Frankly I do not think so. I would vote in a heart beat for a real conservative, however I think the Socialists have won control of the country and have given enough tax money away such that the traditional American value of pulling oneself up by ones own bootstraps, is dead.
You might be right... it may be over. 2016 will be the decider. If the pendulum does not swing I will agree that we hit the tipping point.
You are saying a couple of different things here, that you might separate out. Apparently it is true that the social conservatives are dominating the Republican party. The TP Republicans may talk about cutting costs, but when given the choice of eliminating abortion or eliminating the deficit, it's a slam dunk. And the other main rallying point for the TP folks is Obama. They DESPISE him, in a deeply personal way, all out of proportion to anything he does or proposes. In 2016, that motivation will be largely moot. Problem is, once again, illustrated with the party primaries. We watched with amusement as Romney struggled to decouple himself from Romneycare (which has been a big success), and reposition himself as deeply conservative, opposed to nearly every policy he championed as MA governor. And he did this because his opponents like Santorum and Perry and Huckabee and Bachmann were all competing to see how high a stack of bibles they could stand on. To win a Republican primary, one MUST be an extremist. And so once nominated, we watched with amusement as Romney hustled back toward the center to try to attract moderate votes. Swing voters were not fooled. But what this illustrates is that the nation itself seems to becoming polarized. Republican candidates cannot win nomination without the support of the fanatics, because they represent about 1/3 of the people. But to win fanatic votes is to alienate if not downright frighten the moderates (and all the Democrats). And so nominatable Republicans can't be electable Republicans. The national view sees the TP folks as extreme, rigid, non-compromising, all-ideology, bible-pounding haters whose primary platform (just below the veneer) is to cram what they think their god demands down the throat of everyone else. It's a scary prospect for the majority. When such people have gotten into power elsewhere, the results have been ruthless, vicious, and pious. The American melting pot replaced by "drag all them foreign-looking wierdos back where they came from" thugs. And THAT is the view the TP has to overcome, to achieve national office. And rather than trying to recognize it and do something to change it (as McCain does), the TP folks wallow in it. If only they can get into office, they can go after those hateful liberals (everyone else) and make them SUFFER! They cream themselves just dreaming about it.
Your portrayal of the TEA Party is a joke. Their top leadership is nothing as you and the DailyKos, MSNBC, ThinkProgress goons describe them. 1. Ted Cruz (Senator-Texas) 2. Rand Paul (Senator - Kentucky) 3. Sarah Palin (Ex-Governor - Alaska) 4. Bobby Jindal (Governor - Louisiana) 5. Nikki Haley (Governor - South Carolina) 6. John Kasich (Governor - Ohio) 7. Mike Lee (Senator - Utah) 8. Mike Pence (Governor - Indiana) 9. Tim Scott (Senator - South Carolina) 10. Paul Broun (Congressman - Georgia) They are not driven by religion, they are not racist (only 5 white males), they are not what you claim. You have built a straw-man argument. In fact from the same TEA Party site, your whole false premise is destroyed. I will follow the sites direction and share it with you: "What the TEA Party Stands For: 1. The TEA Party is about fiscal responsibility. That means to stop taxing and spending at unsustainable levels. 2. The TEA Party is about stopping Government Growth. 3. The TEA Party is about the U.S. Constitution. That means we follow what made the United States the greatest country on Earth. The TEA Party is not about: social issues (unless they conflict with the aforementioned three statements). The next time someone tells you the TEA Party is about: religion, abortion, civil rights, etc... tell them they are wrong and kindly refer them to this site." Learn more yourself here -> TEA Party News & Report Welcome back to reality.
We had a Moderate Conservative candidate in Romney. He was articulate and charming. He also had very good economic credentials. Given that the President Obama was presiding over a failed economic policy that had the "real" unemployment rate in double digits. Romney lost soundly. Mean while even though the policy of the government doling out free cell phones and giving away 30% of the government controlled General Motors stock to the Auto Union. For me it is a demented alternative universe. Some strange fiction that could never have come true.
See my signature line... that is your alternative universe my friend. Our schools have quit teaching the children what it means to be an American. It means the ability to go as far as your hard work will take you... not to live off others hard work. This is all by design. Liberals took over education, bureaucracies, and the media to push Marxism. The game plan was very effective. They will have an issue as the young grow up and realize what was stolen from them.
Deaf people that were born deaf do not feel they are missing something. In fact Deaf people when they have children, worry that their hearing children will miss out in the "richness" of the deaf community.
And it takes brains to recognize that an ideology will get nowhere without popular support, and that it's better to take what you can get when your viewpoints become unpopular. Otherwise you end up like the libertarians in American (or, indeed, any other) politics - marginalized, tiny, and ignored. And a lot of republican positions are not popular. The "moral majority" is on its way out, and very little of the new generation finds that to be a problem. Beyond acting as the morality police and standing against gay marriage, gay rights, women's rights/bodily autonomy, what's left? Ah. Right. Hating Obama, making literally 40 symbolic votes against Obamacare, drumming up fake scandal after fake scandal, and threatening to shut down government because they can't get their way. That's not a governing party, that's a petulant child, screaming because its friends decided they don't want to hang out with him. And don't get me started on the Tea party. Those guys are not just a national but also an international laughing stock.
