Lewiston police tell NBC more than 20 believed dead in mass shooting

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  1. Turtledude

    Turtledude Well-Known Member Donor

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    do you think that in the 24 hour news cycle that such shootings should get far more attention than they do?
     
  2. Pro_Line_FL

    Pro_Line_FL Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You mentioned whites, so it leaves only blacks and asians, so I assumed you meant black, but now that you rule out blacks, it can only mean you meant asian. But we all know you didn't mean asian, you are just not honest enough to admit it.

    I don't worry about how much they should get. This one barely made the news, and it doesn't surprise me, because the death count is not higher.
     
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  3. Turtledude

    Turtledude Well-Known Member Donor

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    do you note that often the shootings that get the most attention are the ones that help drive the anti gun agenda?
     
  4. Pro_Line_FL

    Pro_Line_FL Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Of course. If there was no gun violence, there would be no agenda either, - so yes, the agenda is all about the violence. Its common sense. Gun violence is on the rise, so you can expect more calls for restrictions.
     
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    again with the silly-ass term

    Do you refer to it as knife-violence when folks are stabbed?

    Do you refer to it as vehicular-violence when some is killed by a reckless or road-raging driver?

    Do you refer to it as knuckle-violence when a person falls to the ground, hits their head and dies after being sucker punched?

    Of course you don't

    Democrat talking points are tedious at best
     
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    Have Tanks Will Slaughter.
     
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    Turtledude Well-Known Member Donor

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    and at the same time-when the media accentuates the news of violence, lots more people buy guns for self defense. What happened in Israel is amazing-several kids I coach are the children of liberal Jews. They all were moderately anti gun when I first met them. One now has a carry permit and his wife asked me to teach her how to shoot. They asked me to show their sixteen year old daughter how to handle and field strip both an AR 15 and a AK style rifle since their daughter plans on going to Israel in the next year and hopefully back in 2025 to represent the USA and the Maccabiah Games. They figure that would be good information for her. I am tempted to break down and buy a TAVOR so she can learn on that too. Another couple signed up for CCW classes.
     
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    Turtledude Well-Known Member Donor

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    I don't know if that is a Democrat talking point to be fair
     
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    Pro_Line_FL Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Mass murders always make the news, and if more people buy guns for self defense, then so be it. I don't have a problem with that. I just hope they don't use them to settle arguments, which seems to be the case in the TX flea market shooting, and some other recent incidents.

    Of course not. The term "knife violence" exists, and its not a talking point. It's discussed in UK quite frequently.

    Knife violence: injuring or fatally wounding somebody with a knife. intent to injure or harm somebody with a knife.

    "Knife crime" is also an existing term.
     
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    hard to tell if there really is more of this nonsense going on, or if the news media-in a need to fill a 24 hour news cycle is reporting-nationally-on stuff that never made it on the national news back in the days of Cronkite
     
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    This incident was small news and didn't fill anything nationally. Mostly a local news event. I went to CNN.Com and had to use the search option to see the story there.

    Why do you feel they should NOT report an incident where 5 people are shot?
     
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    And, after all that, self defense still not mentioned in the 2A.
     
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    It a talking point from the party for which you vote; Democrat

    Going forward, I anticipate your use of "knuckle violence, vehicular violence, and knife violence" .
     
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    No, I'm not a Dem voter. No clue why you feel compelled to tell people who they vote for, when you obviously don't have a faintest clue.

    You can anticipate whatever the heck you want. I anticipate nothing but more trolling and childishness' from you.
     
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    again, avoid the fact that you continue to push Democrat talking points. It is what it is. At least you are consistent with the Democrat party line; I will give you that.
     
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    nor is abortion or homosexual marriage or sex change operations or the internet, or television or satellite communications etc.
     
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    let's not play that game. local news always will report shootings like that-I am taking about the massive over coverage of shootings that help the anti gun movement at a national level
     
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    Why does it surprise you that a mass shooting make news? If you think it helps "anti gun movement" then so be it, and maybe it does, but those incidents are the very reason there is such movement.
     
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    Thanks for finally confirming my point...
     
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    Yes, knives are very effective against disarmed victims.
    It is illegal to carry a knife in the UK, yet stabbings keep soaring up. How can that happen? ;-)
    BBC, Knife crime: Fatal stabbings at highest level since records began in 1946, 7 February 2019.
    https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-47156957
     
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    do you actually understand what the founders based the constitution upon? why don't you tell us what you think the second amendment is intended to protect and why
     
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    Anyone can legally buy knives, because they are common items in every household, so no, they are obviously not illegal to own. So, they had 285 fatal stabbings, while we had 21 000 murders (excluding suicides) with guns. And yes, I am aware our population is 4.5 times larger (which would translate to 1 300 stabbings vs 1600 stabbings in US), but still....... I'm not sure if you have a point here, because us in US have stabbings AND firearm deaths.

    A better question would be to ask why UK had such low number of homicides and measly 29 by gun, and that number is declining. You think it has something to do with availability of firearms?

    But I don't actually care. UK is UK and US is US, and I will never live in UK no matter how low their crime rates are.
     
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    what was the British rate of murder before they banned handguns and instituted other authoritarian laws concerning citizens being able to be armed?
     
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    People are stabbed because they have been rendered defenseless by law.

    Are you ready to ban the possession of knives? Or not?
     
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    All crime including gun crime soared up after the gun ban.
     

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