Moscow summons US ambassador

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  1. cristiansoldier

    cristiansoldier Well-Known Member

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    You realize you are saying this while in Russia political activist and opponent Navalny was imprisoned and later poisoned.
     
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    Breaking up Russia, American public is ok with the plan. American public supported the cold war, overwhelm American public supported Reagan cold war victory. American public supported every president’s policy toward Russia since Regan. Majority Americans did not like Trump’s policy toward Russia , that is why Trump is not president any more.

    Majority Democrat ( except for AOC and few lefties) support what Biden and NATO doing. Majority Republican support Ukraine and wants defeated Russia. May be you should see Mitch McConne or Mitt Romney’s speech about Russia.

    Don’t confuse 20% Americans ( MAGA supporters ) as all Americans.
     
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    yangforward Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    There are Americans who have morals and there are Americans who don't consider dicing with death to be their favorite hobby, or even what is best for their families.

    I have children and that is why my attitude is different from the destroy-Russia-as-that-is-our-purpose-in-life, mob.
     
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    Yea, which is an example of a terrible decision.
     
  5. Endeavor

    Endeavor Well-Known Member

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    Oh now you want to play “holier than thou” game. Have a nice day.
     
  6. Destroyer of illusions

    Destroyer of illusions Banned

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    "In a healthy democracy" it is customary to deceive the UN by shaking a test tube with washing powder, after which they begin to bomb a sovereign country and hang the legally elected presidents of that country.
     
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    Russians do spit about your demands. Washington Madmen can't do anything. Washington Madmen are politically bankrupt. Only Russia can demand. Humble yourself.
     
  8. AmericanNationalist

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    And the majority of Americans are dumb. Fighting this war over Ukraine(and it's an ideological and a symbolic war for Biden, who made the quagmire about him and the 'fight against autocracy') is absolutely moronic. And at a time where the Two Eastern Powers(China and Russia) had an uneasy relationship, but we've pushed China closer and closer to Russia, and we have now made the war hot.

    Antagonizing both sides of the East is foolish and against our objectives. In the event of a global conflict, do we believe the undermanned European Union would suffice as an ally? The very reason the European Union has dragged us into this war is because they themselves are incapable of fighting it.

    If we are to fight a hot war with anybody, it should be China who has succeeded in its long term ambitions with economics, logistics and spying. Naked aggression against the US, almost with impunity now. The 'who we are' crowd can fight its ideological war with Russia, that is China's preference as they continue to gain in strength unabated.

    Quite to the contrary of the whole 'we have to do this to show we'll protect Taiwan', in reality our resources drained in the Eurasia war will leave the Taiwanese more vulnerable and all the Chinese have to wait for is for us to be even more bogged down.
     
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    It'll replace one military dictator, with another military dictator(all accounts by the planning of the Ukraine invasion, the military brass's top officials were all aboard.). The West also has to give up this hope for 'Russian democracy', it's even more unlikely than Afghanistan democracy.
     
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    The fact that the war would go beyond the borders of Ukraine was immediately clear. And as you understand, the reason is not a special love for Ukraine (the United States bombed Yugoslavia without any problems, as well as a number of other countries). All wars are about the economy. And the term "ALL" is not a figure of speech, but a reality.
    It is for the population to come up with reasons (religious, national, racial ... etc.) to force the herd to die for the interests of the ruling class. But the ruling class itself understands very well that the reason is the economy.
    And if you look at the key indicators, you will see that in the US and in Europe the economy is on the verge of collapse. All positive indicators are created artificially, mainly due to the giant infusion of freshly printed money. And it has been going on like this since 2008. I believe that it all started much earlier, with the Reagan policy. At one time, by transferring the main indicators from real production to the stock markets, Reagan simply postponed the collapse. Then the collapse of the USSR and the emergence of a huge number of new markets and cheap labor saved the situation .... In general, this was enough for 30 years.
    I would illustrate this policy with the image of a multi-storey building - the first floor caught fire, but the residents, instead of extinguishing and taking adequate measures, simply moved to the floor above, the flame reached the second floor - the residents left for the third .... etc.
    But the fact is that sooner or later, but the roof will be reached - there is nowhere to go and it is impossible to escape. Today the world economy is on the roof. And the fire is getting closer.
     
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    You write nonsense.
    One example - Louis Vuitton will disappear, no one will notice, but Gazprom will leave - there will be a collapse.
    The economy of dog groomers and waiters looks beautiful only on charts. States are based on the real economy.
     
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    You are about to lose the Wagner group. Isn't that awesome?!

    https://www.saltwire.com/atlantic-c...cuses-russian-top-brass-of-treason-100826640/

    The one arm of militants that have given Russia gains just called Putin's government out. I'm sure he will have a convenient accident because that's how corrupt governments work.

    Enjoy!
     
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    Does your comment have something to do with defending Russia?
     
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    Do you truly believe what you are told to repeat?

    Everything you just said is pure nonsensible propaganda.
     
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    That discounted gas will help pay for all the damage Russia has cost the rest of the world.
     
  16. Durandal

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    Never say never.
     
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    You are right because Europe is threaten by Russia, US got involve in the war. that is why they are our allies. What is the point being ally if you don’t come to their aid. US stand with Europe unconditionally without reservation. If US foreign policy was as “wise” as yours . we would be alone. Fortunately for America, past 100 years no one took your “ wise” foreign policy advice and no one ever will. Your “wisdom” will die in discussion forum!
     
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    What happened to USSR ? do they teach history in Russia ?
     
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    You exaggerate: Biden only wants war with Russia, China, N.Korea, Iran, Nicaragua, Cuba, Yemen, Egypt, Syria, Somalia, and of course eastern and southern parts of Ukraine.

    I may have missed a few but it is hard to keep count.
     
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    You are reading some nonsense again. I have already told you, but I will repeat it again (suddenly it is difficult for you to understand at once) - do not read the Western media, it is harmful to the brain. Even American presidents know that the Western media is fake news.
    Everything is fine with the head of the Wagner group, today I saw how he congratulates the men of Russia on their holiday.
    You can see for yourself here https://rutube.ru/video/d057999dbe64fbe2b5b3409ac81e49f0/

    And by the way, about Prigogine...
    It's getting harder to hide.
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    Certainly. It was the West that provoked Russia into a special operation with its lies. NATO fooled the Russians by promising not to expand eastward. Just like the US deceived the UN.
     
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    At least you can acknowledge that Russia is NATO's fool.
     
  23. Durandal

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    Nope. Russian "education" consists of indoctrination and brainwashing.
     
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    Except at no point did anyone ever make an agreement abridging the rights of nations to join NATO. You just keep repeating tired, debunked lies. It's as if you're just here to blast out falsehoods, as if from a firehose.

    https://www.rand.org/pubs/perspectives/PE198.html
     
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    I read British, French, American media. Such as the Daily Mail, Times, Figaro, Washington Post, Newsweek...etc. If you're saying they're lying, it's not my fault.
     

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