MTG Let's Bomb Mexico

Someone who believes in dropping bombs indiscriminately (i.e. absent due process) and that "collateral damage" is somehow justified should not be judging anyone, never mind being incredibly FOS. Innocent people die in wars of aggression and defensive retaliation. The difference is defensive retaliation is a necessary evil to attempt to repel wars of aggression (i.e. genocide). Unlike you phony one, I do not support murder, nor do I support capital punishment (i.e. state sponsored murder). I already had one of my posts deleted (censored) because I rightfully and justifiably called a spade a spade. Hopefully the "spade" it was directed at read it before it was deleted. But if you also read it, the same goes for you. If you didn't, I'll let you guess why it was deleted by the mods as I predicted. And if this post gets deleted, oh well, I stand by my principles regardless of consequences.

 

That's a very wordy way to say you support funding the war in Ukraine, which has led the deaths of innocent Russians and Polish people, because you agree with the cause. Just say that. Don't be so wordy. Just say, "I agree with innocent Russians and Polish people being killed, because it's worth it in the grander scheme of things, but I don't want innocent Mexicans possibly being killed, even if that would disrupt the cartel operations and perhaps save American lives." See? Just say that. You're welcome.

 

Sorry sonny, you can't deflect away your bloodthirsty genocidal mindset by inventing nonsense about me or the war in Ukraine. Your own posts speak for themselves. You're welcome.

 

Bloodthirsty? What do you mean? I want to do surgical strikes against the cartels with little to no collateral damage; you appear to be for funding a war in which bombs from Ukraine are being sent willy-nilly to a degree to which they are landing in Poland, not Russia, killing innocent Polish people. I mean, that just shows you how carelessly Ukraine is sending off bombs. And you, YOU, are for the continuation of that funding. So I think you've made it clear that you should not be taken serious on your concern for innocent people being killed in wars. It appears that you are projecting. It appears that you have a "bloodthirsty genocidal mindset."

 

No, it's simple capitalism. If need is great, supply will find a way to meet those demands, especially with illicit drugs in play. That is why the addiction, or lowering the addiction rates for illicit drugs is the key. This is the long-term approach, not the 30-second political ad that gets most uneducated persons around these parts.

 

the difference between Mexico and Ukraine is that Russia invaded Ukraine and thought it will take over the country in 10 days. Mexico is not at war with anyone and has not invaded anyone as a military force to achieve a political means that diplomacy cannot. Basically, you are comparing apples to durian fruit here.

 

You are still attacking a soverign nation here and its people. Yes, they are cartels. But it would be no different if a "surgical strike" was done in this country against RW antigovernment militias that Canada might consider.

 

Translation: You want to murder people absent due process and "little" collateral damage means murdering innocent people no matter what "little" means to you. In fact, in American law (when properly used), everyone is innocent unless and until proven guilty by a valid court of law. Who do you think you're fooling? Bloodthirsty? 100%. Even if you believe you are going to murder people involved in "cartels", how do you know? By what measure? Just because someone in authority (or not) says so? Why even bother with due process if you believe someone committed murder? Just murder the accused and be done with it. It's the Nazi way. Obviously you don't believe in the American way, the Constitution and all that worthless paper.

"We must remember always that accusation is not proof and that conviction depends upon evidence and due process of law." - Edward R. Murrow

In this case you actually want to bomb people in a sovereign nation. That would be a war crime and a violation of multiple international treaties that the US is a signatory to. It's also a violation of the Constitution via the Supremacy clause (Article VI Paragraph 2).

What I "appear to be" to you is irrelevant. You're in no position to judge me using your phony hypotheticals in an attempt to deflect your barbarian philosophy. I already noted multiple times that I don't support cold blooded murder, I'm not you, quite the opposite. Your inventions about me or what you think is going on in Ukraine (which has zero to do with me) don't change your own posts (aka your murderous bloodthirsty philosophy) no matter how hard you try. Those posts are YOUR own admissions in black and white. They don't "appear to be" anything other than exactly what YOU post.

 

Ya ya

None of the ridiculous has changes since your last stab at it

 

You support funding Ukraine, which fired a missile into Poland, killing innocent people. Sorry, you don't have any moral high ground to stand on here.

RW antigovernment militias are not even in the same scope as the cartel in the amount of blood that they have shed and the Americans that they have killed. Not even left-wing mobs, such as Weather Underground, Antifa, and BLM are responsible for the number of deaths as the cartels.

Oh, I'm sorry. Since when did the United States become Ukraine? Additionally, Ukraine was invaded by Russia, and the cartels are sending in drugs, killing Americans. The method of attack is different; but it's still an attack. Why are you not considering American sovereignty? Doesn't America have a right to defend itself from an organization that is sending in guns, drugs, and violence? Additionally, Russians invading Ukraine does not give Ukraine a right to send a missile into Poland, which it did, and that killed innocent Polish people. What moral high ground can you have in supporting the sending in of more money to a country who clearly is shooting off missiles so indiscriminately, killing innocent people and attacking the innocent sovereign country of Poland?

 

I never posted any such thing phony one, that was your invention.

Says the guy who openly proposes to indiscriminately bomb (i.e. murder) people in a sovereign nation.

 

Yes or no? Do you support the funding of Ukraine in its war against Russia?

 

that is according to Russia. but no one really knows. If it was a missile fired from Ukraine, then that missile malfunctioned. It was not intentional. And that makes a big difference.

I beg to differ. Anti-government militias, especially the Three Percenters and Oath Keepers showed their true colors on January 6, 2021, especially its leaders. As for the cartels, I consider them more along the lines of the five families crime syndicate, aka La Cosa Nostra. To them, this is business. However, if we go through bombing a foreign country's organized crime, then it won't be long for US military to go after gangs here from the Aryan Brotherhood to the East 8th street gang and more. And that will be a violation of US policy and the Constitution by and large.

As for Antifa and BLM, most of them are for police reform, among other things. But when they get around, there is always the Proud Boys, 3 Percenters, and others to agitate them. And when that happens, sooner, rather than later, sparks will fly because one side will agitate the other and the other will respond.

You are being hyperbolic here. In war, there is always a chance, more often than not, for collateral damage. The United States tries to do its best to minimize that, but we can never eliminate it. Want to talk about that with the likes of the Bombing of Dresden, the firebombings of Tokyo and other Japanese Cities, the carpet bombing in Vietnam, the one or two incidents during the First Gulf War, and so forth? Or shall we talk about the mass graves of Ukrainians when Russia occupied Ukrainian cities like Kherson, or the mass rapes by Russian soldiers of women as young as 12 and as old as 65, among other things. It is why Russians are losing the war with Ukraine and never can achieve their original objectives. Putin clearly misjudged the response of the West, especially among Western European Nations such as Poland, Germany, etc. Even one of its staunchest allies, Hungary, is being very silent right now.

 

Trump also added war against Mexico to his campaign platform.

 

You keep trying to deflect (or possibly justify) your own barbaric position of advocating cold blooded mass murder. Ukraine has nothing to do with me nor have I ever posted anything about Ukraine. I don't support wars of aggression (which is what they all are) or the funding of wars of aggression or cold blooded mass murder (i.e. the result of wars of aggression). That is what YOU admit you advocate and support. I am not you.

 

I don't think that is how it has worked out in CA. Now the cartels have massive grow operations in the state.

I do like this story, though: With Tuesday Pot Legalization Vote, OK Poised To Rake In Texans' Money

'Okies set to welcome Texans taking a break from nanny-state tyranny...'

Federalism, that's how it works.