Looks like most people thought Ron Paul won the South Carolina debate

You mean like assassinating 3 scientists? I'm waiting for the blowback on that one. No doubt it will just make for a better excuse to invade. That's what we're doing really....poking Iran with a stick until it retaliates. Then we can be 'justfied' with some more shock and awe.

USA...USA...USA!!!!

 

But it does mean that they have skin in the game. The rest of us are armchair quarterbacks.

 

He is the only true conservative running. The rest are neo-con artists, and hypocritical bought & paid for corporate sock puppets, yet I repeat myself by being redundant. Oops did it again.

 

Empty promises. HOW are they going to cut on government. HOW are they going to cut spending.

 

While they have "skin in the game" it isn't always clear to them why.

 

Answer: They won't, especially while calling for more wars. Elect anybody but RP and watch the debt skyrocket.

RP is calling fro $1Trillion in cuts the first year. People think that's too much, but what they don't realize is that will still leave us with a budget deficit. Our debt will still be growing. That's how bad things are.

How much more debt can we incur without more credit downgrades and the higher interest rates that will come with that? Come election time, we will be $16 trillion in debt with more on the horizon. Major cuts HAVE to be made.

 

And are you suggesting we get a clearer perspective from the MSM?

10 years of war is enough for any country. It's time for some sanity. We're going broke with this policy. It has no moral justification and doesn't make us safer.

 

Not at all! The MSM or really any media out there twists their stories to help their personal beliefs. My point is the Administration NEVER tells us the whole story.

 

You are right, he is a fiscal conservative. Not a Christian Jihadist CONservative hell bent on oppression and war fare. Can't be fiscally responsible while dropping bombs all around the world and making government bigger.

 

You are correct. In spite of the fact I agree with many of the things Paul says, he sounded like an old, shrill woman! Paul lost the debate badly.

Newt did the best job with Perry second.

 

What are you yakking about...where exactly did anyone ago e you claim he was going to win SC?

 

So its not what he says its how it sounds. Good to know you care about what is truly important <sarcasm>

 

So he, in your mind, lost the debate because of his voice...even though you agree with many of the things he said?

Can you spell 'incredibly superficial'.

America is falling apart and you are basing your political ideas on voice quality?

No wonder America is falling apart...and I am dead serious.

 

Even if they could they wouldn't understand what that means or what they are doing, or what you mean by that.

Yep!!!

 

He did not lose because of voice quality at all. He lost because he seemed lost during some of the questioning. He could not articulate his thoughts at all. Let's face it, Ron Paul is not a person who can bring the country together, he is rather one who will tear it farther apart. He stands strong and unwilling to bend on some of his beliefs. For those of you who think he can shrink the budget his first year in office by one trillion are in a dream world. He couldn't get the backing of anyone at all on that. He does not know or understand he needs to build a base in congress, and with all the years he has served in Congress some 10 years plus, he has been unable to build any real support among his fellow congressmen

 

Okaaaay...I wasn't talking to you in the above post.

But thanks for your opinion based on assumptions and opinions and zero on facts...

Have a nice day.

 

Yup. His "golden rule" psychobabble really won over the crowd...



Fortunately for RP and his fanboys, he picked himself up off the ground and recovered on the domestic fiscal/financial issues...

 

Sorry didn't know it was an A/B conversation on a board, but whatever.

Zero facts,

Name just ONE thing that Ron Paul has penned in Congress where he got any real support. Not something he jumped on, something HE did.

Fact: He lost the debate last night, for the first time in all these debates, he actually looked scared, almost like he had something to lose. HE DID

Opinion: Yes this country is falling apart partly because someone like Ron Paul is playing a spoiler role, he knew and knows there is not one chance in hell he could win the nomination, this is nothing more than his egotistical mind and agenda at work. So he retires from congress, bet he not one time will refuse his pension from congress.

 

Good visual of the direction the country is headed if we elect based on the lesser of two evils yet again. Assured if anybody but Paul is the next president from the cast of corporate clowns.

 

He passed zip in Congress because he had zip public support for almost all those years. Werechecto win the POTUS, that means he has tons of support.


And you say it's a 'fact' that he lost the debate?

Okaaaaay....facts need stats/unbiased evidence to back them up.

Where is yours?

Mine is the first post in this thread that he did not lose the debate, btw.

 

Once again, that was a visual depiction of RP's "golden rule" faceplant, which alternated between senile and clueless. Somebody needs to sit Paul down and force him to read Qutb's Milestones, for crissakes...

 

I missed the debate, so if someone does find it on YouTube or Fox please let me know. That being said, I think Paul is the only candidate that if elected would make me want to vote 3rd party. I prefer Gingrich.

 

Try to use some common sense to realize that the perception most voters get of a person's looks, voice, age etc affect that candidate's electability.
I'm probably deeper in my thinking than you and your buddys will ever be.

 

Nice try but big time fail. Paul is the only one who is not on the cronyism capitalism payroll. He "IS" our only hope at this point, but people like you are being played to assume otherwise.


Sad part is you will not accept your responsibility when the republican nominee turns out to be Bush Part III, and Obummer Part II. You will blame it on something else as usual.

 

Here's Paul's "golden rule" faceplant and a link Gingrich's response below...

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ltRTLNZmmfs&feature=player_embedded"]Ron Paul Booed For Mentioning Golden Rule Then Cheered - SC Debate 1-16-2012 - YouTube[/ame]

Newt Dropkicks Paul: 'That's Utterly Irrational'
http://nation.foxnews.com/newt-gingrich/2012/01/17/newt-drop-kicks-paul-thats-utterly-irrational

I'm not sure if there's a full video of the debate available, PatriotNews, but Fox hosted it and they've got some videos posted on their site...