Like or hate Trump

Discussion in 'Political Opinions & Beliefs' started by garyd, Sep 16, 2023.

  1. garyd

    garyd Well-Known Member

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    But Abortion always harms others. But your last paragraph is dead on.
     
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    Patricio Da Silva Well-Known Member Donor

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    Nice dodge.
     
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    Patricio Da Silva Well-Known Member Donor

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    The indictments are backed by solid evidence. You are not thinking this through. You think Smith or Willis would indict a former US President,
    with the world spotlight burning down on their asses and not have more than enough evidence? I don't think so. You know the old saying, when you point an arrow at the king, you'd better not miss. Well, a former Us President, the target doesn't get bigger than that.

    And the idiots in the Republican congress are oblivious to it. But, Weiss, isn't, and settled for an easy peazy gun charge and zero criminal referrals for Joe Biden. Weiss is mindful of that old adage.

    In the meantime, Trump is a threat to US National Security.

    But, nobody knows more about stupid that Donald Trump

     
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    DEFinning Well-Known Member Donor

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    Quite a load of questionable justifications, in your narrative. Hopefully, future listeners to such interpretative fantasies, will be limited to your grandkids.
     
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  5. garyd

    garyd Well-Known Member

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    Justifications for what? That is the truth and whether you like it or not it is what happened as near as anyone can figure it out. I notice you didn't post a counter argument with any rational thought behind it.
     
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    garyd Well-Known Member

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    Nice non response.
     
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    i don't know about other things but i like Trump gave us this

    https://www.businessinsider.in/poli...ng-theatre-incident/articleshow/103737294.cms

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-n...denver-beetlejuice-vaping-groping-republican/
     
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  8. LangleyMan

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    I'm not an Obama fan. Like his predecessors, he failed to do anything about workers wages being essentially stalled for 40+ years while business more than doubled their returns.

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    I thought that you were an “independent,” not a progressive radical. How is the Federal Government supposed “to do something about workers’ wages” short of pushing more regulations and passing more laws, which often makes more people unemployable?

    Businesses pay workers what they are worth. If someone thinks they are underpaid, they change jobs. People are doing that far more than they did when I was in the workforce. My generation did it far more than the previous generation. One old man retired from the company after 56 years at the office my first employer. When I worked for AT&T, you had work for the company for 19 years before you could be a member of the Telephone Pioneers. Today, there would be no eligible members because very few stay with a company that long.

    If you want participate in economic growth, make money in more ways than just wages and salaries. Invest in your 401k. Buy stocks and mutual funds. If you don’t make enough to do that, income distribution really has not changed all that much. Those at the bottom of the latter have never been well off.
     
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    It did not seem worthwhile to try to reargue all of that history, with so many of your erroneous beliefs. But if you want me to point out one: calling Mormon Mitt Romney, "war mongering," seems obviously counter-factual.
     
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    Agree on ending the Bush I, Clinton, Clinton, Bush II, Bush II run. That was not a great thing for America having 2 families in charge for near 2 decades.

    I was with Clinton in 2nd term, because of how great the economy was in the 2nd term
    However, He sold out American mfg workers when he sided with the republicans and their NAFTA treaty.

    It stagnated American workers wages and growth for decades.

    But trump, could not lead his way out of a wet paper bag.
    Nor does he care. He said himself, he takes no responsibility.

    He is a 1st class narcissist who only has 1 objective. How to make himself the center of attention.
    Good or bad. He doesn't care. As long as he's the subject.

    The fact he tried to stop our democratic election process for president and upset the peaceful transfer of power is beyond any measure of disgust compared to your so called neocons you don't like

    If MAGA can't win on policies and actions and they have to end American democracy to implement it because they can't win, that means 1 of 2 things.

    It's terrible policy for most Americans.
    Or the leader of it was terrible for democracy.
    #3 I guess, both of the above.
     
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    So, you figure auto workers are on strike so the union can get more money to donate to the Democratic Party? How stupid do you think auto workers are?[/QUOTE]
    You're blaming unions?
     
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    The circles it is usually talked about in, are the circles around the 2x impeached incumbent loser.
    Some MAGA, a lot of QAnon and those circles.
     
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    Did he or did he not vote for every funding measure in Iraq and Afghanistan and every other neocon instigated war while he was in office?
     
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    Can you refute each point the poster made and explain how they were lies?

    Since trump said or did every one of those points made.
     
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    Or in ca. and other leftist bastions after he was elected.
     
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    That how followers roll.
    That's why trump said he could shoot someone in the middle of 5th ave and not lose support.
    He knows how to get members to be completely loyal to a person.
     
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    Except he didn't. As I've said many times before 90% of what people believe about Trump is a lie.
     
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    Spoken like the MAGA member trump wants.
    With no basis for said claims. Just say stuff and see what sticks.
     
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    garyd Well-Known Member

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    I am loyal to a selection of ideas, sadly only Trump and a handful of other nationally known politicians are espousing those ideas and none of them are Democrats.
     
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    More than fifty years of history says I'm right.
     
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    LOL. In your mind.
     
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    I've not seen anything in this thread that supports your above claim.
     
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    garyd Well-Known Member

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    Do you know anything at all? Shortly after Trump was elected a hell of a lot of leftist in Blue states most notably Ca were talking about secession. Is your memory really that short?
     
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    Well, that's why this thread is a failure.
    More rah rah rah trump.
    Ignoring every thing the 2x impeached incumbent loser has done in his private life and political life.

    This is nothing but a thread of lies. Like trump said, paraphrasing, I take no responsibility.
    You cheer for that.
     

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