NFL Announces ‘Black National Anthem’ Will Be Performed at Super Bowl

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  1. MelshieMaze

    MelshieMaze Well-Known Member

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    But this former fan felt it was necessary to weigh in on this and be wrong the whole way through.
     
  2. conservaliberal

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    Nobody's "butthurt" about this "Lift Every Voice" song. It's just another song -- BUT -- to try to equate it in ANY way with our National Anthem is a cheap attempt to just slam everybody with "guilt" who isn't Black about things that were corrected many years ago, and to deliberately whip up more smoldering resentment and bad feelings between Blacks and everybody else.

    You want to talk about injustice? How about the way that the Chinese were treated when they came over here to labor like animals -- Black slaves were treated better than those Chinese railroad builders were, but you don't hear anybody suggesting that we need to play some Chinese tune in the same way that we revere "The Star Spangled Banner"!
     
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    Obama won the elections 2 and a half months before becoming President. If you still don't get it, don't worry. It's not important.

    He did many things. The most relevant of them being bringing LIGHT to the inequalities. But not to go off topic, since the OP seems to think that the "Black National Anthem" brings light. Obama made it famous by... singing it.
     
  4. conservaliberal

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    It could be asserted that Barack Obama was a better singer than he was a president! And, if what Blacks really want is their own separate country, unsoiled by contact with other races, then maybe the "Messiah" can go be their president, too!

    [​IMG]. "What it be's...." :spin:
     
  5. Steve N

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    Obama made race baiting part of the left's political pandering. He also made it so any criticism of him or a POC is automatically racist. But just remember, it was historic.
     
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    Where the hell did you get THAT idea?

    Sounds pretty white supremacist to me. Let me guess... was it from Tucker you heard it? Or David Duke?

    Whoever it was who said it that's a very hard core bigot.
     
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    Well, you're entitled to your opinion but not your facts.:applause:
     
  8. MelshieMaze

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    You haven’t brought any facts so.
     
  9. MelshieMaze

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    That’s clearly a lie because you felt it was so important to whine about you made a whole thread about it and then added in some dumbass rant there.

    It’s just another song to you, bruh. No one’s telling you to sing it or like it, and no one is making you watch the Super Bowl so you can just skip the entire game and go on with your daily life like normal people do. But don’t sit there and claim it’s just another song just because you’re apparently allergic to Google.

    What fcking universe do you live in where people being in full blown slavery considered being treated “better” than those railroad builders? Tell me how any of what you just said makes any kind of sense, because that was just dumb.
     
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    Well, that was aimed at you but this discussion has become pointless.
    Later
     
  11. conservaliberal

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    Well, what we've seen ever since the end of the Civil War, and especially after the Civil Rights Act of 1964 and the Voting Rights Act of 1965, is that the United States has done everything constitutionally and legally possible to ensure the full recognition of Blacks into legally equal participation in the life of this country as fellow citizens!

    But, in spite of this, as the decades have dragged on, it seems over and over that Blacks want instead to be insular, separate, and unwilling to embrace the same challenges, the same opportunities, and the same responsibilities as other Americans. Why is that? And the real irony is that all the same while, they're always clamoring that what they demand is "diversity", "equity", and "inclusiveness"! Remember -- all American citizens are EQUAL BEFORE THE LAW!

    So which is it? Do Blacks want to be part of the big 'mixing bowl' known as the United States of America with the rest of us, or, would they really prefer to just go off and be entirely by themselves, perhaps in a separate country of their own, with its own 'national anthem', its own flag, its own constitution, its own laws, and the whole different set of paradigms...?
     
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    Why were slaves treated better? Isn't it obvious? Because slaves were actually expensive -- to buy, to clothe, to house, to feed, and to keep healthy enough to be good workers! But, because wanna-be Socialists rarely take something so mundane as "economics" into their thinking, I doubt this even occurred to you.

    By contrast, the Chinese men came over here, hired onto railroad construction crews (and as miners, and other menial jobs) and there was no obligation whatever on the part of employers to clothe them, house them, feed them, or keep them healthy enough to produce the expected work. They either worked to the satisfaction of the bosses, or they were thrown out. And if they got sick or injured, they were discarded. Nobody cared about them at all, and if they died, they were just thrown in a ditch somewhere, and nobody gave a damn.

    Oh, and did you know that when the Irish immigrants came over here and took similar jobs, they were treated roughly the same, too. Oh, but the liberal-Left doesn't recognize the bad treatment of anyone but Blacks, and don't think that has escaped the notice of all the rest of us.

    Now... if I we can just come up with some kind of Chinese "national anthem"... got any suggestions?
     
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    It's like Kwanza... an entirely made up wedge to divide folks with. If we're going to have a black national anthem, don't we need to establish a black nation for which it could refer back to?
     
