Most of what you THINK you know about George Floyd is wrong

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  1. DentalFloss

    DentalFloss Well-Known Member

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    As many of you know, I am disabled and as a result unable to work, at least for the time being. This leads to me watching a lot of YouTube & playing a lot of video games. This post is a result of facts that I learned in a video, the link to which is below.

    I'm going to try to bulletize this as much as practical.

    The bottom line: We were lied to, and the truth is not what you think!

    • The Officers who were involved in this case were not 4 white dudes. 2 were white, one was asian, and the actual arresting Officer, who was first on scene, is black.
    • The "autopsy" put forward by Floyd's family and the activists supporting them was done by "doctors" (allegedly) who never even laid eyes on the body.
    • Despite what the press told you, Floyd was not a healthy man. He had a serious heart condition that, by itself, was a bomb waiting to go off, and could have happened at any time.
    • Floyd had a long history with the police, and on one former occasion, had been caught red-handed swallowing street drugs when involved in a traffic stop. Ultimately, he admitted that fact, paramedics were called, and his life was saved.
    • On the day of his death, he also swallowed narcotics, and even before that, as you will see if you're intellectually honest enough to go watch the videos posted below. Sadly and unfortunately for him, he was not forthright on this, and that one factor alone played a larger role in his death than anything else.
    • As you will see on the Officer's body cam footage, that you have never seen before, he was clearly messed up on something even before the cops rolled up.
    • Floyd stated to the police that he was frightened because the last time he was pulled over, the police shot him. This was a lie.
    • He also stated that he was emotionally disturbed (in the casual sense, not clinically) because his mother had just died. In reality, it was almost 2 years to the day since that event.
    • Trace evidence was found in the back of the police car, with DNA from Floyd's saliva and several drugs, including fentanyl.
    • Important, and new information: He had a fatal dose of several drugs in his system at the time, most notably including fentanyl. The amount of fentanyl found in his blood at the REAL autopsy was 19 ng/dl. For reference, a person who does not use opioids on a regular basis would probably die at a level of 3 ng/dl. Someone like me, who uses prescribed opioids on a daily basis, may be able to survive more than that, say a 5-6. FLOYD'S was 19!!! He was a dead man walking even if the cops had never even showed up that ill-fated day.
    • Floyd began complaining about having a hard time breathing, aka shortness of breath, long before he was on the ground. This is a symptom of cardiac distress, caused by the acute opioid intox and the exertion involved in his fighting the police, which you will see him do.
    • There were NO INJURIES TO FLOYD'S NECK per the actual autopsy.
    • You think, because the media wants you to think, the restraint technique used by Chauvin and the other Officer's that day was an authorized technique and all MPD officers were trained to use it. Evidence in the form of actual MPD training manuals was prevented in the films that was disallowed in the trial by the Judge, and I use that term loosely. This was not the only questionable decision made by him during the trial. The technique is called a Max Restraint Technique, or MRT.
    • The Chief of Police and a Police Inspector (a senior rank uniformed officer) perjured themselves when they both testified that the MRT technique was NOT taught to MPD officers, and when shown images of it, they said they'd never seen anything like it.
    • Evidence to that effect was available in MPD training manuals and other material, all of which was excluded by the Judge. You will see those manuals and materials in the second film linked below.
    • Floyd was complaining about an inability to breathe long before he was on the ground, the infamous cellphone video that you've seen dozens of times and that was used in-lieu of the bodycam footage you're about to see, but that bodycam footage was not allowed into evidence by the aforementioned jurist.
    • The autopsy showed conclusively that Floyd was NOT asphyxiated.
    • The fix was in from the moment the mob made it clear that nothing short of a conviction was acceptable, to wit:
      1- The Mayor went on TV to blast his own police department within days if not hours of the event.
      2- The Governor, Speaker of the US House, other members of the House, and even the US President did similar things.
    • Floyd was no hero. He had a record as long as my arm, and while I don't care too much about his drug crimes, he had several convictions for armed robbery and agg assault, and based on what I saw, probably should have been in prison the day in question.
    There's more. A LOT more, as you will soon see. But even if all of the above were all there was, if you are not moved to question the narrative the media and politicians arranged for you to see in the first place, you have zero intellectual honesty. One large example of that is the way the politicians involved ordered the MPD to stand down while the City burned, including the entire 3rd Precinct HQ, which the Mayor refused to defend in any way. The Officers were ordered to stay inside except a few who were outside, but who, under orders, just stood in a line far away from the action and 'observed and reported', taking no action at the behest of their superiors, with the strings being pulled by the Mayor.

    In order to have an ongoing intelligent discussion, you need to watch the videos below, which combine to about 2.5 hours. That is a lot, I realize. But if you take the time, you will probably be as outraged as I am right now. If you're not, there is likely not a single fact that could be presented to you to make you be self-critical to any extent.

    You are probably going to be tempted to slam the first of these videos for coming from Rumble, but literally the first half or more of the video/film are the actual bodycam videos from that day. That alone will probably cause you to have a WTF moment, even if you skip the rest, though I advise against it as there are interviews with people in the know.

    The second video, which I watched first and sent me over to Rumble to watch the documentary, is two black college professors, one of whom had been an outspoken CRITIC of the MPD and had characterized the events as the police murdering Floyd, has changed his mind about his previous position. His name is John McWhorter, that sounds just familiar enough to me that I think I've heard it before, though I couldn't say where. Maybe some of you have prior knowledge of him, I do not.

