better suited to education and counselling rather than punitive laws. The school business is irrelevant. Make the law 14.
     
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    Kate kept contacting the younger female (sending her texts and sex videos) even after she was ordered not to do so.

    I was supportive of Kate when the issue first hit the news but I believe that she does show characteristics of being a pedophile-not being able to control herself even though she knew the consequences.
     
  12. DevilMayhem666

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    Pedophilia is not a legal.
     
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    Apedophiles do not contact 14 year olds, they contact 10 year olds (or 3 year olds). If I was in Love with someone I would carry on contacting them too. My Great Grandmother was Married at 15 and it was completely normal then.
     
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    Reread my post. I said that Kate had the charateristics of pedophiles (not being able to control her impulses) I didn't call her one.
     
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    Pedophila is not a legal term.
     
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    How do you know that paedophiles can't control their impulses? You only know about the ones that can't. Only 5 percent of identified persons with paedophilic tendencies have commited any crime involving their sexual disorder.
     
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    I created this thread but no one chose to respond to this ‘legal paradox’ and it’s relevant to this thread so I’m posting it here. The most relevant is the bolded part, but you can read the whole post if you want to for context. I am really curious to hear what the, “it’s the law, she broke the law,” people have to say about this, “legal paradox”.
    Thank You,
    Ryobi

    Is there hypocrisy in the justice system that benefits the prison industrial complex? For example, a women has a couple drinks, she has a willful sexual encounter, she later regrets the encounter, therefore she was raped because she did not have the where-with-all to consent to sex because she drank alcohol. However, if the same women got in a car after drinking and killed someone according to the justice system she has the where-with-all to be charged with vehicular homicide? Which is it? Does someone have the where-with-all after drinking to be held accountable for their actions, or don't they? The way the justice system works today they do and they don’t depending on whether it benefits the prison industrial complex.

    Another example is a 14 year old is a child if she has a willful sexual encounter with a 19 year old and therefore she’s been raped, but if that same 14 year old kills someone all the sudden that 14 year old is considered an adult by the justice system? Again which is it? Is the 14 year old a child or not. The way the justice system works today it's both, that is as long as being considered a child or an adult benefits the prison industrial complex.
     
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    Why is it that people serve years for this? Because they can possibly get their feelings hurt? That's a pretty weak reason.
     
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    Good Point, however I'm talking about highschool students when I said, "People the same school age should not be charged with a crime when they have a willful relationship.
     
  20. Segep

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    17 years, 364 days old + 14yo = not a pedophile
    18 years, 0 days old + 14yo = pedophile

    Gotta love that logic. :roll:
     
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    You want to know what poor impulse control is also a characteristic of? Being a teenager!
     
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    But why couldn't Kate find someone else?

    I bet Kate got a lot of a female fans after she went public with her situation.

    She was fixated on this one girl.

    I am not saying that Kate should have been charged because the younger girl's parents should have been able to control her but if I had been in Kate's position there's no way I would have made the situation worse by continuing to contact the girl who got me into trouble.
     
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    I take it you have never been in love.
     
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    I have been in love but not stupid enough to go to jail for LOVE.
     
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    Agreed, but that alone does not a pedophile make. That makes her a person with poor judgement skills who did something stupid. Now, ten years later if we find out she's going out with another 14 year old girl (or other ones), then we can go that route. But teens have fixated on other teens before. It happens.

    And for the record, I think she should have done some time in the pokey if only to make her realize that when a judge orders you not to do something, you don't do it unless you're prepared to go to jail for.
     

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