Nearly a third of Republicans say they will never get vaccinated, new poll finds

Wrong again.

You truly need to inform yourself instead of trotting out these verifiably wrong piles of nonsense. Oh, but I'm sure they're "lying" and stuff:

https://www.dshs.texas.gov/immunize/covid19/data/cases-and-deaths-by-vaccination-status-11082021.pdf


Key Findings 1. From September 4 through October 1, 2021: • Unvaccinated people were 13 times more likely to become infected with COVID-19 than fully vaccinated people. • Unvaccinated people were 20 times more likely to experience COVID-19-associated death than fully vaccinated people.

2. Vaccination had a strong protective effect on infections and deaths among people of all ages. The protective impact on infections was consistent across adult age groups and even greater in people ages 12 to 17 years. The protective impact on COVID-19 deaths, which was high for all age groups, varied more widely. In the September time frame, unvaccinated people in their 40s were 55 times more likely to die from COVID-19 compared with fully vaccinated people of the same age. Unvaccinated people aged 75 years and older were 12 times more likely to die than their vaccinated counterparts.

3. Overall, regardless of vaccination status, people in Texas were four to five times more likely to become infected with COVID-19 or suffer a COVID-19-associated death while the Delta variant was prevalent in Texas (August 2021) compared with a period before the Delta variant became prevalent (April 2021).

And there's more. A LOT more. Would you like to read more?

 

That's what he says. Or not.

Maybe he can clarify that.

 

*LOL*

Yes, I do. Would you like to see it? Or maybe you could climb out of your EZ chair and look it up for yourself.

 

But they don't. They're the first ones to go in and take up hospital bed as soon they get the sniffles.

I wonder how many are difficult patients. Hell, I wonder how many aren't misinforming their fellows or even attacking the staff. I never yet saw a case of where an entire political party seems to adopt being a "dick" as an absolute and recognized plank in the party's platform

 

LIke so much else.

 

Yeah, please show me your evidence.

 

It isn't "my evidence". It's evidence. I don't know why you keep making that mistake.

https://news.usc.edu/182848/education-covid-19-vaccine-safety-risks-usc-study/

New findings from the Understanding Coronavirus in America survey reveal that when it comes to attitudes and beliefs about the COVID-19 vaccine — from willingness to get the vaccine to knowing someone who has been vaccinated to the perceived risks of side effects — there is a substantial gap between more- and less-educated U.S. residents.

Researchers with the Center for Economic and Social Research (CESR) at the USC Dornsife College of Letters, Arts and Sciences found that more than 3 out of 4 (76%) U.S. adults with at least a bachelor’s degree have already been vaccinated or plan to be, compared to just over half (53%) of those without a college degree. That’s a change from earlier in the pandemic, when level of education played less of a role in people’s willingness to get a COVID-19 vaccine.

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Education level plays a role in underestimating effectiveness, overestimating risks of COVID-19 vaccine
On a range of measures related to vaccine experiences and attitudes, including assessing both effectiveness and the risk of serious side effects, people’s level of education plays a large role. U.S. adults with at least a bachelor’s degree view the vaccine as much safer and more effective than those with less education.

• Overall, U.S. adults believe there is a 30% chance, on average, that someone who has been vaccinated will still get COVID-19 and a 26% chance of serious side effects from the vaccine.
• People with a college degree believe there is a 23% chance that a vaccinated person will still get COVID-19, while those with less education believe there is a 34% chance.
• Similarly, people with a college degree believe there is about a 15% chance for a serious side effect from the vaccine, while those with less education estimate the risk to be twice as high, at 31%.
• U.S. adults with college degrees are also more likely to personally know someone who has been vaccinated.
  
