NFL Announces ‘Black National Anthem’ Will Be Performed at Super Bowl

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  1. MelshieMaze

    MelshieMaze Well-Known Member

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    Oh geez, just like every other post in this thread you’ve managed to be absolutely wrong once again. The biggest proof of this is how you’re under the delusion that because black slaves were more expensive that somehow means they were better treated, despite literally every single thing in history proving otherwise. So seriously, what the **** kind of point do you honestly think you’re trying to make?
     
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    Looks like you are already receiving (and believing) fake news of somebody who is woke and wants black people to be moved to a different country so white folk don't have to. Doesn't require too much of a mental effort to figure out that this is fake.
     
  3. MelshieMaze

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  4. MelshieMaze

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    Multiple posts here and last year have already answered this question and yet here you are asking the same question again.
     
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    Another unsupported uncited answer. Given the answer, we should just as likely be able to have an Asian National anthem. right?
     
  6. MelshieMaze

    MelshieMaze Well-Known Member

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    Close, but wrong as usual. It’s the flag along with a sentence that says “end racism” or “rise up” or any combination thereof. Nothing too exuberant.
     
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  7. MelshieMaze

    MelshieMaze Well-Known Member

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    Why don’t you crack Google open for a change and figure that out for yourself. You’re smart enough to type so I assume that’s not a problem, right?
     
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    Very few people would be triggered by it.

    People are so easily offended these days......
     
  9. Golem

    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    The parents of black people are a product of Jim Crow and, going further back to the parents of the parents of the parents... to slavery.

    And you think black people CHOSE to be terrified every time they are stopped because they know they are way more likely to be searched, or arrested, or even shot at... than everybody else.

    Looks like fake news is already very active in your Facebook in advance of the the campaign season. And if you believe the two things you just said in this forum, looks like you're ready to believe anything.

    Right. He suggested they go voluntarily.

    Historical tidbit: Did you know that the German people were told that the reason they were sending Jews to concentration camps was because they WANTED to go?
     
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    Kal'Stang Well-Known Member

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    Sounds to me like you're self projecting again.
     
  11. Kal'Stang

    Kal'Stang Well-Known Member

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    And the answers given haven't actually answered crap. Just demonstrated ignorance.
     
  12. conservaliberal

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    The point I made was the point I made, Melshie... no great mystery. Slaves were bought from tribal chieftains in Africa, and then were transported to the Western Hemisphere in ships, and that cost MONEY. Slaves were then sold in markets like any other "tool", and people paid MONEY for them. They were EXPENSIVE, and, (if you need to have it repeated) they cost MONEY! Do you seriously believe that slave-owners did anything to harm their own investments? Why would they do that...?!

    By contrast, in the 19th-century, China was already becoming greatly overpopulated. By the time of our Civil War, China's population reached 450 million or more, more than three times the level in the year 1500. Famine was widespread there, taxation was heavy, and corruption in the Qing Dynasty government was rife. SO, a lot of Chinese got in ships on their own, sailed to America, and took whatever jobs they could find. Unless they had family already over here to help them out, they were entirely on their own... nobody gave them a damned thing! As I said, although slaves had no freedom, they were at least provided for -- and by contrast, the only thing nearly all Chinese workers had was "the freedom to starve". If they didn't bust their asses working hard all the time, or if they were injured or got sick, they were just thrown out to wither and die. NOW do you 'get' it...?

    Link: http://afe.easia.columbia.edu/special/china_1750_demographic.htm#:~:text=Even without the foreign onslaught,times the level in 1500.

    Honestly, I was just trying to introduce some perspective about the world of the early 19th-century, which I felt that you simply refused to recognize. I failed... "A man hears what he wants to hear and disregards the rest...." -- "The Boxer", by Paul Simon.

    The San Francisco 49ers and the Baltimore Ravens are expected to play in the SB. The Ravens have been among a few sentimental favorites of mine for a long time, although I don't care a bit about the city of Baltimore at all. Just another depressing, liberal East Coast ruin, as far as I'm concerned....

    The best SB halftime show of all time, IMHO, was Lady Gaga's performance in Super Bowl LI in 2017, but I never watch halftime shows anymore because they're boring, trashy, and unimaginative. And it's very possible that I won't even watch this year's game, either.
     
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  13. Kal'Stang

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    Yeah? So? This is 2024. Not 1824. Today they are not victims. Today they have the same opportunities as anyone else. In someways more opportunities thanks to AA policies.

    Guess what, statistics that are not made by partisans and people with agendas shows that out of 50-60+ million police interactions every year only 1% of people reported misconduct by police. And while yes, blacks (4%) and Hispanics (3%) reported a higher percentage of force against them than whites (2%)... and get this...other races (also 2%). You claim that has to do with racism. Simply because of a disparity (with no evidence mind you). Yet if it had to do with race...then why are other races comparable to whites at 2%? Additionally there is no statistical difference between blacks (11%) and whites (12%) for police initiated contact. Out of all contact made whites (26%) were the ones that interacted with police more than blacks (21%). LINK: Contacts Between Police and the Public, 2018 – Statistical Tables (ojp.gov)

    The reason blacks are "terrified" has nothing to do with racism itself. And has everything to do with race baiters making false allegations and twisting statistics to say something when statistics are not showing that something at all.

