Netanyahu blames Mossad & Shin Bet

How curious.

What are your views on this?

Why would Mossad and Shin Bet do this?


Israeli PM orders investigation into Iran leak

Kuwaiti paper says Binyamin Netanyahu believes the heads of the Mossad and Shin Bet may have leaked plans for attack


Israel's prime minister has ordered an investigation into alleged leaks of plans to attack Iran's nuclear facilities, it has been reported.

According to the Kuwaiti newspaper al-Jarida, the main suspects are the former heads of the Mossad and the Shin Bet, respectively Israel's foreign and domestic intelligence agencies.

Netanyahu is said to believe that the two, Meir Dagan and Yuval Diskin, wanted to torpedo plans being drawn up by him and Ehud Barak, the defence minister, to hit Iranian nuclear sites. Tzipi Livni, leader of the opposition Kadima party, is also said to have been persuaded to attack Netanyahu for "adventurism" and "gambling with Israel's national interest".

The paper suggested that the purpose of the leaks was to prevent an attack, which had moved from the stage of discussion to implementation. "Those who oppose the plan within the security establishment decided to leak it to the media and thwart the plan," it said.

Both Dagan and Diskin oppose military action against Iran unless all other options – primarily international diplomatic pressure and perhaps sabotage — have been exhausted. In January the recently retired Dagan, a hawk when he was running the Mossad, called an attack on Iran "the stupidest idea I've ever heard".

The Kuwait paper has a track record of running stories based on apparently high-level leaks from Israeli officials.

Even well-informed Israeli observers admit to being confused about what is going on behind the scenes.

"It seems that only Netanyahu and Barak know, and maybe even they haven't decided," commented Amos Harel and Avi Issacharoff, both respected Haaretz writers. "While many people say Netanyahu and Barak are conducting sophisticated psychological warfare and don't intend to launch a military operation, top officials … are still afraid."

The idea that something significant is going on in this highly sensitive area was rekindled last week in comments by columnist Nahum Barnea, who wrote in Yedioth Ahronoth that the officials running Israel's military and intelligence services were opposed to a war with Iran.

"Binyamin Netanyahu and Ehud Barak are the Siamese twins of the Iranian issue," he wrote. "A rare phenomenon is taking place here in terms of Israeli politics: a prime minister and defence minister who act as one body, with one goal, with mutual backing and repeated heaping of praise on each other… They're characterised as urging action.

"Netanyahu portrayed the equation at the beginning of his term as: [Iranian president Mahmoud] Ahmadinejad is Hitler; if he is not stopped in time, there will be a Holocaust. There are some who describe Netanyahu's fervour on this subject as an obsession: all his life he's dreamed of being Churchill. Iran gives him the chance."

The debate in Israel was further fanned on Wednesday when Israel successfully test-fired a missile capable of carrying a nuclear warhead and striking Iran.


http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/nov/03/israeli-pm-investigation-iran-leak

 

The Israeli Far Left Rats want to sell Israel down the River like the Far Left Rats have done to America ...

 

You are too weird.

Maybe, you are in fact Israe's McCarthy !

 

The Jew Hating anti-Zionist Bigots are OK but I'm wierd ...

 

No. They're hatemongers. Who said they're okay? They're sick.

 

Are you a product of the US state or private school system?

What does this have to do with 'Jew hating'.

Contempt of Zionism is another matter.

See, here are some Jew haters, hating Jews and Zionism.(I should be getting paid to educate you)

Now, go on a dark corner and SEETHE.

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0haybEo-Tx4"]Jews United Against Zionism, United Nations, January 4, 2009 - YouTube[/ame]

 

If Mossad & Shin Bet are responsible for this, then they did the right thing. Israel already has a poor reputation for being aggressive and trigger-happy, and doesn't need to be promoting this reputation any more than absolutely necessary.

 

It has nothing to do with that. Gator Monroe likes attacking, condemning and insulting the left simply because they don't hate Jews:

The anti-Semite card is commonly wielded by the far right extreme as a means of demonstrating their hatred against those who don't hate Jews.

 

Isn't planning an aggressive attack on another country contrary to the requirements of United Nations membership and its Charter ?

