Nikki Haley? any chance??

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  1. Lil Mike

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    Indeed he does, and at the moment, he's vigorous enough to function as President, But with people that age, that can go away at any time. In any case it's not a smart strategy to base an entire movement around one guy, rather than that guy's ideals and issues.
     
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    Good for you, there aren't enough truly independent voters.

    I recently voted for the 4th time for the same Republican governor

    I see the same happening across the river from me in NH with Gov Sununu who also just won his 4th term.
    Quite a few democrats that I know who live there voted again for him.
    I am curious if he will decide to run for 2024, if he does he may surprise a lot of people.

    A big problem is that too many people vote on one or two issues and don't give a **** about the candidate.
     
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    Is it issues or is it parties? About 60% of the electorate will vote the R and or the D. Who’s the candidates are is irrelevant, it’s the letter behind the candidate’s name. They’d vote for Atilla the Hun if Atilla had the same letter, R or D behind his name if Atilla was of the same party they were.


    You’re right, candidates don’t matter to them, but candidates do matter to most independents. We have those who vote party and those who vote candidates. Come to think about, parties and issues are close to being the same as each parties has their own set of issues they’re for and against. Abortion, immigration, crime, the economy, more. It seems each of the major parties are on the opposite side on these issues. It does seem you hit it on the head.


    And like you, I’m a ticket splitter. Voting for the best candidate for the job regardless of party.
     
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    Did you spell her name correctly? I got pages of hits.
     
  5. chris155au

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    I agree that there is nothing sexist about it, but we ALL know what the reaction from the media and on here would have been if Tucker Carlson said it about a Democrat woman. Lemon gets a free pass because he's a gay black dude.
     
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    For starters Lemon didn't get a "free pass" from his co-anchors, CNN's higher ups, twitter etc.
    If Haley and others consider his comment that Haley isn't in her "prime" as sexist then they have to admit that what Haley said is also sexist about older male and female congress members.
    Sexism is not just about females.
    Trump's long long list of sexist and derogatory comments about females never bothered her and still doesn't as he continues to spew them.
    I see that Haley still hasn't addressed Ann Coulters recent racist, crude and shameful comments about her and India.
    Difference being that Lemon is a democrat and Haley's a ****ing hypocrite, and a desperate one at that.
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    Nikki Haley
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    America is not past its prime—our politicians are past theirs. We need term limits, and we need them now.
     
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  7. gringo

    gringo Well-Known Member Donor

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    should have been more specific in my post

    I did a search of this board and found nothing onher announcement
     
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    I saw that his female co-anchors gave him a fair bit of push back, which was highly entertaining, as Lemon struggled his way through his absurd ramblings. But are you saying the CNN higher ups got involved?

    Nonsense. You know perfectly well that society sees commentary about 'age' differently when it comes to women. Isn't there that thing about not asking a woman her age?

    "Democrat" and "****ing hypocrite." Sorry, are you presenting these as opposites or something? :roflol:
     
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    Did I say that they were?
     
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    What other Republican other than Trump is anti-TPP?

    FAKE NEWS. Soros did NOT endorse SeSantis.

    What should he be doing in an economic sense?

    Has Trump said that Ukraine should not be supported?

    Can you support this claim?

    What makes Ken an "elitist globalist?" I bet you that I can find a Trump donor who is basically the same as Ken.

    How the hell are these things "RINO?" Or does your list just include general reasons why you don't like him?

    If DeSantis is RINO, what THE HELL is Mitt Romney and Larry Hogan?

    Well in order to be a "good President", you actually have to BE President. And I don't see how DeSantis OR Trump will be able to win the sufficient support of Independents in order to win. Do you?
     
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    ~ Tim Scott will take them all out ...
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    @chris155au Like I said, some truths are very hard to accept... maybe in due time you'll see it for what it is... once "Top Gov" DeSantis is predictably the final candidate to enter the race... once "Top Gov" DeSantis is finally forced to speak about national energy and foreign relations policies... once the other candidates systematically drop out and most of them immediately endorse "Top Gov" DeSantis (Haley sometime after SC primary, Sununu sometime after NH primary, etc etc)... It's all sooooo predictable even from this early point in time because, outside of Trump (who announced right away btw), the MAGA opposing RINO Party side of things is soooooo predictable and completely inauthentic to the point of inducing cringe.
     
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    @chris155au and "winning independents" doesn't matter when our "elections" are still (s)elections...
     
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    "CNN’s chairman, Chris Licht, opened his daily 9 a.m. editorial call by saying the remarks by Mr. Lemon, which were widely viewed as sexist and insensitive, had left him “disappointed.”
    “His remarks were upsetting, unacceptable and unfair to his co-hosts, and ultimately a huge distraction to the great work of this organization,” Mr. Licht told his staff, according to a recording of the call obtained by The New York Times.

    It is unusual for a network chief to criticize a star anchor in such stark terms — but the situation involving Mr. Lemon and CNN’s struggling morning show is approaching a crisis point just months after its debut.

    https://archive.is/KSvAp

    "nonsense" ?
    Haley then saying that term limits are needed to get rid of those who aren't in their "prime" would also be considered sexist using her definition and others.
    Again, a sexist comment isn't just about females no matter what "society" thinks.


    Again.
    Haley has no problem remaining mum when it comes to Republicans/Conservative politicians like Trump/Coulter spewing racist, sexist and offensive comments directed at her or other women, she's offended just when it came to democrat Don Lemon saying she isn't in her "prime" which was not a "sexist" comment to begin with.
    Haley's desperate hypocritical transparency is obvious, she's scared of offending Republican/Conservative voters and ignores verbal abuses.
    She was a fool to jump in the race so early, all attention is on her and she's already fading fast.
     