  • Fifty-four percent of U.S. adults overall know a friend or family member who has been vaccinated, but U.S. adults with a bachelor’s degree or higher are much more likely to know someone who has been vaccinated (69%), compared to those without a college degree (46%).
  • Seventy-four percent of college-educated Latino people know someone who has been vaccinated, compared to 46% of Latinos with less education.
  • Fifty-five percent of Black people with a bachelor’s degree or higher know someone who has been vaccinated, compared to 41% of those with less education.
  “Moving forward, we have to work closely with information and communication channels people trust, like celebrities and leaders from the community and faith-based organizations,” said Jeffrey Klausner, professor of preventive medicine at Keck School of Medicine of USC and a research scientist at the COVID-19 Pandemic Research Center.
  
  
  

 

And there's more. A LOT more.

 

BTW, the unvaxxed are infected, hospitalized and die at far greater rates than the vaxxed. Do you doubt that, too?

 

Accreditation and education are not the same thing. Your “evidence” only mentions credentials. I’ve met a lot of people in my life who have good credentials but are remarkably uneducated.

 

I’ve already said I’ve taken the vaccinations, and I’ve done so because I think they’re probably effective and less dangerous than the virus. But others can have access to the same information as I and make the opposite decision. It’s not a matter of education.

 

Over 88% of Israel is vaccinated with the pfiser shot, guess what?
Israel was the first country on Earth to fully vaccinate a majority of its citizens against COVID-19. Now it has one of the world's highest daily infection rates, an average of nearly 7,500 confirmed cases a day, double what it was two weeks ago. And half of Israel's seriously ill patients who are currently hospitalized were fully vaccinated at least five months ago.

Meaning, the fake vaccine doesn't stop you from getting Covid.

Having SARS-CoV-2 once confers much greater immunity than a vaccine—but vaccination remains vital
Israel is the largest real-world observational study so far to compare natural and vaccine-induced immunity to SARS-CoV-2.
Vaccinated individuals are 13 times more likely to get infected than unvaccinated people who were previously infected,
27 times higher to develop symptomatic Covid,
and the risk of hospitalization was 8 times higher among vaccinated than previously infected.

Since we are dealing with a virus with over 98% survival rate, I don't think you could even come close to classifying this vaccine as a vaccine since it only works maybe half the time.
https://www.science.org/content/art...er-immunity-vaccine-vaccination-remains-vital

 

Yeah--that "study" isn't peer-reviewed and has been debunked. Have you been living under a rock?

https://news.yahoo.com/vaccine-conf...y-cdc-finds-201511956.html?fr=sycsrp_catchall

WASHINGTON — Earlier this month, the conservative radio host Dennis Prager announced he had contracted the coronavirus. This was, as far as he was concerned, good news. The unvaccinated Prager had hoped to protect himself against COVID-19 the old-fashioned way: by getting sick.

“It is infinitely preferable to have natural immunity than vaccine immunity,” Prager said, echoing an anti-vaccine argument echoed by Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis and other pro-Trump figures who have turned coronavirus vaccination into a culture war that, public health officials say, could prolong the pandemic for everyone.

Prager is wrong, suggests a new study published on Friday by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention that finds that natural immunity offers far weaker protection than does a vaccine. The new study finds that people who had natural immunity from having recently fought off COVID-19 and who were not vaccinated were 5.49 times more likely to experience another COVID-19 infection than were vaccinated people who had not previously been infected.

“The data demonstrate that vaccination can provide a higher, more robust, and more consistent level of immunity to protect people from hospitalization for COVID-19 than infection alone for at least 6 months,” a CDC press release said.

 

Good for you. You must not be doing a very thorough job of researching.

 

You still haven’t shown you understand the difference between having credentials and being educated. Could it be that if you tried you’d have to admit your evidence is horse s**t?

 

Those that refuse to get the vaccines and booster shots, will suffer consequences.Simple as that.

 

*rolling eyes*

Right. Because you can have "credentials" (what ever the **** means) and be uneducated at the same time.

This isn't 1850.

It's not "my evidence", as I've told you at least 4 times. It's evidence.

WTF are you trying to claim---that GED recipients have as credible an "opinion" on Covid as actual pandemic experts?

 

Evidence? No. It’s a biased opinion based on cherry picked criteria.

