News covers fake girlfriend, but not 500,000 marching on DC.

Cady said,

And so it seems the pro-abort crowd does not possess them.

The pro-choicer certainly does not put anyone in front of them certainly not children...Oh wait, maybe the seals or the endangered whales.

And children are a burden, right? Women's lives are better if they kill their unborn children. Doing what is right is a burden to those who are pro-choice.

The love for others? Not children, right? Its always about hatred for you people. We have comprehensive sex education in our schools. Magazines are filled with sex information, television and movies, internet...you would have to be a complete moron not to know about sex.

Why do you want to reduce abortion..is it bad or something?

 

The anti-abortion crowd certainly possesses certain traits, I think the biggest one is how every anti-abortionist is extremely controlling of others in nature.

Actually you have that wrong, pro-choicers DO care about children, we actually care about living breathing, thinking, feeling and post birth CHILDREN! It is the anti-abortionists who do not care for children, they only care about the fetus and then post-birth it means absolutely nothing to them and if they're a girl all they're concerned with is that they assure they are in control of what happens with her uterus from that point forward. That's the controlling mentality I was talking about earlier.

Welcome to reality churchmouse. I know it's a horrible thing to say let alone hear but it's the truth. Unplanned children can be a serious burden to a person, why else do you think so many women abandon their parental rights and their responsibility of their children by putting them into the adoption system?

If anyone is constantly screaming hate here it is you, you hold so much hatred in your heart for living, breathing thinking people, the very same people you so despise and converse with here on these forums, so please, do not lecture us about hatred.

Also yes, we do have comprehensive sex education in schools, sex ed that conservatives and right wing religious fanatics are fighting so hard against and are pushing to remove from schools.

It's only natural to want to reduce something that is unpleasant for a woman. Unplanned pregnancy and a resulting surgical procedure is not something women usually want to experience. Reducing unplanned pregnancies (which ultimately reduces abortion as well) is a good thing in the eyes of both pro-choicers and pro-lifers I think.

Why? Are you against this?

 

Any reason that is not an imminent threat to her bodily life.

 

And for some women pregnancy is a threat to her "bodily life".

 

Of course it's morally justifiable to defend one's life. It's called justifiable homicide. NO pro-lifer believes one can't defend oneself against imminent death. That's a pro-abort straw-man fallacy.

 

When you have legislators uninformed about medical treatments, you get results like the following:

http://www.slate.com/articles/news_...banning_abortion_for_rape_victims_is_the.html

Walsh, a House incumbent in Illinois, asserted that “with modern technology and science, you can't find one instance” where abortion is necessary to protect a woman’s life or health. “There is no such exception as life of the mother,” Walsh concluded. “And as far as health of the mother, same thing.

 

What is your point? That he's an idiot? Granted. That doesn't change the fact that there are very, very few instances where woman's life REQUIRES abortion. Premature induction is not necessarily a death sentence for a baby, whereas dismembering and sucking out the remains is always an execution.

 

The Personhood Movement makes no exception for the life of the woman.

 

The point is that there are plenty of "idiots" and loons out there who want to have NO exceptions for an abortion ban.

 

Please provide some sort of documentation of this. If a woman is dying, and removing the fetus is a cure, I do not believe any pro-lifer would argue. The woman is a "person" also. Being pregnant does not change that. However, as I said, there are very, very few instances where that might occur, and it is primarily when the woman already has a life threatening disease process.

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No one listens to those idiots, and they catch flak for being uneducated.

 

From the American Life League, "the largest grassroots Catholic pro-life education organization in the United States:"
"There is only one purpose for abortion — ending the life of the child. The "life of the mother" situation for abortion is simply bogus."
http://www.all.org/nav/index/heading/OQ/cat/MzQ/id/NjA4MA/

"A personhood amendment has no exceptions. But what if a pregnancy threatens the life of the mother? The doctor's goal should be to save mom and the baby if possible. The goal should never be to kill the mother to save the baby, nor to kill the child to save the mother."
http://americanrtl.org/life-of-the-mother-exception

 

Man plays with what Nature offers, but I don't think we can call ourselves Nature's master. We have learned to work within the parameters Nature allows us.

Mortality rates were dramatically improved, among other advances, when the physician's personal hygiene became a mindset priority.

Moreover, with or without our permission, Nature still sets her course to this very moment.

 

I never said I had a problem with making decisions for others....YOUR SIDE DOES THAT. YOU THINK YOU ARE SO TOLERANT AND THE FACT IS THAT IS BULL.
If you deny a woman the rights to her body in regards to getting a late term abortion....THEN YOU ARE GUILTY.

Your the ones who thinks, who has tried to convince yourself that your position is so tolerant. The fact is it isnt. And you do what you tell us we have no right to do.

 

Lets see here...are you attacking the position or those holding it?

Is this following the rules here?

 

Walking across the street can be a risk. However, a woman's bodily form and design (aside from being aesthetically appealing to the male eye) is intended to carry and nurture the child.