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    Haley lets these derogatory comments stand against her, India's culture and other Indian immigrants/descendants .
    Looks like that's what happens when one is in their "prime",eh? lol


    "They are all starving and they are worshipping cows: American political commentator goes on racist rant against Indian-origin Nikki Haley"

    Snip:

    "Ann coulter then went on a xenophobic tirade and mocked Hindu sentiments. “What’s with the worshipping of the cows? They’re all starving over there and they’re worshipping cows? Do you know they have a rat temple where they worship rats?” she said.

    The conservative political commentator further added, “Hey babycakes, why don’t you go back to your own country and reconsider that history?” The host, Mark Simone, could be heard laughing hysterically at the racist remarks."


    https://www.opindia.com/2023/02/us-ann-coulter-racist-rant-nikki-haley/
     
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    You have FAILED to support your claims. I gave you the opportunity here: http://www.politicalforum.com/index.php?threads/nikki-haley-any-chance.608300/page-4#post-1074041350
     
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    The fact that she has not come out and condemned Coulter is truly unbelievable, and just utterly ridiculous. I can't see what she stands to gain from it. Scared of losing support? I don't see how. It's not as if Coulter is particularly relevant anymore with the Republican base. I guess they really liked her during the 2016 election campaign when she backed Trump, but surely not so much now.
     
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    As recently shown, Haley having campaigned for Herschel Walker and Don Bolduc equates to her having no concern about one's lack of integrity,character, values.
    All that's needed for Haley's support is that one hasn't passed their "prime".

    Haley's coming out party was in NH with the master of ceremony none other than the loon Don Bolduc.

    The same Don Bolduc who posted that school kids can now identify as cats and use litter boxes that were put in school bathrooms for them. :roflol:

    I would like to see the super conservative Liz Cheney take Nikki Haley to task.




    'Nikki Haley Enters 2024 Race With Speech Implying Trump and Biden Are Too Old to Run'

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    "I think it’s a second-tier consideration,” says John Della Volpe, Director of Polling at the Harvard Kennedy School Institute of Politics and author of FIGHT: How Gen Z is Channeling Their Fear and Passion to Save America. “In the first tier are questions related to character, integrity, values, experience in government.”

    “Perhaps it’s a way she thinks she can differentiate herself,” Della Volpe says of Haley’s focus on age, in what many expect to be a crowded primary field."

    https://time.com/6255878/nikki-haley-2024-announcement/
     
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    Sununu said that 2024 candidates should wait until the summer before announcing it.

    Makes sense because both Trumps and Haley's big announcements have been duds.
    Trump's desperate hate filled rages and Haleys dumber than dumb little quips and non-answers for what separates her from Trump along with overkill about her parents being immigrants from India,a futile attempt to get Indian voters to walk away from the Democrat party.

    I just listened to a Dec 2022 interview with Gov Chris Sununu and I can see if Dems are stupid enough to run Biden in 2024 how many Democrats/Independents would vote for Sununu.
    I know I would.

    It was actually educational and inspiring listening to him compared to Trump and Haley and all the others who are waiting in the wings to possibly announce their run.
    He also has a good sense of humor.

    For starters I discount Pence, Pompeo,Cruz and Christie as DOA.

    I wouldn't discount Sununu if he decides to run.
    Well worth the listen.

    video
    https://www.cbsnews.com/video/chris...024-we-just-have-to-find-another-candidate/#x
     
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    ~ I wondered what happened to Coulter. She just quickly and quietly disappeared from media ... :confuse:'
     
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    I think compared to many candidates she was looking like a good alternative. Then she played some pretty cowardly opportunistic political gamesmanship to placate Trump and ride on his coat-tails and so I lost respect for her.

    She like many Republicans that started off anti Trump in 2016 had no problem playing up to him and enabling him when it suited them. For that she needs to be called out. I am sorry but she and Pence, they had no problem riding on Trump's coat tails helping enabling his tyranny. Now she and Pence will run and trying to distance themselves from Trump's legacy. Well they were willing participants in it and only resurface now sensing its safer for them to speak out.

    Thanks I pass, but she is articulate and stood up to bullshit at the UN. How much of that policy was of her doing I do not know.
     
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    Good luck explaining Trumps ideas and issues.

    His entire legacy was never to present any ideal or any vision. His sole legacy consisted of dyslexic titter posts insulting people and saying what was wrong BUT NEVER sharing an ideal.

    His entire legacy was to say everyone and everything was wrong. He never presented any vision to unite Americans to any ideals.

    Go on list them Lil Mike. Have a nice day.

    Trump is a demented sociopath. Biden with due respect because I think he provided a far better alternative should not be running again at his age not because simply of his age but because he needs to put the country first and he has to come to grips with the fact he has medical issues that probably will prevent him from living out another full term. Its time he put his ego to the side and gracefully step down to someone more likely to fill an entire term, that or be honest with people and acknowledge he can't guarantee with his medical conditions, he will have a reasonable chance of finishing his term.

    As for Trump he still has time to choke on a KFC wing.
     
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    I can't imagine a search of her name yielded "nothing."
     
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    One so hopes.
     
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    This is not an unusual complaint from the left, although complaining is not unusual for the left so there is that, but doubling that is the fact that you're Canadian, and if I can't explain ideas and issues to American leftists about American political issues, I hold out no hope of explaining them to you.

    Basically, Trump was a 1980's era Blue Dog Democrat. He generally holds the issues that were common to Blue Dog Democrats of that era. That means being a hard ass on trade and normal ideas on immigration. He also has the post 9/11 era idea that we mostly went down the wrong path and wasted trillions on military adventures that were not in the US national interest. So in foreign affairs, he is a realpolitik guy.

    So there you go, however I hold out no hope that a guy wishing "Trump he still has time to choke on a KFC wing" will understand any of it.
     
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