Nearly a third of Republicans say they will never get vaccinated, new poll finds

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    557 Well-Known Member

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    No, my mom didn’t see pregnancy as a net negative. She was more of an optimist I guess.

    Do you have a problem with coerced abortions? If so, why?
     
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    It's good she had a choice.


    I have a problem with women being coerced into gestating or abortion ....it's Un-American.

    People should have a problem coercing women even if it's their favorite thing to do.
     
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    We've had this discussion before, and you have yet to clear your paradoxes that you formed during our discussion.

    [1] You argue that a human is a human, yet simultaneously argue that a human is something other than a human. That is completely irrational.

    [2] You argue that a human with a heartbeat is living, yet simultaneously argue that a human with a heartbeat is not living. That is likewise completely irrational.

    You have yet to clear either of these paradoxes. You cannot hold rational discussion about abortion with me until you clear your paradoxes.

    I already answered it. See my previous post to you.

    Repetitious cut/paste about pregnancy side effects summarily dismissed. A woman's privacy is not being invaded... she already spread her legs and let a man insert his genitalia into her genitalia for goodness sake... You are also being hypocritical regarding your misapplication of your abortion position because you immediately turn around towards those very same women and demand that they wear a mask, get tested for COVID, and get a COVID jab all against their will. That is morally abhorrent.
     
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    You're the one who is making claim to some sort of emergency...
     
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    I HAVE NEVER posted that and YOU have NO PROOF I DID...it's all your desperation imaginings...





    You can't seem to hold a rational discussion with "imagining" what others post :)



    No, too bored...


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    YOU obviously have NO IDEA what the right to privacy means but make it blatantly obvious you think women who have sex should be punished.



    AGAIN, YOU are IMAGINGING or claiming, I said things I NEVER said....would you like me to do that to you???




    LOL, since when do YOU decide what is moral or not....:roflol::roflol: YOU??!!!!!....:roll::roflol::roflol::roflol::roflol:
     
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    You're the one telling me that opposing baby murder is somehow morally abhorrent and that supporting baby murder is somehow not morally abhorrent. That's, according to you, YOU attempting to decide what is moral or not. Since when do YOU decide what is moral or not?? -- or are you exempt from your own rules??

    Regarding your paradoxes, anyone can look through our past discussions and see them for themselves. It is public record here on the PF boards.
     
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    That's hardly a universal belief. Most people in the world---and indeed, in the US--don't believe that a fetus is a "baby". Most people who oppose abortion do so from religious beliefs. We shouldn't be employing the government to enforce a religious belief.
     
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    Blue states or red states republicans live in suburbs and democrats live in big cities. And urban areas have much higher mortality than suburban or rural areas.


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    YOU DUCKED/DODGED/AVOIDED POST 280



    SHOW THE EXACT QUOTE WHERE I SAID ""opposing baby murder is somehow morally abhorrent""


    I didn't...just YOUR desperation at not having any argument so HAVE TO MAKE THINGS UP




    It's public record that I didn't say what you claim I said....:) how does that make you look ??
     
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    A fetus is a baby, as he/she is offspring from a male and a female human.

    I do so from the belief that it is morally abhorrent to kill a living human who has committed no crime nor has expressed any desire to die.

    The government is legislating a religious belief as we speak ("climate change").
     
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    You are now denying your own posts immediately after you have posted them. We are done here.
     
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    1. That's your opinion, not a fact. And a minority opinion based upon religious beliefs I might add.

    2. It is a so-called "moral belief" based upon religious beliefs.

    3. A fetus is not a "baby" or a human. It is a potential baby, or human being.

    4. A fetus cannot "express a desire" to do anything, let alone die.

    Creating laws based upon a minority religious belief is unAmerican.
     
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    FoxHastings said:
    YOU DUCKED/DODGED/AVOIDED POST 280
    SHOW THE EXACT QUOTE WHERE I SAID ""opposing baby murder is somehow morally abhorrent""
    YOU COULD NOT DO IT!

    I didn't...just YOUR desperation at not having any argument so HAVE TO MAKE THINGS UP


    It's public record that I didn't say what you claim I said....:) how does that make you look ??



    Yes, one is done when one has to make up things about what other posters said as you have done.

    YOU have NOT backed up one claim of what I allegedly said.


    When one has to make up things due to lack of an argument they are DONE.....they obviously have no argument they can back up..
     
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    It’s good that choice was as irrelevant to her as the other choices she had about my life and health. Not only did she want me to live, she chose to not give me fetal alcohol syndrome even though it was her “right” to do so. She didn’t give me congenital syphilis even though it was her right to do so. She didn’t addict me to illicit drugs during gestation though it was her right to do so.

    It’s too bad so many see these things as simple choices.
    I hate rape too. Has nothing to do with America though. I’d combat it with this.

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    Coercing them to do what? Being vaccinated? Buy health insurance? What about coercing men?
     
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    I answered that already ...they shouldn't be coerced into using their body to sustain the life of another because NO ONE ELSE HAS TO DO THAT...and they shouldn't be coerced into an abortion....they shouldn't be coerced into having their rights destroyed as banning abortion does..
     
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    Ok. So you only care about certain rights. Not all rights. Fair enough.
     
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    Like whose?
     
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    I guess you can read my posts in this thread and find out!
     
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    No, dude, it is science... IT IS BIOLOGY. YOU ARE DENYING BIOLOGY.

    You are the one who seems to be fixated on religion (not me).

    Then what is it?? And what species is it?? It IS, in fact, both a baby and a human. Biology tells us this.

    A fetus is not "potential". It already IS, dude. It exists already. The baby already exists (and is specifically at the fetal stage of human development)

    ... thus the fetus (a living human) has not expressed any desire to die. You are supporting the killing of living humans who have not committed a crime nor have expressed any desire to die.

    Biology is not a "minority religious belief". It is science. You are denying science.
     
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    I was hospitalized after a very bad truck accident. The hospital administered a relatively new drug in large doses, being approved by the FDA it should have been safe. 5 years later the FDA issued a black box warning as it caused a lot of people to have their tendons become brittle. Mine did. What will they do 5 or even 10 years from now if some nasty side effects show up?

    Playing Russian roulette with vaccines largely untested and the Pharmaceutical Companies have a free pass. If something shows up in the future, you can't even sue them. The government granted them immunity.
     
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    FoxHastings said:
    I answered that already ...they shouldn't be coerced into using their body to sustain the life of another because NO ONE ELSE HAS TO DO THAT...and they shouldn't be coerced into an abortion....they shouldn't be coerced into having their rights destroyed as banning abortion does..


    I am sorry you are yet another one who needs to have a "vivid imagination" to be able to respond to a post at all...

    :) That does help with dodging what is actually posted
     
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    Dodging? You are the one that can’t answer my questions. If you can’t comment on or answer questions about any right but one, we have to assume only one concerns you.
     
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    You know if women and impregnating men had to pay for their own abortions, the public would have NO (ZERO) right to any say so. But since our tax dollars are being used for abortions, the general public has a say in it. Democrats can fix that and save roe vs wade.
     
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    FoxHastings said:
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    You didn't answer my question ...Do you apply that to women who want abortions?

    And righties LOVE to FORCE this invasion of women's privacy AGAINST their will:


    This response has been so long in coming that I do not know what the underlined question in my post above refers to.


    Where are our taxes being used for abortions ?

    Most people pay for their own like any other medical procedure.
     
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    Planned Parenthood Received $1.6 Billion of Our Tax Dollars.

    Show some proof please.
     

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