NFL Announces ‘Black National Anthem’ Will Be Performed at Super Bowl

How to know if you are a white supremacist:
1. Is your wife white? If yes, you are a white supremacist.
2. Are your neighbors white? If yes, you are a white supremacist.
3. How many black friends have been in your home in the past year? If the answer is 0, you are a white supremacist.

These are called revealed preferences. Your actions tell everybody what kind of person you are, your words are simply virtue signaling to hide your revealed preferences.

You have called another member a white supremacist. Based on my criteria above, are you a white supremacist?

 

You won't open your eyes to see that this inappropriate, politically-motivated inclusion of a "Black national anthem" with our real National Anthem is nothing more than radicals projecting their 'woke' agenda through low-brow 'guerrilla-theater'. SO, I'll only mention that if you think that "a song isn't politics", you may want to tell me why, to this day, some songs are considered so dangerous that it has been made illegal in some countries to play them in public at all -- along with displays of some forms of greetings, statues, banners and flags! A song that is adopted as a national anthem is a powerful, very meaningful SYMBOL, Dairy, just like our flag!

But in a larger sense, if Blacks really want to be regarded and respected simply as proud, ordinary American citizens -- just like all the rest of us who are made up of different races, with different ethnic backgrounds, then WHY are they always trying to push their BLACK presence, BLACK 'differentness', and BLACK uniqueness in a way that is so self-asserting and self-promoting ALL the time?! I've mentioned those of East-Asian (Oriental) backgrounds who came into this country during the 1800's under very difficult circumstances -- SO -- do we see them clamoring for attention to be paid to their 'differentness'? Are they always trying to call attention to themselves AS part of the East-Asian race? Do they agitate for "reparations" and "affirmative action", or demand time and presence before the Super Bowl to play some kind of racially-inspired "Chinese national anthem"...?! Do thoughts like that ever occur to you?

Probably not... but if you ever want to get arrested, go over to Germany and sing THIS! Don't tell me that "a song isn't politics"!

 

If Colin Kaepernick were there, do you think he would kneel during the playing of it? I guess the NFL has to have a woke ceremony to please some far left loon.

 

Well, Golem, the way the law and the Constitution see it, since 1965 we have been a nation in which all citizens of the United States are, indeed, equal before the law. That is exactly the way it should be in a constitutional federal republic! Your faction insists that for reasons explained no further than those in endless conjectures about "White supremacy" and "racism", that there's reasons for Blacks always to want to clamor for riveted attention from everybody else as being something weirdly different, exceptional, and unique -- instead of being simple, ordinary, everyday citizens like all the rest of us! What other purpose is there for some 'in-your-face' ruse like a "Black national anthem"...?

And, I suppose that as long as they keep this kind of thing 'in-our-faces', 24/7, that they'll get their wish and always be considered as a segment of society that doesn't WANT to be a part of the unified COLOR-BLIND nation... "just like the rest of us". Does anyone in your faction really think that THIS is what Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. actually wanted?!

 

Ok. Do you think that's acceptable? Why not change it if you feel some are being excluded from it? Why not include them?
Why make a whole other anthem, causing even further division and explicitly being labelled a national anthem for a particular race?
Can you not see how that will cause further division?

 

So what when it was made. Makes no difference. It was made our national anthem at a time when there were no slaves. It took on that aspect whether you want to admit it or not.

And the "national black anthem" being played has no impact on anyone else's lives either. Yet the people who want only our national anthem which is about freedom for all and includes everyone are the racist ones because "it has no impact on their lives". Talk about hypocritical.

 

Only in paper. In reality, black people can't even sing a song to air their grievances at the Super Bowl without people complaining.

You mean like being stopped by a cop and not fear for their life? Not being stopped and searched seven to eight times more often than white folk without any cause? Not being falsely convicted seven times more often than white people? They would nothing better.

The purpose is to point out to people like you that black people are NOT treated equally, like the narrative spewed by white supremacists like Hogan, Tucker and Alex Jones claims.