    With no further ado, here are the links:
    https://rumble.com/v3vyvzv-the-fall-of-minneapolis.html


    I can't force anyone to watch those prior to responding, but if you do, unless you already seen them and know what is in 'em, and I expect most do not, you'll be arguing from a position of ignorance. So much so that I don't even think I've done justice to the facts in this post as there is so much more, including the fact that the MPD itself is about 2/3rds of it's former size, and crime in the MSP area is out of control since that day in 2020.
     
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    doesn't change anything, what the officer did was wrong and a man died because of it
     
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    Invalid response. It would take you about 2.5 hours to watch the videos, which you have not had enough time to do, meaning you didn't. Your opinion is uninformed, as usual.
     
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    cutting off blood and air flow to a person with a medical emergency for 9+ min killed him
     
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    DentalFloss Well-Known Member

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    The police bodycams, the training materials that "didn't exist", the ACTUAL autopsy, as opposed to the bullshit one the family put out that was "conducted" by a person who didn't have access to the body or ability to do tests to find things like fatal levels of fentanyl in his blood, the fact that he was pre-judged by high-level politicians making a fair trial all but impossible, and the crooked judge who disallowed pertinent information from being heard by the jury, including the aforementioned videos, especially the one that clearly shows Chauvin's knee wasn't even on Floyd's neck.

    There's more, but you would know that if you bothered watching the videos. Which you have not had time to do.
     
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    Right off the bat with #1 youzzzzzz is wrong, not surprising though.
    Lane was the white guy, remember?
    And Keung is bi-racial.
    So that's 1 1/2 white guys that arrested Floyd. lol

    'New Bodycam Footage Shows Officer Almost Immediately Pulled His Gun At A Sobbing George Floyd'

    "Lane’s video shows that after 36 seconds of speaking with an employee at Cup Foods, who called the police on Floyd for allegedly using a counterfeit $20 bill, Lane and Keung approached Floyd’s car, and when he did not immediately raise his hands, Lane pointed a gun at Floyd, yelling:“Put your f*cking hands up right now!”





    https://www.forbes.com/sites/jemima...un-at-a-sobbing-george-floyd/?sh=6de6740325e5
     
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    LOL... I was going to say "He's dead, Chavin caused it, 3 fellow officers watched"

    What do I have wrong there??

    This will be moved to the Conspiracy (Whackadoo) Forum shortly....
     
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    If someone put all their weight on your neck with their knee, bad things would happen to you too.
     
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    Yeah because watching YouTube videos is research. :)
     
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    OH FFS

    We literally watched the man die in front of our eyes.

    WHY you righties keep trying to justify what Derek Chauvin did is just disgusting. Excuse after excuse after excuse and somehow the fact that there was a black or Asian officer in the vicinity of the incident now makes it OK is just farcical on its face.

    “There were no injuries on the neck” is just more deflective BS. The autopsy clearly stated that it was a lack of oxygen, which can happen without “injury” to the neck.
    https://www.familyjusticecenter.org/the-law-and-you-strangulation-always-serious/#:~:text=Whether death resulted or not,is another myth to dispel.
    Here we are 3 years later and your still trying to litigate something that has been litigated, and adjudicated, and Chauvin was found guilty for killing George Floyd

    NOBODY claims that George Floyd was some pillar of the community, but we do know that he was killed by a police officer in front of our eyes. He’s guilty, hes in prison, and he should rot there.

    Move on
     
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    Next they'll be telling us Kyle the Klown didn't kill 2 people (potential suicides??)....

    Revisionist history at its finest!!
     
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    Exactly...
     
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    I think I've mentioned all these points at one time or another.

    There is no way the police killed him. He died from enough fentanyl in his system to kill an elephant.

    They were just scapegoats to the most recent hate hoax.
     
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    No, it wouldn't. You'd need enough force on the back of the neck to crack the vertebrae. That didn't happen.
     
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    I'm willing to stage a recreation if you are.... I get to play Chauvin though....
     
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    So the Coroner is wrong then. You and your Conservative Medical Degree know more ?
     
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    Hey Now... Ken Paxton Medical University and Grille is one of the finest institutions of its kind in the world!!
     
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    The actual medical examiner is the one who said it in the first place! The coroner you are referring to had no access to the body to do a proper autopsy.
     
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    If you had bothered looking at the info already provided to you in the OP, you'd know the answer to that.

    You won't of course. That would challenge your world view and you can't have that.
     
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    If you had bothered watching the bodycam videos, you would know that the bodycam footage from one of the officers behind Chauvin clearly shows his knee was on Floyd's back, just as he had been trained to do, despite the Chief of Police perjuring himself on the stand when stating no such thing exists. Well, it does, and you'll see it in the MPD Officer's training manuals. Never seen that before, now, have you?? Of course, that bodycam footage was disallowed by the Judge, so the jury never saw it.
     
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    That went over like a lead balloon as a defense during the trial.
    You should know that by now.
     
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    Of course it did. The courts made sure he was convicted.
     
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    oh, ffs!
    Chauvin plead guilty to federal charges of having his knee on Floyd's neck, shoulder and back.
    Chauvin could have had his knee up his own ass for all it matters BUT when a suspect has NO pulse he had a legal obligation to Floyd.
    At that point he chose NOT to administer CPR and may he rot in prison.
     
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    In other words you didn't watch the trial.
    The state showed numerous videos of Chauvin's knee on Floyd's neck.
    Chauvin's knee was still on Floyd's neck when the EMT's arrived and had to tell him to get if off him.
     
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