mRNA Vaccines, Proven toxic, shuts down your immune system

The FDA discriminated against the foreign myocarditis data and deleted it, and left all the rest of the foreign data on the chart, meaning your post is meaningless.

 

Repeating your dishonest claim doesn't make it truthful. You have deliberately failed to address clear evidence showing the 3 states of the totals. Totals that your lying website deceitfully cherry-picked to create a false impression and that you have regurgitated without any verification.

This is by no means an isolated thing. Conspiracy theorists do this all the time, only in this case it's 100% obvious.

Interested viewers on any fence will be wondering what level of evidence will EVER make a conspiracy theorist change their mind!

 

Repeating your blunder doesnt change the fact you are still wrong.

I showed you the deletion, meaning you are wrong. There were several doctors tracking their data that witnessed and published it as I have shown you.

You claimed they deleted all the foreign data, which is false, I proved you wrong since the only foreign data they delleed was data that was a major safety trigger that would have forced them to pull the vax.

Nothing here folks but incredulity.

 

Nice try. Nothing to see here folks, just another spam thread "diversifying" into yet another generalized antivax thread.

 

Gotta love the way these spammed threads ignore on topic posts and go off into the batshit world of antivaxx!

 

Can we get some answers?

 

All ignored, all on topic! A real recap, another spam thread where it degenerates into a pathetic antivax free-for-all, but where on topic posts get deliberately evaded.

 

asked and answered, please read my response

asked and answered, please read my response

asked and answered, please read my response

Nice dodge attempt!

Now its your turn to respond: HERE

 

A lie, no you didn't.

Ditto.

Ditto.

The problem is the dodging is for on topic posts and it goes on all the time in your numerous spam threads!

 

Clearly we will not see a response to the blunder where july was substituted for october november, which of course is nonresponsive despite claims otherwise.

HERE

 

I suspect you will never understand the level of frustration people feel with YOUR evasion, orders of magnitude more than what you may experience.

You mean you haven't spammed this across at least 3 other threads already!?

"AFAIK"? I love that phrase! I would bet copious amounts that you would never check why it was removed or whether it was justified! It was another foreign dataset.

 

There is no point in my continuing this conversation with you since you dodge every time you are challenged, yes I totally understand the frustration. Anyone wants to know about foreign dataset I made it perfectly clear in previous posts, no point in playing footsie with you, its a total waste of my time. Christ Im on the same forum with the doctors doing the work.

 

Imagine how disappointing it would be for me not to have you responding.

I am trying to work out what you are claiming, but it sure sounds like you think it's some sort of expertise. Hilarious.

 

The claim that the CDC deleted data related to myocarditis has been thrown around social media with all sorts of misinformation attached to it. The CDC said the entry removal was due to foreign reports being combined with domestic reports. Using VAERS as a source to provide proof that myocarditis is a dangerous adverse effect which should force ‘them’ to pull the vaccines makes most scientists incredulous or makes them chuckle for the simple fact that VAERS database does not involve dictating causation.

Many countries keep track of vaccine adverse events, so really VAERS is not the sole source of reported adverse events.
For example, reports in Switzerland resulted in 16,855 reports of suspected adverse reactions of which 10,365 were classified as ‘not serious’ and 6,490 reports were considered serious. The majority of reports involved more than one reaction including fever, headache, fatigue, shivering, nausea and dizziness. The UK keeps data as well and assessed reports of suspected myocarditis from both the UK and international reports. The results support that cases of vaccine-associated myocarditis are rare and symptoms are typically mild.

In terms of cases reported to VAERS, the inclusion of data in VAERS does not imply causality. The database has been misused repeatedly to make unfounded claims about the vaccines.

It’s better to look at multiple research papers dealing with adverse effects.

https://www.mdpi.com/2227-9059/11/5/1469

https://academic.oup.com/cid/article/76/3/e544/6603291

https://journals.lww.com/smj/fullte..._covid_19_vaccination_and_the_reported.1.aspx

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0749379722004536

https://academic.oup.com/qjmed/article/116/1/7/6541647

https://assets.cureus.com/uploads/review_article/pdf/144455/20230523-4598-1ra83qf.pdf

https://www.ahajournals.org/doi/10.1161/CIRCRESAHA.123.321878

In addition, other things to consider:

The phase III trials by Moderna and Pfizer did not detect myocarditis as a safety concern. There was no significant differences related to myocarditis between the vaccine group and the placebo group.