 

Then there are people who understand virology and epidemiology well enough to know nobody knows how likely vaccinated are to be infected. We aren’t screening for asymptomatic infections enough to ever know. I had to laugh at your numbers. Here’s one study in healthcare setting where screening and testing is at much higher rates than the general public showing a 65.5% effectiveness a few months after vaccination. That leaves you with the 34% guess of the “uneducated” being dead on.
https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMc2112981

Of course the above study defined infection as positive test with at least one symptom. Since we know vaccination doubles the rate of asymptomatic infection in breakthrough vs. naive infection that means around 80% of breakthrough infections are asymptomatic. So in the above study there were many asymptomatic breakthrough infections not counted/detected in the vaccinated population. So the chance of being infected after vaccination is much higher than either the “educated” or “uneducated” guesses.

Moral of the story, you are all being hoodwinked. That’s what happens when you listen to folks that think celebrities are trustworthy sources of information. LOL

 

A GED recipient may be ignorant of virology. Pandemic “experts” are highly educated and gave incorrect advice hand over fist. I’d go with an honest critically thinking GED recipient any day over US pandemic experts.

 

No one in his dight mind still trusts the leftist media or bureaucratic ideologues. They’ve done it to themselves by being cocksure about each and every pivot they’ve done in their recommendations...actually more than recommendations, demands. “I am science” says the over-credentialed dwarf.

 

You can't change the outcome of how many people are vaccinated, pre infected, hospitalized, or dead by vote or opinion. Those are not peer reviewed or determined outcomes by vote. So you can stop with the media claims about outcomes and peer reviews trying to debunk actual data that can't be changed. How ridiculous.

NOTHING has debunked or offered ANY evidence to contradict the ACTUAL findings of the study in Israel. If you had it, you would have provided it. But you don't. The only reason Israel was selected was the fact it was the highest vaccinated population on the planet. Half of the people hospitalized were vaccinated 6 months prior to being sick. Any claim that natural immunity is weaker than a Covid shot is KNOWINGLY lying or they are just ignorant to what this so called vaccine provides.

NOTHING you can post can dispute the numbers being recorded in Israel. John Hopkins had the identical conclusions.
Comparing SARS-CoV-2 Natural Immunity to Vaccine-Induced Immunity: Reinfections versus Breakthrough Infections

Model 1 compared 16,215 people in both the vaccinated and natural immunity groups and found that cases in the vaccinated group (n=238, 1.5%) were 13 fold more likely to experience a breakthrough infection than the natural immunity group (n=19, 0.12%). The majority of the cases were symptomatic. There were very few hospitalizations in either group with only 8 in the vaccine arm and 1 in the natural immunity arm.

Model 2 compared 46,035 people in both the vaccinated and natural immunity groups, and found that cases in the vaccinated group (n=640, 1.4%) were 6-fold more likely to experience a breakthrough infection than the natural immunity group (n=108, 0.23%). The majority of the cases were symptomatic. There were very few hospitalizations in either group with only 21 in the vaccine arm and 4 in the natural immunity arm.

Model 3 compared 14,029 people in both the natural immunity and infection-vaccine groups and found that cases in the infection-vaccine group (n=20, 0.14%) had about half the risk of experiencing a breakthrough infection than the natural immunity group (n=37, 0.26%). There was one hospitalization in the natural immunity group.

https://ncrc.jhsph.edu/research/com...-reinfections-versus-breakthrough-infections/

Your natural immunity has kept you alive in this germ infested world since birth. If you had the measles, your immunity will protect you from having it again.
If you get a Polio vaccine, you don't get Polio

This is not a vaccine. Its an injection of dead tissue that gets your body to produce antibodies and it needs boosters every 6 months thus far or the CDC considers you not vaccinated.
How may Polio booster have you had thus far?

Stop getting sucked into information that has been debunked about viruses and so called vaccines for over a 100 years.

 

Yes, as old Bill Casey of the CIA said back in 1981, when everything the American people believe is false, we will know the success of our misinformation efforts.

 

Facts get some people all stirred up.

 

...when the facts contradict their worldview.