There are several threads in which all this was documented. For example:
http://www.politicalforum.com/index.php?threads/what-does-critical-race-theory-teach.589535/

If it hadn't been for the NFL programming the Black National Anthem, you would never have known that this was happening. Now you know. So there is no excuse.... You can now thank the NFL.

 

IT'S NOT inappropriate.
It's absolutely appropriate.

 

Well, all the woke ones that are pushing this crap sure are acting like they want their own country. Because they are doing nothing to be a part of this one.

 

I don't worry about such nonsense.
If the blacks want to have a song to represent them, so what.
As was discussed briefly, a new NA could be a solution.

Until there's a new anthem, we may just have some events that sing both. No one is hurt by that.

 

It does make a difference. The Land Of The Free, only pertained to white people. At that time, only white people were free.
How many times must you read that?
I agree, the whining about a black national anthem is highly hypocritical.

 

You just proved my point about Obama, any criticism of him is racist according to the left.

 

White people don't? East Asian people don't? Everyone is a product of their parents. But everyone also has a choice in how they conduct themselves through out their lives. And there isn't a single person that can't succeed if they try. In fact black people that come here from Africa in the present day have more of a "drag" on them than any black person born and raised in the US as they come from 3rd world countries. And guess what...they tend to succeed far more than their American counterparts. Why do you think that is?

Godwin for the win!!! That poster did not suggest in any way shape or form forcing anyone out of the country. That was your own biases projecting themselves.

 

No, it doesn't. Except to those that wish to ignore everything that has happened between now and then. To all but the bigoted haters of America, The National Anthem does not represent slavery, or "white people". Today it ONLY represents freedom from tyranny. You do not get to tell people what it means to them.

And once again, it is a falsehood, becoming a lie at this point, to claim that only white people were free even at the time that song was made. There WERE free black people. Free Asians. Free NA. Free brown people. To claim otherwise is to lie about history.

 

No. According to you.

 

The haters of America or non white America anyway, it seems, are those who are upset with the NFL for including another song.

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Despite what some fans might say about the hymn, the hymn itself was not made to promote division among the American people. The hymn was created in the context of African Americans as a prayer of Thanksgiving, faithfulness and freedom in the late 19th century by James Weldon Johnson and his brother J. Rosamond Johnson.

The former wrote the lyrics while the latter set the words to music and, in 1917, the NAACP began to promote the hymn as the "Black national anthem." In recent years, however, the hymn has been thrust to the forefront, due to the aforementioned events occurring in 2020.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nf...them-will-be-played-at-super-bowl/ar-BB1h2vCL

On a side note, who are you rooting for to win the Super Bowl?

 

You lack perspective and knowledge about the world when "The Star Spangled Banner" was written, Dairy.

Slavery was not abolished in Great Britain until 1834... slavery was not abolished in France until 1848! Slavery had already been practiced throughout much of the entire world for thousands of years, and although it is terrible to recall it now, Negroes were routinely considered to be somewhat 'less-than-human' -- a sort of sub-species that was not on the same level with other races. This was assumed based on the convenient truth that Black-on-Black slavery was practiced all the time in Sub-Saharan Africa, and the level of civilization itself there. No written language, slash-and-burn agriculture, a level of technology that didn't even include the wheel, and the most primitive kinds of tribal social structures.

Now, that didn't make slavery "right" or "good" in Britain, France, the United States, or anywhere else, of course. But THAT is a much more honestly accurate view concerning the world in which the United States became an independent nation and took its place among the other nations of the world in the 1800's....

It still escapes me why, 158 years after this horrible practice ended in the United States that Blacks want to be considered as something separate and conspicuously different from everybody else (as evidenced in this "Black national anthem" thing). Isn't that kind of thinking closely related to the scornful opinion that the British, the French, and Americans (among others) had of Black people in the first place? Why would any ethnic or racial group even WANT to have something as provocative as its own 'national anthem' at all in a society where all citizens are supposed to be color-blind and EQUAL BEFORE THE LAW...?

