Lock Him Up? A New Poll Has Some Bad News For Trump.

But she's teaching a very important, anti-soda message-- come on, man! Have a heart.

 

Yes he did when he admitted he knew it was classified on tape and when he conspired to violate the subpoena.

 

That would, plainly seem to be the writing on the wall-- in large print, for the nearsighted who have, up till now, failed to see it.

 

So I should take it, that you see nothing really wrong, with anything Trump did, after losing the election?

 

Really?

C'Mon, Man...:smdh:

 

Even those who are obviously guilty, deserve a trial.

 

Hard to rectify all Trump's conspiratorial planning, with an ignorance of any wrongdoing. Besides, intent is only relevant in some specific charges, and being ignorant of one's criminal acts-- despite having a bevy of lawyers at his disposal, to set him straight-- is not an exonerating excuse, does not make it, therefore legal to try to crookedly overturn an election.

 

His real crime is pissing off the powers that be.

You don't see anything wrong with how they handled the counting in Georgia?

And no I don't buy into the hair on fire hyperbolic claims of insurrection

 

This is a different topic-- albeit a related one. What is interesting, and again, does not bode well for the Donald, is that five or six of those indicted by Fani Willis, are actually petitioning not to slow down the process, like Trump, but to expedite it. The logic for this, I heard credibly described, could be that those five don't want to be left holding the bag, when Trump throws them under the bus. The reason they might believe that this is what will otherwise happen, is that Trump has been recently claiming that he was just listening to the advice of his lawyers-- all of those, requesting speedy trials, by the way, are lawyers.

Also, lawyers realize that the first ones to turn state's witness, typically get the best plea deals; those who wait, can be used by the ones who take deals, like caulk boards, for having the blame pinned on them.

 

The Republicans in Georgia - all trump supporters - didn’t see a problem with how they handled the counting.

 

And the leaning on Georgia's Sect'y of State Raffensperger, to "find" Trump, X number of votes?

The attempts to access voting machines, in order to paint a false picture of questionable vote totals?

The slates of fake electors, from Purple states?

 

I've been telling you guys to hurry up and lock him up for a while. That's the GOP's best way to win the election and save them from their self. Biden couldn't beat dead Bob Dole in an election but he can beat Trump.

 

Locking him up won’t stop him from winning the nomination.

 

You really don’t get it.

This isn’t about targeting trump. It isn’t about getting him out of the election. It’s about prosecuting a criminal. Applying the law equally.

 

He was just concerned with Election security, just ignore the fact that he didn’t ask about any race except his own lol

 

Oh please, Trump haters don't care anything about rule of law. They just say that when they don't want to let Trump get away with the smallest little thing.

I suspect these people don't even understand what rule of law actually means and how it actually exactly relates to any of the things that Trump did. Just jump on the boat of the prosecutor to bend the meaning of the wording of the law to match the accused person's known actions.
That's not really so clearly "rule of law" in operation.

 

@FatBack and @Steve N --

Are you even willing to listen to the views of a retired Right wing Appellate Judge, with unimpeachable Conservative credentials--described as one of the nation's leading Conservative legal minds? Or are you afraid of what you might hear? I'd love to know how you would respond to Judge Luttig's plainspoken points. In fact, I recommend this fairly short video to all: some really weighty statements, he makes.

And he is not alone, but was part of an "influential group of Republican legal voices," including GW's Attorney General, Alberto Gonzales. Luttig, by the way, clerked for Justice Scalia, and served in both the Reagan and George H.W. Bush Administrations, in high positions.

 

I agree with you but, I would rather have real candidates then have Trump or Biden, if Trump did not run, Biden would not run... win\win

that said, if Trump did these things, it's all on him - if dems let him off for political reasons, would that be right?

 

Be that as it may-- you cannot credibly make the same claim, about leading Conservative legal minds. So here is a test of what you care about, yourself: listen to the interview I just posted--

http://www.politicalforum.com/index...-news-for-trump.613092/page-2#post-1074397331

-- or do you just say those things about so-called "Trump haters," when you don't want Trump to be held accountable for his actions, by a jury, in a court of law?

 

Did what things?

You don't seem to understand.

Are you just referring to laws that were allegedly broken, or overall characterizations of what Trump did, or are you referring to what Trump actually did precisely?
All three of those are not necessarily the same thing, and the first two are open to opinion.

 

That description is going to also fit, all of the witnesses against them-- but you know that will only prove (all our Righty friends, here, will tell us) that Trump supporters must be inherently untrustworthy.

 

@perotista @Statistikhengst

Highlights in blue above are of interest because any significant movement amongst Independents has implications for the 2024 outcome.

With almost 2 out of 3 wanting the trial to occur PRIOR to the election in November means that they will be basing their decisons on the verdict.

That 1/3rd say that a conviction would make them LESS LIKELY implies that they would be supporters of his should he be the GOP nomiee.

Granted one poll is just a blip and without other corroboration it is an outlier but let's make a note of this and see if any trends start to appear in the future.

 

So basically you just proved its all election interference. Nice to see lefties admitting it.

 

I don't see that happening.

Inmate P01135809 will be spending his days in courtrooms and his nights in cells for many years to come.

UNLIKE repubs, those on the left are NOT single issue voters. There are the Xtofascist issues of abortion rights, book bans, trans healthcare, school curricula and mass shootings to MOTIVATE them to vote BLUE in record numbers.

Once Sideshow Blob's first conviction is returned he no longer matters as far as elections go.

 

ONLY if the LAW in question CONTAINS a provision that the prosecution MUST prove INTENT beyond a reasonable doubt.

Inmate P01135809 ACTIONS prove his INTENT to STEAL those Classified Documents.

Inmate P01135809 ACTIONS prove his INTENT to RIG the GA election results.

Inmate P01135809 ACTIONS prove his INTENT to OBSTRUCT the transfer of power.

Inmate P01135809 ACTIONS prove his INTENT to use Campaign Funds to BRIBE a hooker.

Sideshow Blob's future contains handcuffs and prison cells shared with his fellow rapists, shysters, thieves and liars.