    I was banned from FB during the Obama years because I refused to give them my real name. Try another talking point. But its pretty sad that you think people are not responsible for their actions.

    Historical tidbit: Did you know that the German people were told that the reason they were sending Jews to concentration camps was because they WANTED to go?[/QUOTE]

    No such suggestion was made. All you can do is project your own biases. He asked if blacks wanted to be a part of the US and everyone in it (which btw includes all sorts of races) or if they wanted to be separate from the US, maybe with their own country. It was a question that involved two parts. You ignored one part and took the other part as (at first) wanting to force them out and when you were called out on that you switched to him "suggesting" (no doubt with an implied threat in your mind considering your Godwin) that they go voluntarily. As always you cut out context in order to spin something to your own dishonest agenda.
     
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    So they don't like it. And they want it to change. They want to be presumed innocent in the same proportion that white folk do. Did I have to explain it to you?

    So you believe that they should be grateful for not being slaves and stop demanding equality.

    And the condition is that if they want to be part of the US, they would have to bow down and TAKE IT! Because the only alternative was to ship them (voluntarily, you say...) to another country. I would give that condition to white supremacists.

    Sounds very much like what was once known as "The Final Solution".

    And all this because they want to sing a song in the Super Bowl... It is going to be quite a task to rid this country of the Trump cancer that we are undergoing.
     
  15. MelshieMaze

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    Pretty sure then ignorance you’re talking about is coming from other people….
     
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    I seriously doubt that you can produce any reliable evidence that any Germans believed that Jews WANTED to be expelled from Germany. Many of them were long-time German families that had been in the various German states (there was no unified German nation until 1871).

    And, it should be noted that German Jews were about as patriotic as any other Germans... many of them died fighting for Kaiser Wilhelm II and the First German Reich during World War I. It was a dirty, stinking, rotten shame that law-abiding German Jews were deprived of their citizenship and expelled from their native country for no damned good reason, but that's exactly what the Nazis did... and I've never heard that any German Jews WANTED that to happen. But that scarcely has any connection with a "Black national anthem" at the Super Bowl in 2024.
     
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    Bro, you didn’t make any point, you just tried to downplay slavery of black people in America by saying “they were expensive.” So ****ing what, how exactly does that make slavery not as bad as what the Chinese went through?

    And then you added in an dumber comment by saying “at least the slaves were provided for.” Again, so ****ing what, slaves that don’t eat tend to be poor workers that die quicker. That’s the absolute bare minimum for any living thing.
     
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    And how many more decades must pass before your faction comprehends that none of them have been slaves since 1865, and, that complete EQUALITY between all the races has been an iron-clad, carved-in-stone LAW since the passing and signing of the Civil Rights Act of 1964...?! Your faction refuses to countenance that, and it can only be because of your political agenda and ambitious maneuvering for concessions and increased power!

    Maybe we could agree on something like this for a totally new 'national anthem'? Link: . No words at all, but very beautiful....
     
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    "I can lead a horse to water, but I can't make it drink...." "I can throw a bum a buck, but I can't teach him economics". So, have it your way and have a nice day. :xd:
     
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    Speaking of drink, what exactly do you drink that compels you to write that black slaves were treated “better” here in any way? Because you need to check that Kool-Aid and make sure it’s not fentanyl-laced.
     
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    They already are.

    They already have equality.

    Again you are projecting. Its all you can do. You have no valid argument. That is obvious by the fact that you cut peoples posts up ignoring what is said in order to pursue an agenda rather than talk with people honestly.
     
  22. Kal'Stang

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    Yep, race baiters. Al Sharpton is the greatest example of our time.
     
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    Yes, they should be grateful they're not slaves, aren't you? Can you think of a better place for a black person to live in besides America? And they have equality; what can a white, red or yellow person do that a black can not?

    If you want real equality, every player in the NFL should all make the same amount of money.
     
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    He doesn't want equality. He wants equity. Based on group identities. What people like him don't understand is that there will ALWAYS be disparities, even in their utopian dystopia that they want. The person down the street that owns a home is richer than me, yet I don't complain, I'm in the situation I'm in because of the choices I've made in life. Leftists will complain and blame everyone that is politically expedient to... but the individual.
     
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    As I’ve said multiple times, it’s not divisive at all just because you all just learned about it, and it’s been explained multiple times in this thread already the history and context for why it exists, but here you are still confused.

    While we’re on the subject, we’re never ever gonna get past racism as a country, and it doesn’t have sht to do with an anthem you all just learned existed….
     

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