Like or hate Trump

I didn't, but at that point Trump didn't have a track record.

I had my eye on her dishonesty when she made $300,000 on a cattle futures trade.

I wouldn't waste my time if I got free tickets.

Ugh! Almost as bad as a Hillary and Bill Show.

 

Well, like or hate Trump, we did enjoy Peace and Prosperity while he was President.

Bidenomics = Inflation
Inflation = Pain for the American Worker

'In a recent Winning The Issues survey (Sept. 13-14), 50 percent of voters had an unfavorable view of Bidenomics, with only a 26 percent favorable score. That’s a nearly 2-to-1 negative image for what is the president’s reelection centerpiece.'

Bidenomics is hurting folks.

'Biden’s job approval on his handling of the economy was nearly as bad, with people giving him a 36 percent approval rating to a 54 percent disapproval rating.;

Biden's been a wrecking ball for the economy.

'When it comes to the direction of the country, the right track/wrong track continues to be underwater, as it has been for months. Twenty-seven percent of voters said the country was headed in the right direction, while 60 percent said we were on the wrong track; 60 percent also said inflation was getting worse, not better, with only 16 percent believing it was getting better.'

Love him or hate him, Trump was much better for the economy, peace and prosperity, and working folks. Now do I wish someone would take away his phone so he can't tweet? Of course, but if putting up with his tweets is the price of seeing the guy next to me better able to provide for his family, well, that's a small price to pay!

https://rollcall.com/2023/09/20/lat...ws-americans-are-still-not-buying-bidenomics/

 

No,I wish he would disappear

 

Propaganda Alert!

Real wages only ticked up as they did under Slick Willie Clinton. This is seen here...



This is a continuation of a decades old problem. The idea Trump made a difference is refuted by these graphs.

They started down--about 5% in Trump's final year--and this is for full time workers.

He didn't give us prosperity. Your claim is absolute BS. A disgusting fraud the MAGA types are lapping up. For once, pay attention to the evidence.

 

Sorry the only Truly fascist party in the US starts with a D.

 

Bogus Trump is only a threat to administrative state tyranny.

 

would you itemize in specifics the Biden crimes you are referring to , Wherei s the EVIDENCE for same??

We HAVE evidence for Trump's crimes.... and blaming the alphabet gang of contributing to rigging an election is someone's fanciful imagination......or taking The Trumpsters version of things literally......... which is foolhardy at best.
OTOH..... if you have hard evidence for your claims...... let's hear it.

Otherwise , we seem to be going over the same thing by the Trump supporters. Things that have become repetitive. with no new ideas.

 

In what way??

 

Peace and prosperity " under Trump??? Really......... How so , as the pandemic was killing people, businesses were closing, people could not work at their jobs, We are still recovering from that phase.

 

Same as any other president can. Fire everybody he legally can do not hire replacements from the usual flock of retreads. Hire like minded people from the outside to start cleaning the mess up End every single one of these bogus new agencies biden has started without congressional authority. Now these like minded people are going to have to be tough minded as well because the Administrative state is going to resist any attempt to roll back their power. So they better be prepared to undergo every possible attack fair or foul that you can think of.

 

Obama/Biden blamed Bush for 8 years, then Trump became President, we immediately prospered, and then Obama tried to take credit for Trump's economy, and now Bribed Joe is pointing fingers at someone else for Bidenomics?

No one is fooled. Look at the polling. Biden's disapproval on Inflation is 65.2% on Inflation. Two out of Three Americans agree, Bribed Joe's Inflation really really sucks! Now that's bringing America together@!

 

Sure. Bribery. And the evidence has been posted extensively throughout PF. And here's a good summary link.

https://www.manhattancontrarian.com...we-start-calling-it-what-it-is-namely-bribery

 

"Not necessarily" and "may" in other words while you demand a Republican plan you can't give me a Democrat one.

We discuss such things routinely here and the Dems MUST have a plan you know of since you demand the Republicans detail theirs to you.

It's they only think you offered so far what else you got?

 

This more of your determined effort to propagandize the forum. Once again...



Economic growth in Trump's first three years (before the covid pandemic) and Obama's last three were almost identical.

There's no such thing as "Bidenomics." You've pretty much taken yourself out of any serious discussion of how we should manage the economy.

So, what should we do about positioning our economy in what is worldwide inflation?



Go ahead, strut your answers.

 

My (not Democrats) suggestion...

We should raise general taxes to pay for Medicaid. We should raise general taxes to make up Medicare, Obamacare and Social Security shortfalls occasioned by holding payroll tax rate increases to the percentage increase in wages.

Your approach? Two-thirds of Americans say they prefer we raise taxes to cutting benefits levels.

 

Well give me the Dems as you are demanding of the Reps. The Dems control the Senate and the White House, they even had the House Biden's first two years. Why didn't they pass plans then?

When you say raise general taxes to just keep pouring money into those programs how is that sustainable and whose taxes? Which are the "general taxes"? Across the board EVERYONE? Half of Americans don't pay those taxes so of course they support raising them on those who do. What about the ever increasing cost spiral? What are you going to do about that?

 

You're the guy identifying with a political party.

"Pouring money?" Why the negative terminology? These programs take care of Americans.

They're sustainable by raising taxes.

The taxes of people making the most money...

So what? You're just looking for a way to make life even worse for "have nots." The system is already stacked against the middle class.

Maybe nothing. It depends upon the program.

 

Youy're the guy who made partisan.

You can't raise taxes enough.

Evn if you taxed everything they have wouldn't be enough.

What was stacked against me?

 

Geez, you're so partisan you don't even know you're partisan.

Americans pay some of the lowest taxes of industrialized countries.

A dishonest argument.

This is stack against working people.

 

YOU made THIS partisan not me. I'm a conservative not a Republican, show me a conservative Democrat I will will consider voting for them. I voted for a Dem AG last election in my state. Who was the last Republican you voted for?

Only the bottom 50% because they pay virtually no federal income taxes. But then why would I want to adopt those other country's tax policies which ones have better economies with more economic freedom than here?

A dishonest reply. You could tax every dime of income of the top 1% and it would not fund what you want government to spend. If you want government to fund your life then turn your paycheck over to it and live with what it gives you back.

I was a working people all my life how was it stacked against me? What was owed to me that I didn't earn for myself?

And that productivity had been increased by modern efficiencies like machinery and automation not because the human worker produces more physical labor in a days time than in previous history and in fact less. Heck the UAW wants 40 hours pay for 32 hours of work now.