Lesbians Commit Child Abuse With Doctors' Blessings

So what do you call it when a 7 yr old boy threatens to hack off his nads if he doesnt get to wear the dress.

So its society that causes the distress that becomes so intense he wants to hack off his junk? Are his two lesbian parents a part of that society.

 

They are absolutely correct.

The solution is to confront those narrow roles and allow expansion and toleration of a person's possibilities in the gender they were born...NOT TO HACK OFF ONE'S GENITALIA OR CONVINCE CHILDREN TO DO SO!

 

NAMBLA has NOTHING to do with this case. Stop with the Red Herrings

 

And denying children the help they need (as you clearly want to do) is never going to be OK or in vogue.

There is no child abuse here. The child has gone through years of therapy and the psychiatrists and doctor agree that this is what is best for child. Anything less would be child abuse.

 

People often have creatures of the mind that is hard to get rid of. Once the creatures are there, its sometimes impossible to remove the creature from the mind.

This topic is a stunning example of creatures of the mind. Many who oppose this keep saying this is child abuse, while not listening to the fact that it takes years of therapy and discussion to finally come to the conclusion that this is what is BEST for the child.

The poll is meaningless.

 

Read what I just wrote:

The "help they need" is not the assistance of other mentally-affected people convincing them to mutilate their bodies because the media has foisted extremely narrow gender-roles on the general public...so much so that people now are moving to butcher themselves if they get an inkling they fall short of this manufactured-"perfection"...

I once debated with a man who had the butchering done, was calling himself "she" and was admitting that he had no more sensation "down there" sexually...but that it was "all worth it" because now he could dress in stockings, wear makeup, dress in high heels and go shopping just like all the women do...

I patiently explained to him that not all women do that. That some women wear pants, dig in the garden, stand alongside men on fire lines and in the military, and no, not all of them are necessarily lesbians. Some women even wear pants and lab coats and invent new vaccines and engineer marvelous inventions. Few of those don high heels, stinky perfume and shop at the malls like idiots.

He seemed to become very edgy with where the conversation was going [that he may have made a grave error]..and began hostiliy lashing-out, insisting the thread be closed down. Classic signs of a denial system nearing capacity..

 

^^^^ all this shows is a complete ignorance of what transgender-ism is.

You don’t get it, they were born in the wrong body. Teaching 'toleration of a person's possibilities in the gender they were born' will work no more than forcing a left handed person to live as a right handed person.

There is no 'hacking off' ones genitalia, it is simply taking what is there and remaking one organ to another.

You must really stop with these creatures of the mind.

 

What are you promoting some type of spiritualism that says people should cut off the visible signs of their gender?

What are you basing this on? Self-reporting? Seriously? And if you're saying their brains are somehow different, be aware that the brain's very morphology can change after birth according to how the self molds it in response to its environment. A boy child told subliminally or otherwise that 'male is not good/wanted/or accepted' by guardian since birth may actually affect the morphology of his brain by "trying to be female".

Narrowly-defined and promoted gender roles in media are at the cause of this. In the OP a professional identified that for some reason this phenomenon seems to be on the rise: indicating it is a trend instead of a bone fide physical issue.

Understanding trends is nothing new. Trends are taught, not born with. So again, are you saying this is a spiritual issue? And if so, where are my bird wings? I did so much want to be a bird as a child and I feel oppressed that I was never allowed to become what I was born to be..

Before any further drugging or mutilation is done of children, we need to understand why this phenomenon is on the rise and why people are having such a problem with being in their gender, instead of automatically assuming it's some nebulous "born that way" [without the data to back it up] physical causal agent.. What's next? Elephant ears for kids who want to be dumbo?

 

Why do you keep saying, 'cutting off', 'mutilating', etc. It is transforming one sexual organ to another, plain and simple. Talk like this shows clear ignorance on the subject matter.

We have already had brain scans done on homosexuals. Gay men have female brains and vice versa. And these are in adults not children. It gives creditability to the motto that people are born like this.

You do realize in this case, the couple has raised two other boys right? They do NOT have have this issue. So there goes this thought of ' subliminally told to be a girl' utter nonsense. Again, just more creature of the mind at play here.

