News covers fake girlfriend, but not 500,000 marching on DC.

I suspect we all want everyone's best interest respected. Unfortunately, in the minds of some, duty, honor, sacrifice and selflessness are despicable words because their meaning is the interest of others before self. Not a life philosophy for selfish and worldly generations. All of the descriptive words in the first sentence can be summed up...love for another. Nature dictates the nurturer of new life, though both are responsible for those entrusted to their care. Regardless of the formed appearance of any human life, their life should not be taken because of their appearance, innocence, inability of a successful physical self defense or the dependent relationship shared with those involved in bringing about this new life.

Sincerely, why do you see selective-sex abortion as a non-issue/problem in the USA? How do you know that is not taking place in America's abortion mills?

 

That none of that is your business grannie. You are prochoice...so any reason a woman has...should not matter to you. Your position is whackedout. What difference should a medical condition have? What if a mother does not want another boy? girl? Is it her right or not? And how can you of all people....who champions abortion on demand.....have the right to tell her what is moral and what is not moral....right or wrong?
You tell me I am wrong for opposing abortion...and then you turn around and tell some woman she should not be a mother...if she would abort for the reason of sex selection. Grannie is there something wrong with abortion? LOL

Of course there is....your making that case perfectly. Kill on demand......for all the reasons...YOU SEE FIT TO KILL.

 

DixNickson said,

Why would or should Cady care that this would be the reason some abortions are done? Its the womans business they said so themselves. The woman owns her body and her child. She should call the shots. They should make this statement..."Who cares if a woman aborts a certain sex for the reasons THEY want...its THEIR CHOICE."

Have you seen any make a statement like this? No and you won't. They think we are horrible for wanting to deny women abortions....and then they TURN AROUND AND DO THE SAME THINGS FOR ALL THE REASONS THEY FIND MORAL.

 

Exactly. So people who will only accept a child of one gender should not be parents anyway, please allow them to abort. We don't need to get hung up on reasons. But there is a valid reason even for those who oppose abortion generally to allow abortion for sex selection in the case of a family history of sex-linked genetic disease.

 

Well that is your immoral viewpoint. Killing is your solution...everything goes for you guys. But why do you say they shouldn't be parents? You are judging them based on YOUR BIAS. What right do you have to make a moral decision for someone else.. when your position is one of the most immoral positions one could ever have? And your a grandmother? God help your grandchildren. Do they know you don't value them?

 

And you would like to make moral decisions for others all the time based on your own bias .. how are you any different?

 

the national March for Life. happens every year.

i didnt hear any news about this....

 

Whether it's sex-selective or not, over 50% aborted human beings are female. This is not to mention those women damaged by feeling forced to kill their progeny because they have no other "choice."

 

And in the minds of some, duty, honor, sacrifice, and selflessness are traits only a pregnant woman should possess. Putting others before one's self could apply to national health care, social welfare, public education, housing assistance and more. It means making people's lives a little better, a little easier, rather than forcing additional burdens on them. Summed up, love for others. A woman in a desperate and insecure situation is not likely to welcome the news of her pregnancy; it's unrealistic to expect her to love a fetus that will turn her life upside down. The best we can hope for is that women never have to face an unwanted pregnancy. We can help by providing the necessary sex education and affordable contraception. That is the selfless thing to do, and the only proven means of reducing abortion.

"according to the Centers for Disease Control, the sex ratio — the number of baby boys born per 1,000 baby girls — has actually been decreasing slightly but steadily over the last 30 years. In 1983, 1,052 boys were born for every 1,000 girls born in the US; in 2009, 1,048 boys were born for every 1,000 girls."
http://thinkprogress.org/health/2012/05/29/491703/sex-selective-abortion-sting/

 

Love for one and denial of the same for the most defenseless, an unjust sentence to a violent and deadly (most of the time) attack by and from the empowered? I suggest the best and most effective pathway from abortion is birth.

Do we really know why each mother kills her developing child short of her proclaiming her reason? Mothers who offer their unborn children up to death do not have to provide any reason for taking the child's life.

 

Forced birth?

All of your dramatic,emotional rhetoric does nothing to reduce abortion. That will happen when the underlying problems are addressed, and not before then.

 

I'm for natural birth with the option of pain relief if so desired.