 

He is right about all he says.

 

Thank you.

 

A couple of psychopaths they are.

NATO obviously knows about it and their plans to come out and announce they will be no part of the Attack Iran Alliance.

The other two Saudi and the USA need to be making statements to let us all know their intentions and co operation in this insanity.

 

Even though I'm one of your much-hated supporters of Israel, it is obvious even to someone like me that this little "revelation" by Mossad and the Shin Bet was an internally choreographed drama designed to leak a warning to Amadinejad that Netanyahu keeps his ratty little ass ever in the cross-hairs of Israel's powerful weaponry.

The danger is that if Amadinejad does indeed have his legs tingle at the idea of a gigantic end-it-all war, so that all good little Muslims can go to "Islamoheaven" where the virgins and young boys await them, he might welcome the death and carnage that such "warnings" would entail....

 

The Zionists can't even stop a few rockettes fired by their victims in Gaza. How do you propose that they stop a concerted effort to target Dimona by ballistic missiles, close-range surface-to-surface missiles simultaneously with air and ground attack ? Remember, just one nuclear blast and Israel is uninhabitable, Palestine too.

 

UN is a toothless entity, which the US and Israel routinely ignore.

Unless it is a US resolution that happens to involve the Muslims they wish to slaughter, en masse. Then the UN are very important to them. Funny that, isn't it?

Or not, as the case may be.

From what we can gather here, there are individuals within the Israeli intelligence services, foreign and domestic, who are prepared to act almost as 'whistleblowers. Is this perhaps an indication that Israel are imploding from the inside out?

How long will it be before we see members of their intelligence services given a remit to murder other members of the same intelligence services? After all, if the US can kidnap(sorry, arrest) one of their own, Bradley Manning, for having the courage to try to let Americans know what their Gov are up to (which patriotic Americans should salute him for having the guts to do it), does what I say sound so unfeasible?

I often make what I believe to be valid comparisons between what Israel has become and Germany, in the 30's and 40's.

You be familiar, one would assume, of the story of the Night Of The Long Knives, a good example, if ever one were needed, as to how rats will turn on each other, if need be.

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zz8DoIgSxQc"]The Assassination of Ernst Röhm (Night of the Long Knives) - YouTube[/ame]

 

Show me something of worth in which Amadinejad EVER states that his desire is to see the end of the world war?

The fact that you invoke the 'virgins' BS illustrates to me that you are simply spewing out BS. Still, I guess if you take (*)(*)(*)(*) in, you get (*)(*)(*)(*) out.

There are those that get a boner at the idea of an end of the world war. They are not Muslims, they are Zionist Americans, usually not Jewish. They are not on the fringes of life, either, on the contrary, a lot of them have great influence within the White House, and right across the (contaminated) US political system. These lunatics have wet dreams thinking about a nuclear war, as this would, in the minds of the mentally ill, be a 'prophesy fullfilled'.

These Rapture whackjobs have been convinced into believing that when this happens, most Jews, all but 144,000, will be killed.

At that moment, 'Jesus' will return, and those 144,000 surviving Jews will, in the blink of an eye, convert to Christianity, and be 'saved', along with 'real Christians (including dead one's), presumably so that they can sit on a fecking cloud for the rest of their days.

In all truth, such thinking should be treated, perhaps with Seroquel and intense counselling.

This is almost half an hour long, which I appreciate is about 29 mins longer than the average attention span of haters of Semites, however, lest someone may find the time...

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YYWlB64upSc&feature=player_embedded"]Onward, Christian Zionists - YouTube[/ame]

Incidentally, the so called 'Jews' of Israel today, they are not true Jews. True Jews are semites, and lived in Palestine, alongside Christians and Muslim, for a long time, and in relative harmony. The Jews in Israel today are not semites, they are European immigrants, and those who converted to Judaism. The true Palestinian Jews, the semite Jews, they were always treated badly by the non semite fake Jews.

 

There are several prevailing ideas of how the "end-times" will occur, according to various kinds of Christians, and not all Christians believe the same thing. If you really want to examine the topic in depth, I suggest "Days of Vengeance", by David Chilton. But be prepared to take some time -- it's a very detailed, long book.

