mRNA Vaccines, Proven toxic, shuts down your immune system

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  1. Death

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    See batshit, post batshit. No commentary, no analysis, no method, nothing.

    Ditto. SV40 spam, discussed numerous times!
     
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    I'm just a layman so and I know my limits. All I can do is talk to a doctor to see if he agrees. I know someone who knows a doctor who agreed.

    Please link to where it was discussed so we can see if it was actually debunked.
     
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    Uhuh.
    Oh, but best make sure he follows the path of batshit huh?
    As crap hearsay goes that is outstanding!

    Why? What point is there giving you anything when you don't understand it or ever reply to it! Search function - SV40.
     
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    The bottom line is that the deaths and injuries started after the vaccine rollout which kind of makes it look like covid wasn't causing them.

    Tucker Carlson Interviews Dr. Pierre Kory: COVID Vaccines Causing Unprecedented Deaths & Injuries
    https://rumble.com/v4j64j0-tucker-c...e-kory-covid-vaccines-causing-unpreceden.html
    (2:10 time mark)

    I know people who were injured shortly after getting the vax and I know of people who died young. This is consistent with what the anti-vaccine doctors say and is not consistent with what the pro-vaccine camp says. As has been said before on this forum, one doesn't need to have a degree in meteorology to know which way the wind is blowing.
     
  7. FreshAir

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    so is the op pushing the non-mRNA versions of the Vaccine then?

    what's ironic is most of the people trying to scare others from getting the vaccine, got it themselves without issue
     
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    I would assume they are anti-any-covid vaccine.

    The most important point one can take from this thread is that the mRNA vaccines have NOT been proven to be toxic, nor have they been proven to shut down the immune system.
     
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    I got the mRNA, as did many I know, did not see anything negative except a couple had a sore arm for maybe a day, but that is usually from the needle moving and not going straight in and out imo (or the patient moving while needle in)
     
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    A completely false statement. The famous "spike" in deaths occurs numerous points well before, well after in the majority of country specific charts!
    Detailed here!
    Disproven crap.
    And again for the 20th time hearsay spam. You have done nothing to correlate anything.
    Yep
    Here's one previous reply to your spam:
    "Well you need some to understand it isn't blowing in one direction everywhere! Or that the local area you can test with a wet finger doesn't mean the whole world is doing that, or even the whole street! If you don't understand a subject, you don't understand why bullshit claims are bullshit. If every source you surround yourself with is related to batshit, that will be what you "see happening". If every informed consensus is ignored because of some absurd confirmation bias then you will NEVER get a balanced understanding."
     
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    So, do you think these experts are lying? They seem to be analyzing data from official sources. They say the excess deaths and injuries started after the vaccine rollout.

    Dr. Denis Rancourt Unveiling All-Cause Mortality: A Critical Analysis of the Pandemic Declaration and Vaccination Rollout | Ottawa Day One | NCI
    https://rumble.com/v2ohtte-physicis...s-his-findings-on-all-cause-mortality-ot.html

    Ed Dowd & Josh Stirling Present Alarming COVID-19 Vaccine Statistics At Washington D.C. Roundtable
    https://rumble.com/v1zh0fn-ed-dowd-...larming-covid-19-vaccine-statistics-at-w.html

    https://rumble.com/search/all?q=vaccine deaths statistics
     
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    Rancourt has no medical qualifications, no expertise in epidemiology, none in virology. He does have a dubious academic history.

    Sterling's fake claims have been discredited.

    [https://healthfeedback.org/claimrev...t-show-covid-19-vaccines-increased-mortality/]

    So have Edward Dowd's, a former Wall Street analyst.

    Your reliance upon crackpots, rather than the overwhelming consensus of qualified experts, reveals a desperation in pushing your wonky dogma.

    Rather than falling victim to loony publications like the Epoch Times. I suggest you overcome your paranoia, and respect the consensus of legitimate medical experts.

     
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    Why? What has it got to do with the OP? Can you answer that post properly!?
     
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    Anyone who watches the video can see that it shows that mainstream scientific papers sometimes contain lies so those links to papers he posted shouldn't be taken as fact. He seems to take them as fact. Do you take them as fact?
     
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    Define 'lies'.
     
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    December 6, 2023​

    ... Even after the billions of doses given during the pandemic, messenger RNA (mRNA) vaccines still hold surprises. A study out today reveals they may unexpectedly prompt cells to produce small amounts of unintended proteins. There is no evidence that these mistakes compromise the safety of the COVID-19 vaccines, which saved millions of lives, and the researchers have already proposed a fix that may help make future vaccines or drugs based on mRNAs safer and even more effective.

    Other scientists say there is nothing alarming about the new work, reported today in Nature, and agree that it could help improve the design of mRNA treatments still under development. The “landmark study” provides fresh insights into how cells make proteins from both natural and artificial mRNA, virologist Stephen Griffin at the University of Leeds told the U.K. Science Media Centre. He added that “some of the future wider therapeutic uses for RNA technology beyond vaccines may involve higher and more frequent dosing, so any and all possible issues need to be addressed.”

    https://www.science.org/content/art...-unintended-proteins-there-s-no-evidence-harm
     
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    But you're a layman, as you have admitted numerous times. Your whole belief system is based on "what you've seen" as you have admitted numerous times. You have demonstrated no objectivity, it's a matter of the tiny minority being correct (who just happen to have side-lines selling "alternative" remedies!) and the entire medical and pharmaceutical industry being in cohorts to suppress things they have sworn to not do!

    There is no logic at all in anything presented by ant-vaxxers. You link to a moronic video that suggests people all over the world are dying, when clearly that is a a massive lie. We are many years down the road and very useful yard sticks can be observed from the sport/movie/music world where celebrities of all ages are not dropping like flies!

    You continue to ignore inconvenient posts!
     
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    Here's some stuff you should check out.
    https://rumble.com/search/all?q=athletes dying

    Celebrities and musicians are dying from vaccines. wyszczypani celebryci padają jak muchy
    https://rumble.com/v1paetn-celebrit...-from-vaccines.-wyszczypani-celebryci-pa.html
     
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    There are a lot of celebrities who died mentioned in the video that are not mentioned in the Wikipedia article. The Wikipedia article seems to be incomplete. Is this your evidence that the video is bogus?

    Also, what about the athletes?
     
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    Gotta love that "scientific" assessment! "A lot". Meh!
    Show where any one of the deaths were caused by vaccinations! Show where the numbers are higher than usual!
    Show where any one of the deaths were caused by vaccinations! Show where the numbers are higher than usual!

    Or just ignore another inconvenient post.
     
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