 

We are in the USA.
The Super Bowl is in the USA.
The song Lift Every Voice and Sing will be played at the Super Bowl.

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With widespread protests over police brutality and other injustices committed, such as the deaths of George Floyd, Jacob Blake and Breonna Taylor at the hands of police officers, the NFL began incorporating "Lift Every Voice and Sing" as a way to raise awareness to social justice issues and how some communities are disproportionally affected.

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Despite what some fans might say about the hymn, the hymn itself was not made to promote division among the American people. The hymn was created in the context of African Americans as a prayer of Thanksgiving, faithfulness and freedom in the late 19th century by James Weldon Johnson and his brother J. Rosamond Johnson.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nf...them-will-be-played-at-super-bowl/ar-BB1h2vCL

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What is the origin of the Black national anthem?
James Weldon Johnson wrote "Lift Every Voice and Sing" as a poem, and his brother, John Rosamond Johnson, set the poem to music in 1899. At this time, Jim Crow was replacing slavery. The song was first performed by 500 children at the segregated Stanton School in Jacksonville, Fla., where Weldon Johnson was the principal, to celebrate President Abraham Lincoln's birthday in 1900. The NAACP adopted the song as the Black national anthem in 1919.

https://parade.com/1059547/jessicasager/black-national-anthem-lift-every-voice-and-sing/

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On a side note, who you rooting for to win the Super Bowl?

 

Sorry, but I don't hate America. Or anyone in America. Leftists are the ones that hate America. They even admit it.

As far as the song goes...if its for everyone then why call it the "black national anthem"? Seems pretty exclusionary to me.

 

Well, you might not have noticed but getting current FAN figures are a bit hard to come by. If you were a die hard Bronco fan you'd know that until this woke thing started getting a ticket required an act of God, a loan, and righteous living. Now, you can buy em just about anywhere. And it ain't because the Broncos suck, they sucked in the 60's and 70's when we rooted for Floyd Little cause he was all they had. And you couldn't sell your family for a ticket then.
But lets look at some other news sources, shall we?
Map of US States Boycotting NFL After Support for Kneeling, Kaepernick (businessinsider.com)


And it isn't just the Woke NFL that's the problem; its hypocrisy at it's most bold;
NFL Hypocrisy: They Refuse to Ban Kneeling, But Banned All These Other Things (westernjournal.com)
Remember Tim Tebow and the fuss over him taking a knee at the end of the game? No big displays, no press conferences to explain himself, just Tim taking a knee at the end of the game, eventually other players joining him, a curious media minion asking, and all of a sudden we had God on the field, a huge fuss, and the NFL made Tim take a bible reference off of his face. There are other examples, and the NFL said it was because the uniforms were dictated by the NFL and would not be used for political expression.
Seen the back of an NFL helmet this year?
Hypocrisy.
NFL Hypocrisy: They Refuse to Ban Kneeling, But Banned All These Other Things (westernjournal.com)

Now, the main points are;
1) When an athlete, actor, or public figure uses their platform for political expression (or really for anything outside their lane) they are just about guaranteed to lose half their fan base. It's not that we object to the issue, it's that we go to watch football, or a comedy thing, or whatever, not be preached to (no matter how subtly) and it's bound to piss off a chunk of your fan base. Budweiser, Disney, et al can teach college level classes on "Go woke go broke".
2) If one wants to protest, the worst time to do it is when the American flag is presented and the Anthem sung. That time is reserved to take a moment to remember how it is we can afford to spend $400 to watch MILLIONAIRE athletes do their thing, or listen to a concert or whatever. Rather than revel in the moment we're reminded that some entitled RICH pampered *******s want to take the time to express their fake outrage and maybe get some publicity. If the NFL chose to allow a moment to kneel when the first score was made, or at half time, or at the end of the game, I don't think fans would have issue with it. See, it ain't the message, it's the PERCEPTION of what the message is, and when pampered MILLIONAIRE starlets take a knee during the anthem and presentation of the flag by first responders and/or military color guards the message is a mix of **** all y'all, I got mine, lets just concentrate on all the negatives before you watch me earn a MILLION or so, and blatant disrespect for this country and those who defend freedom.