A more recent study of millions of doses of the vaccine considered there to be an association between the vaccine and myocarditis but a ‘rare’ association. Myocarditis has been associated with other vaccines like hepatitis vaccine and the smallpox vaccine.

Vaccine-associated myocarditis is usually milder than the viral type and most people make a full recovery. In some people, viral myocarditis causes scarring of the heart tissue reducing the ability to pump blood and circulate oxygen. Twenty percent of people with myocarditis linked to viruses go on to experience heart failure.

Back to VAERS, if the CDC removed 6000 reports of an adverse event of myocarditis out of billions of foreign doses being given, does that make the adverse event of myocarditis common or rare? Are all the reports indicative of the vaccine causing the outcome or could other causes have been involved? Deletion of cases doesn’t mean other databases don’t contain the same information. Prior to Covid, the incidence of myocarditis was approximately 1.5 million cases worldwide annually, and the overall incidence is unknown and probably under diagnosed.

All in all, before stating that the covid vaccines should be pulled due to the deletion of data by the CDC from the VAERS database, one should consider other more reliable sources related to myocarditis, especially research studies. One should also look at other databases. If there is an increased occurrence of myocarditis in young men after receiving the vaccine, it doesn’t mean the occurrence of myocarditis is common. It’s not, it’s rare. When a vaccine is determined to cause adverse events at more than the expected level, they are withdrawn. A few examples include a polio vaccine in 1955 due to insufficient inactivation of the virus; a rotavirus vaccine in 1999 suspected of causing a type of bowel obstruction in infants; Dengvaxia in 2017 suspected of actually causing dengue. Contrary to the claims of conspiracy theorists, vaccines that cause severe adverse events in numbers that aren’t expected, are pulled from the market.[/quote][/quote]

 

ps, I didnt get this from social media

Just direct me to the one link that shows the mycarditis data was reinserted, otherwise you wasted a lot of your time.

This has already been addressed.

This has already been addressed.

This has already been addressed.

But you failed to address this:



Im sure everyone is very interested in knowing how this happens and what pro medical industrial complexers explain this intentional deletion.

Your response with July dates is garbage take note of the big red date notations.

 

It IS better to look at all the data, unless you are a conspiracy theorist, then you just find a pretty graph and spam it over 4 threads!

 

After looking at ALL the data presented there is nothing that justifies the criminal CDC misuse and falsification of the VAERS database to hide data that would have gotten the vax pulled, your evasion is noted.

 

They haven't been "proven toxic." It amazes me that this particuarly conspiracy theory became so prevalent that there wasn't any room for it in the actual conspiracy theory section anymore and it need its own super, dedicated conspiracy theory subforum.

 

Oh, well thanks for that....note to self spike proteins are not toxic!

Oh and feel free to PROVE they are nontoxic!

 

I'm honestly not even sure what particular nutty conspiracy theory you guys are promoting now. It changes with the wind. And it is always pathetic.

 

Had you bothered to actually take so much as a peek at the OP you would have discovered this is about a Senate hearing. So you want to accuse the Senate of CT is that it?

 

The video referenced looks like it is mostly based on the usual, lazy, dishonest VAERS misrepresentations that we've seen from other wingnut conspiracy theorists.

 

I think the evidence against your pet vax is getting so overwhelming for believers they want to see it all go away!

You should help them out we need answers for THIS criminal activity on the Hill.

You are more than welcome to prove all your conspiracy claims.

 

If the evidence were overwhelming, then the conspiracy theorists would actually be able to provide evidence. So far they have failed.

 

Oh and you think these people went to a Senate hearing with no evidence? Thats not the way it works. There was plenty of evidence and references offered.

Its not that there was no evidence provided the problem is you refuse to look at the evidence.