But the whole thing about the Islamoheaven, and the virgins, and the young boys? You mean you never read any of that, which is found in the Koran itself? You can probably find a thousand links without even trying hard, but start with this one: http://www.flex.com/~jai/satyamevajayate/heaven.html

Poor Amadinejad... virgins do not make for much of a "good time", as most of us guys know. They're too whiney and clingy, and then there's all that mess.... And as far as the young boys go, well, I've never suffered the mental illness that makes one want to sex around on others with the same plumbing that I have, but then again, I doubt very much that I'm going to go to Islamoheaven, either... thank God....

 

To any rational person, any idea of an invisible afterlife in which you get some sort of reward, is laughable.

I really fail to see how any modern and educated person can hold to that idea, unless they are utterly self deluded.

I try to be the best person I can, I try to be a good son, a good dad, a good grandad, and a good friend. I do my very best. I don't expect heavens, afterlife, virgins, or any other imaginary reward. I do it because I get pleasure from doing the right thing, and trying to make those around me a little happier.

I recall a conversation that I once had with a college educated women, from Boston. She had such a simplistic view of the Bible, and it became apparent that she didn't even understand much of what she was subscribing to. She did not like it pointed out to her either, and took ANY observation of religion, esp her one, as a personal attack on her. Sad.

Anyway, she is married with a couple of kids.

I asked her who she loved more - her husband and kids or 'god'. She said 'god'. So very sad.

In essence, she loves something that probably doesn't exist, rather than the man she is married to, and her own flesh and blood kids.

That can be a deluded and dangerous thing.

I hope that humanity one day grows up and out of this.

Jack

 

Israel attacks first before the Dimona attack occurs. It worked in the Six-Day War. And as for the nuclear blast factor, why are the Palestinians trying to go to war with a people that have at least 150 nuclear weapons? The Israelis will NEVER surrender - they will expel the Palestinians first and fight any subsequent war the Arabs throw at them. And if they find they are losing that war they will nuke the Arab nations attacking them.

<<< MOD EDIT: INSULT REMOVED >>> Righteous indignation and stupid terrorist tactics will achieve little beyond encouraging the bulk of Israelis to adopt a more hard-line position towards the Palestinians (well on its way as I write this). By the way, the geography of Israel/Palestine means it would take at least two nuclear warheads, unless the one is a real big warhead.

 

Yeah, see, what I would do if some bullies with weapons bulldozed my home, and killed my family, what I'd do is SWEAR vengence, no matter what they had.

Israel are out of control, and the US, the EU, and the UN, they should morally and ethically(and legally) get together to ensure that Israel respect human rights, and return to their pre 67 borders. All illegal settlements should be demolished, by force if need be, and the 600,000 Israeli's on them told to move.

 

OK, Jack, whatever you say.... Anyway, back on topic, I doubt that Netanyahu was shocked (SHOCKED!) by anything that Mossad or the Shin Bet offered the world as a "revelation". And I doubt that Amadinejad was very surprised, either. But whether he wants to go to Islamoheaven soon or not, he'd better be very careful.

You see, the reality is that Israel has no real friends anymore since we elected the kind of person that we did to our presidency. And whether Obama is really a Muslim, or a member of the Black Liberation Church, his theological orientation is inimical to that of Israel, on top of any other antipathy that Obama has toward it. Bottom line: Netanyahu isn't going to second-guess himself if he feels he has to "pull the trigger" to defend his country, because for the first time since the creation of the Jewish State over 65 years ago, we have a U. S. President in power that Israel cannot trust at all....

 

because they understand what it means?

... unlike mr yahoo

 

the only people who ever talk about this stuff are those who have an obsessive hatred of muslims ....

that they obsess about this stuff too suggests what their idea of heaven is.

 

Gator NEVER criticises real anti semitism when it appears here.

he doesn't have a problem with that, only with people who criticise Israel.

 

Every US president since Eisenhower has tried to get Israel to agree to a just peace...

Israel has NO reason to distrust Obama.. Israel simply refuses a peace plan.. Nothing new in that.

Remember what Bibi said? He cursed Obama as J Street Jew...