Generally, an uninterrupted pregnancy will culminate in birth...what contrasting "choice", as nature has already designated an outcome (reference your stats), do you specifically offer?

 

Those idiots were ELECTED by idiot Anti-Choice, Anti-Woman voters, those idiots are capable of making laws, those idiots ARE dangerous to women, they promote The War on Women.

 

If the expectant mother dies, her child dies. If mother's body can't sustain her child's life, the child would need to be rescued. Mother would be one patient and her child the other patient.

 

And it should be a person's choice whether to take that risk.

That doesn't mean she should be forced to if she doesn't want to. She also has a brain that was designed to help her make her own life decisions.

 

Pasithea said,

We certainly do...traits opposite of the ones you hold, thank God.
Abortion goes against nature....you try to control nature...before nature can progress.

I doubt it...really. I am sure if you had an imperfect child, or one dying you would want to dispose of them as well....clinics that kill them...you know to put them out of their misery.But then you wouldn't have one...cause if you had prior knowledge to its condition in the womb...you would kill it before it was born. Thats the pro-choice mentality. I won't even say morals...the position does not have one.

"It is the anti-abortionists who do not care for children, they only care about the fetus and then post-birth it means absolutely nothing to them and if they're a girl all they're concerned with is that they assure they are in control of what happens with her uterus from that point forward. That's the controlling mentality I was talking about earlier."

Wrong...we are the ones donating the time and money and energy to make life better for pregnant women...not you. Your solution is kill. You think those who work in CPCenters are pro-choice? LMAO Any work that is done to help good causes is not done by your side.
Yours is the "narcissistic mentality" its all about YOU....AND YOU....AND YOU. Not about the mother or what she might suffer through an abortion. Ya don't care what she might go through. You only care about YOU.

REality is the emptiness and pathetic position you hold...it defines your person. Everything burdons your group...because its selfishness that motivates you. You can't understand why anyone would want, care and love an imperfect child, one with Downs...or another handicap. You live in that BraveNewWorld....of coldness..shallowness. You cant value something you don't love...and you don't love life unless its your own.

I hate your position...I think its disgusting, cold, shallow. It lacks compassion and love and everything good society could hope to offer. I think your position is evil...and I believe evil spreads...like a disease. It is the pro-choice disease that is threatening society and life today. It will get worse...you and your ilk will soon insist on centers that will kill those imperfect people that are not killed in the womb. The child who is terminal...handicapped....the depressed. That is the natural progression of your worldview.
I don't hate you, I pity you, I feel sorry for you.

No just the ones that preach killing...by abortion. The people who support children getting abortions behind their parents backs...the people who think they can raise others children and brainwash their thinking. Thats people like you.

What is unpleasant? Life, childrens laughter? What? Certainly you don't mean abortion is unpleasant....? Why abortion is great, right? Its safe, and feels good...and there is such euphoria...in killing a tiny life in the womb. Its something women should do more often, right? Cause there is nothing wrong with abortion is there?
Why would you want to reduce that?

 

So, in your opinion, there should be no exception for the life of the woman?

 

""" a woman's bodily form and design (aside from being aesthetically appealing to the male eye) is intended to carry and nurture the child."""


What sexist, insulting, thing to say about women.

Women's bodies were designed to breath, think, eat, dance, sing, run corporations, play basketball, walk, run, ski, feel, be Senators and World leaders, Queens, , fight in wars, fly fighter planes and experimental jets, ride horses, shoot guns, gut and butcher deer, plant gardens, build houses, design computer software, teach physics, travel in space, climb the Himalayas, surf, etc.,........


It is NOT all about men and breeding.

 

Saw some show snippet recently that President Obama is going on "the Pill" in support of women and to solidify his position regarding the War on Women. Ain't he the coolest President ever!!!!

I would never go to war with any woman; it is really about that "Hell hath no fury" passion thing and Momma not raising no fool! Been there, can you say "really scary?"

In addition, I have always found independent, empowered, confident, pistol-packing women extremely attractive BUT find they are also very accurate markswomen...again can you say "really scary."

 

And looking good doing it!!! I love it!!! All of the above, what a turn-on!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Thanks WN!!!!!

Sure take a statement out of context and work it to suit your anti-Dix agenda WN!

Sincerely, a woman is much more than her figure or make-up. She is a man's partner and helper (if she is so inclined). What eludes man a woman typically possesses.

But I have to say;

My name is Dix and I find the woman and her form to be both God's greatest earthly mystery and work of art. Every woman has been blessed with appealing qualities and attributes. One need only the "eye" to "see" it.

 

Why do you consider women as mysteries ? Maybe as all HUMANS are mysteries but one sex is no more "mysterious" than another.

 

So a fetal deformity non compatible with life doesn't count .. what about rape or incest or a mental state of a 7 year old or already having 4 children living in poverty or being an addict (creating an addicted baby) or living on the streets or underage or to old (Increased chance of having a baby with a congenital abnormality, such as Down’s syndrome. Increased risk of pre-eclampsia)