No injunction against restaurant defying COVID restrictions

Go ahead and provide us a link, I can't find anything about a recent session cancelled. Thx

oh, but I did find this...

For the first time in nearly a year, officials reported no current outbreaks at Iowa's 436 long-term care facilities Thursday, a new milestone in the pandemic response nearly a year after the disease wound its way into the state.

Nursing home residents have proven particularly vulnerable to the disease. Of the Iowans who've died from COVID-19, 2,224, or 40% of the state's 5,600-plus deaths, were residents of such facilities, despite making up less than 1% of the state's population.

Iowa City-area COVID: 9 new coronavirus cases in Johnson County (press-citizen.com)

 

you are the one that brought it up, and now you are running from it....shocked I am

 

You can find it on the CDC web site.

 

That is true. I have considered the global response to Covid to be hysterical since the day it arrived. You are correct, I have tired of reading the hysteria a year ago. The bottom line is that covid is similar to a bad flu in terms of its affects on humans. It is just more contagious so we have bigger numbers. Yet we respond to it as though were small pox. Hysteria.

 

I'm sure the loved ones of those 530,000+ who passed away in the US alone will have a hard time to find anything hysterical about covid.

 

You don't even understand what I write, do you?

 

This one might have feelings and thoughts because it was engineered for gain of function with your tax dollars.

If it does, it is celebrating the success of Fauci & Baric in engineering it for gain of function. Like Frankenstein, it is happy to be alive thanks to Saint Anthony.

 

Um... debunked

Cringeworthy Study Debunked: There Was No 'Sturgis Superspreader' COVID-19 Event

 

Well if you cared to read you would have seen the post were you ask me a question about it and I replied "I dunno". Christ almighty I even quoted the entire string of posts in POST #49

 

Hey, YOU brought it him up first.....and if you knew anything about Virginia then you'd know its been referred to as "The Old Dominion" since Charles II....just sayin".

 

yet you attacked me for asking you about a topic you brought up...

perhaps the best course of action next time would be to not make comments on subjects you are ignorant about....just a thought

 

No attack, concerned at your reluctance(?) to read a post containing the ENTIRE string of posts you didn't read! Again just read post #49 and that's the whole shebang in a nutshell..

And your welcome, I don't generally walk many unhappy members thru threads like this, but I was feeling generous with you, and look at the thanks I got

I weep!!

 

SARS-CoV-2 is much more deadly that the seasonal flu for most people--witness the half-million dead Americans.

You must have voted for The Idiot...

 

so you are choosing to keep commenting on topic you are ignorant on.

Well, if that makes you happy!

 

Well at least I have the ability to follow a thread without help going for me

 

No one says that. The statistics show it. Unlike Memorial Day weekend, the Sturgis rally, and the holiday gatherings, the protests did not cause major spikes in hospitalization or death rates in or around the cities where the protests took place. Look at any report or graph you like.

The masks make all the difference.

 

Thanks, duly noted.

 

"There are lies, damned lies, and then there are statistics." Ever hear of that phrase? Statistics can be made to show anything. Masks are good, but they are not THAT good. There is no way that a 20 person wedding can be a "super spreader" where as a protest with thousands of people cannot be. Common sense alone should show that.

 

Hyperbolic analogy. 20 person wedding? You know that's bee ess.

With all due respect, you are wrong. Just wearing masks does, in fact, make a big difference.

 

Yeah, it was a bit hyperbolic to say 20. I admit that. The actual number was 300. Versus thousands. And no, masks don't make that big of a difference. Not when you consider thousands of physical contacts vs 300 airborne.

 

If masks make no difference, explain why the countries that locked down and issued mask mandates had far fewer deaths per capita than countries like ours that decided that personal freedoms and the economy were more important than lives.

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/#countries

Look at Australia, South Korea, Malaysua, Japan, even China, where the virus started. Many of those countries are already fully opened up, with healthy economies, because they clamped down at the start. Without masks, they'd have far different numbers in the Deaths column.

You can keep to your view that they make little to no difference if that floats your boat, but I think your boat leaks a little bit.

 

Perhaps you can explain places like Italy? The UK? They both had more deaths per capita than the US, and mask mandates more stringent than what was in the US.

 

Italy's initial spread was sudden and brutal. By the time they instituted a lockdown, it was already out of control. Same for the UK. They learned from their mistakes, though. Both countries are containing the virus much better since the first spike a year ago, and quickly go back into lockdown now, as the UK did when the new strain named for them started gaining momentum.

Many Republican-led states continue to place economics before lives. Wait a couple of weeks ... the Spring Break spike is coming.

 

I have had dozens of take out meals from restaurants in the last year and so far as I know I haven't gotten covid from a single one.

 

I entirely agree. BOTH sides of the political spectrum have been responsible for events that worsened the community transmission of the SARS-CoV-2 in the United States, quite obviously, regardless of attempts by one side or the other to show stats proving it one way or the other (because yes, stats may LOOK convincing but often when they are being used to fulfill an agenda, they are MADE to look this way, largely by ignoring other intervening factors).

So, can unmasked indoors large political rallies increase the odds of transmission? They sure can.
Can partially masked BLM protests even if they were held outdoors, increase the odds of transmission? They sure can.

ANYTIME two people are less than 6 ft apart and are unmasked, or partially masked, or masked but with lousy masks, or masked but incorrectly wearing their masks with a poor fit or misplaced on the face so that they don't cover fully the mouth and nose, indoors or outdoors, there will be an increased risk of transmission (worse indoors but not zero outdoors).

Some people being masked and the event happening outdoors - the main argument of those that defend BLM protests as not a risk factor - will make it not as bad as totally unmasked and indoors, but none of these activities will have a risk zero.

Not even with excellent masks with a good fit and good social distancing, the risk is zero. So whatever variates from that, goes from small to medium to severe risk, but never zero.

EVERY TIME I posted about this, I blamed irresponsible gatherings organized by BOTH the Right and the Left. It is a double standard and it is hypocritical to say "your event was a superspreader but mine wasn't." Both are.

Americans of all walks of life and all ideologies have handled poorly the pandemic of Covid-19. Politicians from BOTH parties have handled it poorly. Public officials have handled it poorly regardless of who nominated them.

MAGA crowds made it worse. Young college kids who may be of leftist persuasion or mixed made it worse in Spring Break events. Motorcycle rallies made it worse (presumably they had people there who were leftist too, not just rightist). BLM protests made it worse. Holiday travel made it worse. President Trump mocking masks, minimizing the risk, and advocating for far-fetched and non-efficacious cures and listening to Herd Immunity quacks like that idiot Scott Atlas made it worse. Governor Cuomo sending Covid+ patients to nursing homes (and covering it up) made it worse. Governor Kristi Noem allowing large gatherings in her state made it worse. Governor Gavin Newsom being a poor example made it worse. Nancy Pelosi and Bill De Blasio encouraging people to take the subway and mingle in Chinatown made it worse. Fauci being inconsistent about masks made it worse.

The bottom line is that having a D or an R on a voter's registration card or a politician's affiliation is no guarantee that the person did not make the pandemic worse.

And it doesn't mean a person can't do well either.

The Democrat governor of Hawaii did a good job. The Republican governors of Alaska and Maryland did a good job, and so on and so forth. Our response was heterogeneous and full of blunders, with more than enough blame to go around and hit both parties, and both sets of voters (for simplicity, I'm not considering a third block, independents; they typically either lean left or lean right anyway).