More Unfair Persecution of Christians

Unless they're collecting donations, this seems like a ridiculous fine.

 

that graphic is false.

over a 3rd of the world is hindu

Over a 4th is muslim

 

Its more likely a representation of the US, as a nation that has a large majority of Christians. As well as being the country where this occurred.

 

You've dodged my question with an inane persecution complex generality. Let me ask again and we'll see if you continue to dodge.

How are YOU oppressed by Christianity?

 

So how have you been discriminated against?

And seriously, your definition of "oppressed" is having to buy an extra six pack on Saturday? Wow. The horror!

 

whats it got to do with the state if a bunch of law abiding citizens have some friends over to for some law abiding social time?

 

Well based simply upon the article you posted, it is clear this is not "persecution of Christians' since the ordinance does not appear to discriminate against which kinds of house of worship are prohibitted.

I think it is a rather silly waste of the cities time and money, but it is not as if these people have no recourse. Besides the judiciary- this sounds like an ordinance that would be rather easy to repeal by ballot measure.

Of course that means there would be no recourse when those Muslims or Hindu's or Satan worshippers or whatever decide to set up their church in someone's home.

 

About a month ago I tried to buy alcohol in the evening during a Sunday.
Also I don't drink nearly so much that I get an extra thing the night before. It is an inconvenience imposed upon people because of religion. I would certainly take that over the hatred toward atheists, the barring from offices, as well as the discrimination that happens to so many others in so many aspects of their lives.
But your right I don't really get the full force of the discriminatory power of religion, like say homosexuals. Id say I am pretty lucky on the scale, but that far from justifies it, it just shows how deep the problem runs that people think it is ok.

 

Do they have enough parking to accommodate all those people? Obviously not. They are blocking up the road and probably their neighbors parking. Obviously someone from the neighborhood complained if the city found out they are holding these meetings.

But really...all I hear is WHAAAAA!

Christians are by no means oppressed in this country. In fact, they really need to ease up off some minorities.

 

Fine by me.

 

I guess cristians don't pay politiican enough money to have religious wars.

 

I don't care if gays marry. But it seems this is not a religious / Conservative thing. California has voted down gay marriage twice now. That's not a state that is know for being religious or Conservative (except ironically, OC). So hmmm.
In any case, that is one area in which I would agree religion should not be involved in helping Big Government regulate people's private lives.
But thus far, all I've heard is you couldn't buy some beer one day. Not quite up there with being kept out of schools, jobs or whatever.

 

I'm sorry, but what's the point? Certainly, you aren't so totally ignorant that you would fail to realize that majorities have often been oppressed by dictatorial minorities.

 

It says they have "regular meetings on Sunday mornings and Thursday afternoons with up to 50 people, with impacts on the residential neighborhood on street access and parking."

Sunday mornings? Sounds like a church, not a Bible-study group. How much do you want to bet if the IRS came knocking they would insist their written-off home expenses were for a "church"?

These types of regulations generally offend my libertarian viewpoint, but these people really have no claim that the enforcement of the offense is improper or unfair.

 

Probably defies the deed restrictions as well.. For instance you couldn't raise hogs or chickens or run a kennel in a residential neighborhood either.

 

Saddam Hussein did it....

 

Well, Christians are being killed in muslim countrys, and their governments view that as "business as usual" for infidels.

 

That is great, but unfortunately many religious do and actively fight against it because of their religion, the effects are readily observable. As for california, that does not quite show that religion is not responsible, not only is that simply one state but:
"California has the most Roman Catholics in the U.S., ahead of New York state. It also has the largest Mormon population outside of Utah.
The religious affiliations of the people of California:[21]
Protestant – 33%
Baptist – 4%
Presbyterian – 3%
Methodist – 2%
Roman Catholic – 33%
LDS – 2%
Jewish – 2%
Muslim – 1%
Other Religions – 4%
Non-Religious/ Atheist/ Agnostic – 25%
A Pew Research Center survey revealed, however, that California is less religious than the rest of the United States: 62% of Californians say they are "absolutely certain" of the belief in God, while in the nation 71% say so. The survey also revealed that 48% of Californians say religion is "very important", while the figure for the U.S. in general is 56%."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_California
It is still dominated by religion.


As I have already noted, it does not have to be about my specific ordeals. It is just as wrong when it happens to someone else, though your acceptance of blue laws right after saying "In any case, that is one area in which I would agree religion should not be involved in helping Big Government regulate people's private lives" is disheartening.

Other people have had wrongful terminations due to being an atheist.
http://www.sullivan-county.com/news/pat_quotes/atheist_fired.htm
They are the most hated group in the country and that shows.
http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/story?id=1786422&page=1
Barred from some public offices in certain states (Though it would most likely not hold up in court)
http://urlybits.com/2011/04/atheists-banned-from-holding-public-office-in-seven-states/
Though it really does not matter as confessing to be an atheist is pretty much political suicide anyway, linking back to being the most hated minority.
They are not allowed in groups such as the BSA, which is otherwise a wonderful organization for youth.
Hell the country feels compelled to allow the "Under God"phrase to continue to be used and our recent leadership even used phrases such as "No, I don't know that atheists should be considered as citizens, nor should they be considered patriots. This is one nation under God."

Instead of brushing it off, why don't you support them in their fight for acceptance and equality?

 

Not the case in this example though. The chart exemplifies this case just fine.

 

And what does that have to do with anything we are discussing?

 

So you disagree that this a huge constitutional violation?

No we don't.

Indifference is just another evil.

How is meeting in someone's home shoving it down people's throats or oppressing people?

 

This was discussed in another thread, but get off your cross, no one is stopping you from practicing your religion. There are no protests outside my church.

 

There is no constitutional violation here. No where in the constitution is the right to turn your residential home into a church enshrined. Sorry, this isn't a first amendment issues. Its a county ordinance issue. These people are blocking up a residential road, and if it got reported, obviously all of their neighbors aren't happy with the situation.

 

The churches will be significantly impacting this 2012 voting cycle. Should be interesting.

 

I'm Christian, but I wouldn't want a Bible study with 50 people in it across the street on a bi-weekly basis. IMHO, that makes it a church. They need to go somewhere zoned for a church.