Cady!! You type as if you know me. Sheepishly, I admit that I am passionate at times. You got me, I am cut to the quick by your keyboard of conviction!

The underlying moral shortcoming is a lack of respect for the temporarily dependant life of another.

Good Night Dear Domestic Princess of the Internet

 

Yes, state-enforced gestation, followed by state-enforced birth, a potential risk to a woman's mental and physical health, life, and permanent damage to her body. And you think you have the moral high ground...

Based on what? Not the Bible.

 

Relativism works here. It was done for her, morally it should be reciprocated to mankind. Furthermore, parents' actions led to conception, ergo there is no moral ground on which destruction of life is justified (sans direct bodily threat to the mother's physical life).

 

Does that mean that people who choose not to have children are immoral?

I have a feeling that is your perception of morality, and not something from the Bible.

 

Not necessarily. It depends on their reasons.

That is what I was saying. Did you need Biblical evidence, or secular?

 

What, to you, would be an immoral reason to not have children?????

 

Cady said,

A potential risk for mental and physical health, permanent damage? And yet you say that abortion does nothing like it to the woman who has the abortion, who has killed her child. Hmmmmm
No consequences for the woman who kills her baby...no depression, remorse, regret....no problems. All abortions go smoothly, no repercussions from an abortion that did not go well eh?

You are sooooo one sided....blind.

And you have the gall to mention the Bible.......a pagans view, yours is.

 

Cady said,

"All of your dramatic,emotional rhetoric does nothing to reduce abortion. That will happen when the underlying problems are addressed, and not before then."

Your right..no one should feel anything towards the unborn who is burned, ripped apart, dissected and tossed in a trash can, right? This shows someones heart...it exposed their character, their compassion towards life. Emotional rhetoric....you wouldn't get emotion honey....that much is obvious. You are devoid of it when it comes to the truth in the womb.
The fact is....you don't want to reduce abortion. Why would you? Come on. You think there is nothing wrong with it...its not immoral. So if something is not immoral...why would you state that we should reduce it? Makes no sense. So why do you want to reduce something you see as moral and not bad?

What are the underlying problems? ?????????? Abortion is not bad is it? Why should there be problems?

 

I thought the modern female's body was designed to carry and nurture the developing human child within her womb. And I would wager that, in general, a woman who did not abort or resisted state's leadership's urging to not have her child would give birth. Afterall isn't birth the natural conclusion when a mother carries her child to term? Yea Nature!!

Was thinking it innate in our humanity, in His image sort of thing. Hey, Cady, because of your answer to your own question, If you believe that God is the Author of life (if not disregard the following questions) and as (a few, some, many, maybe all?) Christians believe He used this very process (conception-pregnancy-to live birth) to introduce the Messiah into this world, then why would He be against the birth of the child? Do you believe the Bible is against the birth of the child?

 

and so it is, if the woman chooses to do so.

If you are going to talk about nature, lets really talk about it .. how about the fact that man has been playing with nature from the earliest settlers, how they took wild animals and domesticated them, how they took wild plants and cross breed them, how many, many people alive today would be dead if it weren't for mans intervention in nature, how in the 1800's maternal mortality rate was around 55 per 1,000 declining to less than 10 per 1,000 in late 1900's .. perhaps man should remove himself from tampering with nature all together . .you know remove all those live saving operations, all that premature birth specialized equipment .. yeah lets all go back to the good old days of letting nature take her course.

 

If you're pregnant and it's simply an "inconvenient" time.

 

define what "inconvenient" means to you?

 

That doesn't mean that it isn't a threat to a woman's mental and physical health, life and and resulting in permanent damage to her body. In some countries, pregnancy/childbirth is the most dangerous thing a woman can experience.

About 50% of fertilized eggs fail to implant. In addition to that, about one in six embryos either spontaneously abort or result in stillbirth. I don't know what you mean by "state's leadership's urging to not have her child."

So, it isn't from the Bible, but from your "thinking."

Being pro-choice does not mean "against the birth of the child."

 

Cady posted , "Does that mean that people who choose not to have children are immoral?"""

Oh, at first I thought you meant before they got pregnant....so if you follow the conversation as you mean it, then you say abortion isn't necessarily immoral depending on your reason....

Which still doesn't make any sense....