....with conservatives. And all conservative positions are not popular with the Jurassic media, which you absorb by the bucketful. Catering to the looters and moochers is certain doom. Enjoy!
wow, look what happens to a republican that thinks for themselves and wants to put America first.... Christie, McCain.... their party turns on them like a pack of wolves
the standard of living for the average American has gotten worse and worse since the Nixon era of big-business and Reagan's trickle down BS got put into play. America voted for Obama twice because they realize that Wal-Mart and off shore accounts for the wealthiest Americans haven't and won't help them.
exactly - guys like Christie and McCain are true Reagan republicans. it is a shame how the GOP has been taken over by sociopaths who have convinced millions of Americans into voting against their best interest.
I disagree. If ones ideology is the correct one, a person should not change his ideology simply to be on the winning side. In 1936 Germans who did not have the ideology of Nazism should not have changed their thinking simply to be on the winning side. All of this socialism that the Democrat party has been pushing is wrong. That very same thing is what has caused Europe to be in such a terrible economic situation that it exists in today. Its the cause of Greece's turmoil, yet we march towards it.
You suggest the problem is rooted in Nixon and Reagan? I say you need to take one step back from them and look at Johnson and Carter. I'll take Nixon and Reagans upwardly moving economy over Carter's stagnant economy and Johnson's Vietnam war debacle any time.
upward moving ? what a joke. the idea of trickle down has DESTROYED America's middle class. there is no evidence to support the notion that guys like Romney created any more jobs than they normally would have had he not been paying the ridiculously low 15% on the millions he makes off interest alone while millions of Americans work for below-poverty wages. give it a rest - it's over, the era of neo conservatism is done with. Obama won TWICE - do you have any clue how much the nation thinks the GOP sucks that they couldn't beat a half-black guy with a Muslim father and an Arab name in between two wars against Muslim nations - one which had a leader of the same name Hussein and the other one letter away from Obama/Osama. even though the racism is 99% on the GOP side, you'd think GOP policies alone would have demanded a victory, but they couldn't even pull that off ! EPIC FAIL, FAIL IS EPIC
Its funny to me that the Democrats put so mush animosity towards this phrase "trickle down". All economies around the world have this trickle down effect. It exists, its real. If Obama is your man and he is the champion of the opposite of trickle down (what ever that is), then why do black teenagers have an unemployment rate today of about 40%?
the lack of jobs can be due to the GOP love of big business and outsourcing, paying people below poverty wages, and "trimming the fat" in companies. the other issue is technology which has made the work of many unnecessary. back in America's better days, the top 15% richest were paying nearly 40% in taxes, the middle class was paying the lowest, and minimum wage was nearing $12/hr (adjusted for inflation).
trickle down economics from the republicans meant giving huge tax cuts to the rich in hopes they would give the rest of America a golden shower to years of trickle down economics and here we are... .
Sure tax cuts to the rich because there were tax cuts for ALL people who paid taxes. This creates trickle down.
So your man Obama is in his second term but the unemployment rate sucks. It especially sucks for black teens It is the worse unemployment rate they have ever experienced. Obama owns this economy. Its his economy. Why do black teens have an unemployment rate today of over 40%?
I'm trying to describe the perception of the Tea Party to those outside it, from moderates to left-wingers. From the inside, ANY organization is going to look reasonable and worthy. When you have several influential organizations saying the same bad things about you, you are at the very least not doing a good job of creating a correct impression. So poll them. How many favor same-sex marriage? How many support a woman's right to abortion? How many support stem cell research? None of them? Imagine that. How fiscal of them! Yes, I know. I addressed that. There have been many extended analyses of the TP rank and file, and it turns out they all got the memo. Social issues are the glue holding them together. None of them want to see cuts in government programs that benefit them. But they ALL want to make abortion illegal. Most of them are evangelicals. You can bleat about what they CLAIM they stand for all day long. But that's not what the voters really care about. You're welcome. I'm sure I could find a Democratic assurance that the Democratic Party is for fiscal responsibility as well. Would you accept that as "reality", or would you look at the same thing I do, which is what these people DO, not what they say.
Do you understand why the supercommittee failed? Remember the negotiations? Democrats: We'll trade you, one dollar in extra taxes for one dollar in expense reductions. Republicans: NO taxes. Reductions only. Democrats (Obama, actually): OK, we'll give you THREE dollars in reductions for one dollar in taxes. Republicans: NO taxes. Reductions only. Remember that? Now, I agree that Obama kept all three wars going, and money is still going into Iraq. Afghanistan and the war on drugs are still going strong, and I feel somewhat betrayed that he has not made a good-faith effort to end these. On the other hand, as things stand, Obama could propose applehood and mother pie, and the House Republicans would vote unanimously against it.
