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Marvel is changing Captain American to a BLACK man !

Discussion in 'Member Casual Chat' started by Channe, Jul 17, 2014.

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  1. JavisBeason

    JavisBeason New Member

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    wow... how bold and progressive to make such a move that is such a statement....



    ..... 20 years late
     
    JavisBeason, Aug 20, 2014
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  2. Taxpayer

    Taxpayer Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Green Lantern, Superman, Spider Man... these are pretty well established characters.






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    Taxpayer, Aug 20, 2014
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  3. Montoya

    Montoya Banned

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    Granted I'm not a comic book buff but I the only black superhero I can think of off the top of my head is Blade.
     
    Montoya, Aug 20, 2014
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  4. Lil Mike

    Lil Mike Well-Known Member

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    There are or were several human Green Lanterns so it's not the same thing. Green Lantern didn't turn black. Another human character got chosen.

    The Lanterns are always hiring and they have an active diversity program.
     
    Lil Mike, Aug 20, 2014
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  5. a sound mind

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    so awesome to see all these conservatives coming to the realization that everything they love (organizations, businesses etc.) doesn't subscribe to their archaic opinions when it comes to non-white races, non-heterosexual lifestyles etc....

    now they can't even read marvel anymore because they have a black CA :roflol:
     
    a sound mind, Aug 20, 2014
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  6. justonemorevoice

    justonemorevoice Well-Known Member

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    Aye yi yi. Human versions...are still based on cartoons. Ever read i am legend? I sure didnt picture will smith.

    - - - Updated - - -

    No kidding. :grin:

    What a "dark" world for them.
     
    justonemorevoice, Aug 20, 2014
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  7. Taxpayer

    Taxpayer Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    ... to replace the current green lantern of earth (space sector #2014). Like Sam Wilson is getting tapped to replace the current Captain America. But no, Hal Jordan didn't turn black... anymore than Steve Rogers did.




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    Taxpayer, Aug 20, 2014
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  8. RichT2705

    RichT2705 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Aaaaand as stated....they are all White characters.

    None of them were Black characters that turned White. Pretty simple. Not sure what you are missing here....​
     
    RichT2705, Aug 20, 2014
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  9. RichT2705

    RichT2705 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Forgot about him, but yup. Another solid established Black character. You'll never see him do a Nick Fury.
     
    RichT2705, Aug 20, 2014
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  10. Taxpayer

    Taxpayer Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    John Stewart was black, replaced by Kyle Rayner (who was white). Amazing Spider Man #252 was the black spider man, and the man of steel was black (Adventures of Superman #500). Spider Man and Superman are both white today.





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    Taxpayer, Aug 20, 2014
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  11. RichT2705

    RichT2705 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Still missing the point. Heres an idea....google out the first issue of those comics, and tell me what color those characters were established as and stop the nonsense.

    As an example, you do NOT get to start at Spiderman 252...ignoring everything prior...and say Spiderman is a Black hero. Spiderman was always a White hero....who as we see, are able to be swapped in and out at will, while the Blades..Falcons...powermans etc...will stay as they were created.

    Google them out, let me know what you find...Ill wait.​
     
    RichT2705, Aug 20, 2014
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  12. Willys

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    Marvel lost me when I hit puberty... and the pages started sticking together.
     
    Willys, Aug 20, 2014
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  13. RichT2705

    RichT2705 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    :mrgreen:

    The art sure has taken an ....evolution hasn't it?
     
    RichT2705, Aug 20, 2014
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  14. Taxpayer

    Taxpayer Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The original black Power Man Luke Cage or the Hispanic (Dominican) Power Man Victor Alvarez (current)?




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    Taxpayer, Aug 20, 2014
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  15. RichT2705

    RichT2705 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Actually the ORIGINAL hero to use the name "Powerman" was a Caucasian named Erik Josten ....then Luke Cage (the most well known, and Best one) Now as to victor Alvarez....

    Wow, what a change! :giggle: They went from White...to Black...to a Black Hispanic....


    Wake me when the current Power Man is changed to a Swedish American with Pale "Caucasian" skin. (not going to happen)

    Thanks for at least dropping that other nonsense like Superman and Spiderman...


    I'll check back later, going to go play some Nosgoth.
     
    RichT2705, Aug 20, 2014
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    Marvel stopped bothering with continuity back in the late 80s. They have rebooted almost all of their superheros repeatedly by now.

    The Falcon and Captain America have a long history together, he was a natural pick to fill the boots.

    Give it a year or two and the original Captain America will be back, most likely souped up with an even more powerful version of the super soldier serum.
     
    TBryant, Aug 20, 2014
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  17. Taxpayer

    Taxpayer Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Eirk Josten was a villain. Who later became Goliath (taking on the title from Bill Foster, who was black) and fighting Iron Man (James Rhodes, who was black).

    Erik lost.




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    Taxpayer, Aug 20, 2014
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  18. Tahuyaman

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    Will Al Sharpton say this new Captain America is an Uncle Tom?
     
    Tahuyaman, Aug 20, 2014
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    Nah, but were he real then he might just try and sell him some nose candy; keeping his hand in the drug trade just in case the race-baiting and race-agitating gig ever goes belly up on him.
     
    Gatewood, Aug 20, 2014
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  20. Angrytaxpayer

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    This is garbage! I'd be pissed if they changed Blade to a white man!
     
    Angrytaxpayer, Aug 20, 2014
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  21. RichT2705

    RichT2705 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Correct he was a villian....but created in 1965 was the first person to be called "Power Man". Luke Cage took this name in 1972. In either case, this is yet another example which reinforces my statement.
    Black Heroes, (IE Heroes who were created as Black characters), dont turn White, while the reverse is becoming pretty common.


    As to Goliath....sigh....here we go again.

    and..

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goliath_(comics)

    Another swing and a miss Im afraid Taxpayer. Goliath was also originally White, and in usual fashion in comics, someone else stepped in and borrowed the name for a bit...
    Same as James Rhodes. The reader always knew it was someone standing in for the original hero.

    These were not Black Superheroes to begin with.


    Seeing the pattern I claimed yet? It's getting stale as a concept. If Marvel wants to mix it up a bit....make Black Panther a White Guy for a stretch.​
     
    RichT2705, Aug 21, 2014
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  22. RichT2705

    RichT2705 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Exactly, but dont worry.....thats not going to happen. Some characters are off the table when it comes to changes like this.
     
    RichT2705, Aug 21, 2014
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  23. RichT2705

    RichT2705 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Probably right about that. I hope so. I like the original character, his backstory really fits nicely with the persona.
     
    RichT2705, Aug 21, 2014
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  24. kill_the_troll

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    Times are changing there's no wonder about it... soon we will probably have a gay hero. Think that the mighty Achilles actually was bisexual...
     
    kill_the_troll, Aug 21, 2014
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  25. RichT2705

    RichT2705 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Oh that ones already been happening. There was a Gay Green Lantern, a Gay member of Alpha Flight....probably more too. I havent read comics as much over the last decade as I used to, so may have slipped behind a bit. But rest assured, all the "protected" classes are there.


    Marvels going to have a hard time though beating Ace and Gary from SNL...

    https://screen.yahoo.com/ambiguously-gay-duo-fortress-privacy-000000518.html
     
    RichT2705, Aug 21, 2014
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