mRNA Vaccines, Proven toxic, shuts down your immune system

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  1. Natty Bumpo

    Natty Bumpo Well-Known Member

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    After the efficacy of Covid vaccines was clearly demonstrated and millions of lives saved, the overwhelming consensus of epidemiologists, virologists, and public health experts has been joined by politicians who once espoused quack remedies.

    Crackpot sources still spew nonsense, of course.

     
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    Just saying it's nonsense doesn't make it nonsense. The viewers can look at the info I've posted and your response to it and come to their own conclusions.

    You never addressed this satisfactorily.
    http://www.politicalforum.com/index...r-immune-system.617143/page-8#post-1074773977
     
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    Natty Bumpo Well-Known Member

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    I am satisfied that Leemon McHenry, PhD, a bioethicist, has never denied the effectiveness of the mRNA vaccines as proven to the satisfaction of the overwhelming consensus of epidemiologists, virologists, public health experts, and even some politicians who had once pushed crackpot remedies.
     
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    The statistics prove it so. Your total lack of correlation makes it so!
    ....your endless conveyor belt of uncorrelated batshit links. Those few already down the rabbit-hole need no convincing, everyone else will see just batshit.

    Off topic diversion. Your "satisfaction" about it is irrelevant. Someone asked you to define "lies" - you never even responded. The failures of pharmaceutical companies and how they garner support is irrelevant to a sars2 vaccine that DOESN'T shut down a damn thing.
     
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    Can you link to where he addresses that issue. Maybe I missed it but I only remember his dealing with the issue of whether we can trust what's said in medical journals.

    Here's another doctor that agrees with him.

    The illusion of evidence based medicine



    His video shows that we can't trust what the mainstream says. You're ignoring the whole point of his video.
     
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    Natty Bumpo Well-Known Member

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    I agree with them, as well.

    Nowhere do they entertain the thread's fake claim that "mRNA Vaccines, Proven toxic, shuts down your immune system."
     
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    That's not the subject dealt with in those two videos. They don't address that issue. They deal with the issue of how honest medical journals are.
    I posted the video in post #188 as a rebuttal to your attitude that the info in the links you posted should be taken as fact. My view on that info is that it can't be taken as fact because there are alleged lies in medical journals and other medical publications.

    Here's some stuff about the vaccine's alleged effect on the immune system.
    https://rumble.com/search/all?q=covid vaccine immune system
     
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    Discredited crank!
    No! It shows we cannot trust cranks who have ulterior motives for making money off of gullible conspiracy theorists!
    Sickening irony when you ignore 99% of rebuttal and divert with spammed batshit.
    Ye gods. Spam to spam links, linking to videos to links about videos. Every post almost without fail. "But my videos" is NOT a valid argument, when they come from cranks, discredited physicians and those with a nice line in "alternative" medicine sales.

    Where is your analysis of any of it!? These stupid videos offer nothing but conjecture and your whole belief system as you admitted relies on "what you see" locally! You don't have to be a meteorologist to know where hot air has originated from!
     
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    Natty Bumpo Well-Known Member

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    Yes, as I stated, "Nowhere do they entertain the thread's fake claim that "mRNA Vaccines, Proven toxic, shuts down your immune system."
    I do not dispute that Big Pharma can be deceptive in promoting its own interests.

    Rumble hosts Trump's Truth Social, and is popular among extreme rightists. I prefer objective sources. Dishonest ideologues such as David Nunes, Dinesh D'Souza, Sean Hannity, and Jim Jordan are denizens of Rumble.

    Rumble received investment from rightists venture capitalists Peter Thiel, Vivek Ramaswamy and J. D. Vance.

    Following the 2022 Russian invasion of Ukraine, Rumble did not follow responsible social media platforms in banning Russian state media from their site.

    It is a notorious source of propaganda.
     
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    False. It is the worst place to find it. It specializes in appalling misinformation rejected by places such as youtube.
    Another bunch of batshit that you fail to offer any commentary on, automatically buy into and that provide zero correlation data. Confirmation bias at its worst!
     
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    I regard a consensus of cardiologists as being the preferred source of medical expertise in cardiology, oncologists in oncology, immunologists in immunology. etc.

    If I require medical care, I definitely would not consult ideologues hyping aberrant views in any medical discipline.
     
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    This was covered by YOU on the previous page! Clearly you didn't click the link in my reply and you don't understand what you are posting..
    Meh! As clear an example of deception you can get. The website tells you what to believe but unfortunately fails to overlay any of the graphs over the proper timeline!

    Provably they didn't!
    I suggest you stop automatically believing lying batshit websites!

    Hmm, let's look at your charts shall we!?

    Argentina: ACM spike occurred before vaccine rollout!
    Australia: Bulk of first dose no correlation and ACM actually tails off!
    Bolivia: ACM spike occurred before vaccine rollout!
    Brazil: ACM spike occurred before vaccine rollout!
    Chile: ACM spike occurred before vaccine rollout!
    Colombia: Numerous significant ACM spikes occurred before vaccine rollout, largest spike began BEFORE rollout!
    Ecuador: Ludicrous that you even post this! ACM spike occurred a year before vaccine rollout!
    Malaysia: Looks close, but once again the ACM spike began BEFORE vaccine rollout!
    New Zealand: Not even close to a correlation!
    Paraguay: ACM spike BEFORE rollout!
    Peru: Ridiculous, not even close!
    Philippines: ACM spike occurred before vaccine rollout!
    Singapore: ACM spikes occurred well after vaccine rollout and showed no correlation whatsoever!
    South Africa: ACM spike occurred before vaccine rollout!
    Suriname: No correlation and the main ACM spike began and reached near its peak before vaccine rollout!
    Thailand: ACM spike occurred before vaccine rollout! Continuation has zero statistical correlation!
    Uruguay: Spike appears to occur at the same time, but the correlation between dose and ACM is not even close to significant. Continued spikes show zero correlation.

    So, your big wall of "data" actually proves that the damn vaccines CANNOT have been the cause!
     
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    Hey Natty Bumpo...

    Do you agree with what Betamax says in post #215?
     
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    WHAT!? This garbage was covered 6 months ago and
    • What stops you from looking at all the charts and confirming what I just PROVED!
    • You CLEARLY made the same damn claim on the previous page and ignore where this is pointed out.
    • You clearly ignored my link showing it to be horseshit!
    • Even visually anyone can see all cause mortality spikes are nearly ALWAYS before the rollouts!
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    Hey Natty Bumpo...

    This is what Betamax said bout the graphs I linked to in post #214.

    Do you agree with him?
     
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    In terms of honourable behaviour, what would a genuine "truth-seeker" (meh!) do? They would look at their own evidence, assess very accurate rebuttal and come to the conclusion that they have been lied to!

    However, even when presented with "truther" supplied graphs(!) that prove exactly what I stated, all we get is pathetic evasion. Nearly every one of those foolish claims is disproven by the spike in all-cause-mortality preceding the vaccine rollout! It's not even close in most cases.

    An honest person would look at those charts and understand there is no horsershit vaccine issue.
     
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    The bioweapon that carries the label vaccine is proven to be the cause UK is one place that proved it.


    Maroon line is the unvaxed, green line is first dose vax several magnitudes higher mortality, Unvaxed did better in every category.


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    Vaxed dying at 2:1 unvaxed in the Netherlands.



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    They tell the public they cut off data collection when the vaxed mortality started to do a steady climb.
     
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