Not even close, in fact your not even in the ballpark. Its more like you're in Boston and you are trying to locate Wrigley Field.

Are we back to this bird nonsense?

 

Your confusion is based on your lack of understanding of the options.

Surgical alterations have some danger AND are not very reversible.

The use of blockers to delay puberty simply leaves the body physically immature for a time, it can be stopped at any time, it pretty much mimics what happens with some kids naturally, and can happen from severe diets, exertion and illness.

We observe the effects of delayed puberty regularly in gymnasts, dancers, and other highly driven kids of that type. And it is rumored and probably some of them actually deliberately delay puberty to maximize their competition time, just as some actors have done it to maximize their time for young-looking roles.

The kids with gender dysfunctions have serious issues, and delaying puberty can help give them more time and more maturity to decide how to deal with the conflicts, decisions they then have to deal with for the rest of their lives.

A late puberty is not a high price to pay for a better decision.

 

So, can we quote various PoliticalForum poll results as justification for medical and political policy decisions in general from now on?

 

Oh that would be for these reasons:






http://ai.eecs.umich.edu/people/conway/TS/SRS.html

Might I remind you that this is what these lesbians are chemically coercing this boy to end up doing to himself.

There is nothing "simple" about it. The self-mutilating man I debated with reported "much pain" and "no sensation" sexually after he healed his amputation. He now regrets his surgery but does his best to pretend like he doesn't..

With the aid of "doctors" no less... with State and Federal agencies giving their nod with their silence..

 

Remind away, but what the doctors are prescribing for this teenager has NOTHING to do with the operation you describe.

Delaying puberty is NOT "castration"!

These fabrications do nothing to advance your case.

 

Learn the difference between sarcasm, and red herrings.

I would think a group with a bias towards a certain position shouldn't really be the gold standard of determining what is acceptable wrt the topic about which they possess a bias.

 

And how exactly can you distinguish yourself from those with "creatures of the mind"?

 

What a hilariously horrible analogy, since there are PLENTY of people who were born left-handed that taught themselves to be right-handed...including my father.

The genitalia hacking is referenced in the OP. The child himself was alleged to have attempted self-mutilation.

 

Don't you already?

 

"Some" danger? They're extremely dangerous, and rife with complications. As for reversible, it depends upon what procedure you're talking about.

Except that we don't really know what the long-term consequences are, including susceptibility to cancer and other malfunctions.

There is nothing you or anyone else has established to demonstrate how "delaying puberty" can lead to a "better decision", when a key factor in dictating these decisions may be experiencing these naturally occurring hormones.

How do you know that naturally increasing testosterone levels won't result in a cessation of the (alleged) desire to be a girl?

 

Yes...because teaching yourself to write with the other hand is easy, so therefore teaching yourself that you are a boy must also be so easy.

What an ignorant post.

 

If it wasn't a physical issue, why is it treated like one? If it was a mental illness, why are people immediately cured of their illness after gender reassignment surgery?

 

Yours? I agree.

Review what I responded to:

Horrible analogy, as you can force a left handed person to live as a right hander.

Nuns did it all the time, including to my father.

Your retort fails.

 

Your entire OP fails. You cannot force someone to be someone they are not. End of story. Case dismissed.

 

Determination of sex is not always straightforward at birth.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intersex

and is also affected later if a child identifies differently as per Tammy.

You never answered how old you were.

You were deluded. This is not the same as gender identity.

AT THREE YEARS OLD?????

A three year old doesnt have 30 in biceps, period, as you Americans say (I assume you are American).

As I say, i do think you have a point re the stereotyping, and in an ideal society maybe some people could live their identity without surgery, in fact I used to know a bloke who was a well known drag queen, but everyone is different and if a young kid is threatening to chop off their bits ignoring that is abuse.

This is reversible hormone treatment, that's all, and maybe at about 16 they will choose to have surgery just as some 16 year olds choose to go and fight in Afghanistan. Everyone is entitled to their choices, whether you like it or not.

 

and this NAMBLA is equivalent to a world professional health body? I've never heard of it, how come you know so much about it?

 

The genitals between ones legs makes it easier to teach a kid his gender. ...... if you havent hacked them off yet.