Marvel is changing Captain American to a BLACK man !

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  1. Channe

    Channe Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    There's a new Captain America coming to town.

    Sam Wilson, Captain America's longtime partner The Falcon, will be replacing Steve Rogers this fall in the comic book series, Marvel Chief Creative Officer Joe Quesada revealed on Comedy Central’s "The Colbert Report" Wednesday night.

    "Well if there is one bird associated with America, it is the falcon," Colbert remarked.

    Wilson will officially take on the cowl and shield in "All-New Captain America #1" by Rick Remender and Stuart Immonen.

    Colbert addressed the fact that Wilson is black, to which Quesada said, "I don't see colors." This prompted Colbert to ask, "If you don't see colors, how do you do comic books?"

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    According to The Hollywood Reporter, Wilson is the second former sidekick to take on the Captain America identity in the past decade, and will be the seventh character to use the name in Marvel continuity.

    “I’ve been having a lot of fun writing Sam," Remender said in a Marvel.com interview. "It’s a completely different attitude. The fact that he’s not a soldier shifts things up a bit. Sam’s not going to be Steve. Steve can be very rigid. That can be kind of joyless at times, whereas Sam is absolutely not that.”


    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/07/17/new-captain-america_n_5593837.html

    My take - WTF ? There is no need to do this. Create a new black character if you want, but don't change just to appease the PC crowd ! Another example is Spawn who is a black character. He should always be played by a black man because that is the original character. They are destroying the very things I grew up on and knew to love. And for what ? So a bunch of hyper whiny far left wing morons in California can feel good about themselves ?!

    Now, I realize that Captain America is a revolving door of a character, and not a set identity as Batman or Superman. But, I don't feel this is happening randomly. The dude kinda looks like Obama, for crying out loud ! PC is destroying America, and I say this as a proud logical liberal !
     
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    Not sure I agree with your assessment.

    What is wrong with a black superhero, and as you stated, CA is a revolving role that changes as they die off and not a permanent fixture like Superman or Batman. Hell, CA may be a woman one day for a time even.

    Blacks are just as much a part of our society as anyone else so I do not think this is political correctness at all.

    PC would be making the Green Lantern a raging homosexual.

    Now that was a mistake.
     
  3. Channe

    Channe Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    fair point, but i don't like change for the sake of appeasement.
    i go back to Spawn - who to me should always be played by a black man for consistency.

    it's like changing the Ninja turtles to Karate turtles - it just comes off unoriginal.
     
  4. RichT2705

    RichT2705 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Marvel is loading up on stupid these days.

    Yesterday I heard Thor is being changed to a Woman, and now Captain America needs to be a Black guy?

    They couldnt just offer up a new Black superhero, or Heroine for these percieved needs?


    Going right down the PC crapper since Disney bought them.
     
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    Channe Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    they are taking advantage of the revolving door nature of both Thor and Captain America.
    Thor as a female character is full retard.
     
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    As memory serves, this was first done with Iron Man... I don't see it as new, or novel... or offensive on any level. They are, as you said, revolving characters.

    I just don't understand the outrage... this from a logical conservative.

    Falcon is a long time partner... and... his character sucks. Who do you propose as an alternative new Capn?
     
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    I think both of these changes are. I dont understand the need to change characters who are established already. Captain America and Thor are two of Marvels well established characters...you dont just change stuff like this for (*)(*)(*)(*)s and giggles.

    I hope their readership tanks. Im so tired of Political Correctness.
     
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    Channe Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I'm sorry, but Thor as a female is completely wrong.
    Thor, to me, has always been and should always be a white, Nordic, male character.
     
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    I can only imagine the heads that are going to explode around here......
     
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    Agreed. God of thunder, not Goddess according to real world Mythos. That change just doesn't work.

    Honestly, I see this as a futile effort on their part to capture Women readers. Women simply dont read comics as much as guys do. They arent going to start enjoying the medium simply because of a gender change on Thor.

    There have been plenty of strong female characters past and present...and yet Marvel still sees a Male dominated market. The people who will suffer are the loyal fans of Thor who have been buying the book for decades.
     
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    Captain America is not the first hero to be replaced with someone else. Their's Green Lantern and the Flash both who have several people to have filled the roles before. Not to mention there was a time the Winter Soldier took over the role of Captain America after Steve was killed. I don't really see this this as an issue because of it. Besides, who better to take over the role then a trusted friend?
     
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    Thor is being changed to a woman? I'm going to have to wait until I hear more on that one to believe it myself but it's a completely stupid idea. Thor is a person, not an identity.
     
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    I read somewhere that next season Thor was going transgender, or some thing. Not that I care but... {wrote that before reading other comments}

    ...your statement of 'comes off unoriginal' hits the nail - top down bottom up. There's become a lack of originality in characters whether comics, TV, movies, politics... So, let's change something and RE-market. For the bucks.

    Best part of being an aging boomer is moving on past all that. At least we've got air conditioning.
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    Yup.

    http://www.cbsnews.com/news/marvel-reimagines-thor-as-a-woman/



    Sorry Channe, not trying to derail your Captain America thread....but it seemed like Cap and Thor are a matching set in regards to this topic, both being well established characters who are being changed for no real need.
     
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    Channe Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    enjoy the insanity of far left PC stupidity

    http://time.com/2987940/thor-female/
     
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    It really doesn't make sense to change Captain America to a black man, given the Captain America story continuity...

    But if Marvel wants to change the continuity for continuity's sake, go for it...
     
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    So, I went back and looked up the link...

    Marvel Proudly Presents Thor

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    Amerigo Vespucci would be so proud to have a tranny nation named after him

    :roflol:
     
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    That is just all kinds of stupid. Not much of a Thor fan myself but their's no need for that. Like some have said, create a new hero. This is just an insult to the fans who have dedicated themselves to the character.

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    The only way this works is if it's an alternate reality. Otherwise I see no reason to do this.
     
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    And the worst part of it is , that this is not going to work. Females arent going to all of a sudden start buying comics...thats already been shown to be the case. Todays PC world thinks everyone wants the same stuff....but Women, by and large, dont read comics like Guys do.

    Some things ARE more interesting for Men and some things ARE more interesting for Women. It's tough for todays PC world to accept that, and they make bad decisions like this one thinking it will bring in Female readers.

    It wont. Women have had no shortage of characters to read if they wanted that....numbers show they havent.
     
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    I collect DC, but frankly I do not see a problem here. Captain America Changes so I do not see why a black man cannot embody America and take up the Shield. With Thor it is all about being worthy of the hammer. I believe in a cross over Wonder Woman picked up the hammer and became Thor (I need to check that). But Either way some one picks it up and is worthy they change into Thor. THis is a non issue since Marvel ages and kills off the characters so that new people can take up the role.


    Yep just checked Wonder Woman was the first female Thor
     
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    Dear god.....what if they go after Gambit!? No. Just please no.
     
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    Funny that you never see any Female Characters "changing " to Male, or any of the established Black characters "changing " to White though. It's always the same Politically Correct direction on these changes.
     
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    Crossovers aren't considered canon. They're just more or less eye candy and fun what if scenarios.

    I'm fine with the Captain America change but with Thor it's like I said, it's his identity. It's the guys actual name. He is Thor.
     
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    Ultimately, I would bet she hasn't got the balls for it.
     
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    I am just surprised they have not turned all the superheroes into homosexuals yet.
     

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