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    Its actually more popular than ever. Trump did his best to turn people against each other even with football, and many declared they will boycott football because of that. However, with people like him out of the picture the games are back bringing Americans together like never before. Even games streaming only on Amazon Prime are pulling in nearly 10 million viewers on a WEEK DAY. And yes, it's a good thing, not a bad thing. Being butthurt over the pre-game song selection makes people special kind of snowflakes. National Anthem is sang first, and then other songs follow, and no one pays any attention to them, - except the snowflakes and even they do it only because they are told to do it.

    Thanksgiving Week, The Latest Example Of The NFL’s Popularity
    On 2021 the NFL had 75 programs among the top 100. Coming off last February's Super Bowl LVII, which was the top-rated program of all-time averaging 115.1 million viewers. This season, halfway through the NFL's regular season, the telecasts have been averaging 17.3 million viewers, a year-over-year increase of 6%.Dec 1, 2023
    https://www.forbes.com/sites/bradad...ample-of-the-nfls-popularity/?sh=3b583c041cb3
     
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    No, I know what the civil war was about. Doesn't change anything about the NA and what it was written about.
    The only eye popping rage is happening with those who quit watching the NFL 6 yrs ago because of protests by players and now those same people who no longer watch the NFL are eye popping rage again because the NFL is playing a black NA.

    A song isn't politics. The NFL isn't politics. Those with eye popping rage over a song are making it about politics. When most of them don't even watch the NFL.
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    "The Star-Spangled Banner" is the national anthem of the United States. The lyrics come from the "Defence of Fort M'Henry",[2] a poem written on September 14, 1814, by 35-year-old lawyer and amateur poet Francis Scott Key after witnessing the bombardment of Fort McHenry by British ships of the Royal Navy in Outer Baltimore Harbor in the Patapsco River during the Battle of Baltimore in the War of 1812. Key was inspired by the large U.S. flag, with 15 stars and 15 stripes, known as the Star-Spangled Banner, flying triumphantly above the fort during the U.S. victory.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Star-Spangled_Banner
     
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    Yes. Especially for all those who don't watch the NFL anymore.
    It has NO Impact of their lives.

    The words were of the NA were written in 1814.

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    "The Star-Spangled Banner" is the national anthem of the United States. The lyrics come from the "Defence of Fort M'Henry",[2] a poem written on September 14, 1814, by 35-year-old lawyer and amateur poet Francis Scott Key after witnessing the bombardment of Fort McHenry by British ships of the Royal Navy in Outer Baltimore Harbor in the Patapsco River during the Battle of Baltimore in the War of 1812. Key was inspired by the large U.S. flag, with 15 stars and 15 stripes, known as the Star-Spangled Banner, flying triumphantly above the fort during the U.S. victory.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Star-Spangled_Banner
     
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    Nope. It's for Free America. Slaves were not free. Neither were the Natives.
    Even after the civil war to end slavery, doesn't mean America was welcoming to Blacks. A new era of discrimination unfolded.

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    “A universal signifier of Black identity”
    “Lift Every Voice and Sing” was written during a fraught moment in African-American history. At the dawn of the 20th century, post-Civil War reconstruction efforts were being dismantled; segregation had been codified through Plessy v Ferguson; and a Jim Crow reign of terror and exploitation was taking hold across the country.
    https://time.com/5864238/black-national-anthem/
     
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    No we haven't. To this day black people drag the disadvantages of their parents.

    Yeah... we could call it "Auschwitz". I think your solution has been tried and it didn't go too well.

    I have a better solution. Instead of forcing black people to move, why not gather bigots who complain because of a song in the Super Bowl and ship THEM instead to this "Republic of Auschwitz" that you propose?
     
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    IT DOES NOT
     
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    Never said the song was racist. I said it wasn't for all Americans.
    I don't need to qualify anything I haven't said.
    Old people always see things as a means to divide. The NFL sees it as a way to bring Americans of ALL colors together and stop looking at people for their color. It's being used to unite folks under the age of 60.
     
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    I was not whining, I clarified, the Star Spangled Banner was written for free Americans. Which is true, it's in the song/poem.
    Only White Americans were free when it was written.
    Speaking the truth isn't whining. At least to those who are not actually whining about another song.
     
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    They only lost the old people crowd that is not for Black Americans. Certainly not the future NFL fans.

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    The National Football League’s (NFL) divisional round playoff games reached an average of 38.2 million domestic viewers across TV and digital, the highest number ever recorded for that stage of the postseason.

    https://www.sportspromedia.com/news...-viewership-cbs-fox-nbc/?zephr_sso_ott=9Ln4vl
     
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    Only to the sleep racists of the country.
    He made the racists, woke.
     
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    Fair enough , I would say that you claiming the NA is for a certain skin color implies racism, but I'm not interested in getting dragged into a silly semantics argument with you.

     
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    What you may see is only from your eyesight.
     

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