Fan base?
The NFL just keeps shooting itself in the foot;
NBC Bragged About Streaming Numbers for Peacock-Only Playoff Game, and Fans Didn’t Want to Hear It - Sports Illustrated

NFL Fan Demographics: 76 User Facts & Numbers [2023] | TechPenny
Quick Demographic Facts About NFL Viewers

• 77% of NFL fans are Caucasian, with 15% being African-American/Black and 8% Hispanic.
• The largest age demographic of NFL fans is 55+, accounting for 37% of fans.
• 34% of NFL fans are in the 35-54 age demographic.
• In 2022, the average NFL attendance per game was nearly 70,000 people.
• NFL viewership decreased by 7% from 2019 to 2020, with average viewership per game of 16.5 million in 2019 compared to 15.3 million in 2020.
• In 2015, 47% of NFL viewers were women and 20% were aged 18-34, dropping to 14% in the younger group.
• In the 2020 NFL season, the largest share of viewers (36.5%) was between the ages of 35 and 49.

Now as an aside we've always been big fans of Bull riding as well as football. We now pretty much only watch/attend PBR events. Over the years a lot, as in the great majority of, riders (you know, the athlete stars like Kaepernick) are not from America. They're Brazilian, Canadian, Aussies, etc. And the fan base reflects that diversity as well.
And when the flag comes out, and the anthem is played every one, in the stands, the players, the announcer, all stand, remove their covers, cover their hearts, and stand in respect of the flag.
The Brazilians do it.
The Canadians do it.
The Aussies do it.
The American do it.
And God help the fan who doesn't. They get jeered and pointed out.

When the whole "take a knee for racial justice" movement was getting press, a media minion asked Adriano Morães (a Brazilian) why he stood for the American flag. Adriano has made MILLIONS riding bulls, he was probably the first non American to win a championship, and he certainly influenced the expansion of bull riding into a world sport.

His answer was that in Brazil opportunities are limited, no matter how hard one works, no matter their talent, they succeed or fail based on factors other than their own effort. In America, he said, no matter who you are, no matter your background or heritage or anything else, you can succeed based on your hard work and talents. He said America is truly a land of opportunity and is a shining example for all people to never give up their dreams. At least, he said, if you're American.

Something the rest of our pampered, narcissistic elite public figures need to be reminded of.

 

Since I no longer watch football I don't know what's on the back of the helmets. When I did watch it was the player's number and the American flag, what is there now, a picture of George Floyd or something similar?

 

Yea, and the the opposite if true with Miami Dolphins, and other teams which are doing well. Dolphins had a terrible 23 seasons after Dan Marino retired, and tickets were cheap, but no more. The Broncos of the past used to win Super Bowls and now they are losing games 17-70 (against Miami), so I dont blame their fans for not wanting to spend top dollar to watch such games. It has nothing to do with 'woke', and everything to do with the fact that they suck. They are getting rid of the QB again. Now many QBs have they had lately? 10?

Not exactly news when its 4 years old. Yes, 4 years ago we had a president playing people against each other using every issue he could think of including football, and some of his apologists actually punished themselves by refusing to watch their team play. I'd say you'd have to be a special kind of person to do that to yourself for some political agitator.

Now, with the agitator gone, football is more popular than ever.

This is political to you? He also paints the Christian crosses on his face. Surely that triggers you too.

 

Cool beans. Then I'm white supremacist according to you. Anything else?

Carry on corporal.

 

I don't agree that it does no harm. It is divisive. We should be uniting and not dividing along racial lines, if we ever want to get past racism.

 

I thought it was simply a matter of the event being held in the USA, so the US national anthem is played. If the event is held in Brazil, I would expect the Brazillian national anthem to be played. If it is in Canada, then the Canadian anthem, etc. If I am in Thailand and Thai anthem plays before an event, I am going to copy the behaviour of the locals to honour it, as a guest in their country. That's just basic respect. *shrug* When in Rome....