Noah’s Ark just got more unbelievable.

They were written by a different group of people at a much different time. Most fundies forget that the Bible (Old Testament) was written by people that were barely out of the nomadic stage. For the audience of the time, it was compelling. Also, we look at things through a 21st century filter. We think of "eye for an eye" as being barbaric. Well, before "eye for an eye" the rule was you do something bad to me, we not only do the same back, but do it back a hundred times. "Eye for an eye" was much less harsh.

Personally, I don't have much use (as a Christian) for the OT. It's just irrelevant, except to explain the background of NT stories.

 

They just had a lot of buckets and shovels

 

Which is evolution, but they call it by a different name to avoid the inconvenient truth.

 

If the writings were inspired by a higher power, a higher power that can supposedly realize all events past, present, and future, then the writings would be universal. They would not reflect the morals of the time, but a universal moral code.

 

That probably wouldn't have worked. The semi-barbarians would have rejected that stuff outright.

 

I agree. I'm not a creationist by far, but I have argued with a lot of them in the past.

 

But those who accept microevolution and not macroevolution have one big problem and that is providing a reason why microevolution does not accumulate toward macroevolution. It is apprent that if you allow microevolution to go unchecked, it should lead to macroevolution such that a genetic split would eventually occur. The problem for those who deny macroevolution is: What stops this from happening?

 

They would say that a genetic split doesn't occur. Kinds don't change.

 

Yes. I've heard them say it. But what specifically maintains kinds?

 

The problems are yours, not God's. And, not mine as I believe God.

As far as the 'need' for the Ark, of course God didn't need the ark. He could have done it anyway He wanted. But this is the way He chose.

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Well, He did strike the sinners from existance with the flood.

Makes sense to me. Thats the way He chose to do it.

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No he couldn't. The method he chose had to be PERFECT or else he's not God. He couldn't do it any old way. So I must conclude that killing sheep and parrots and frogs because of the evil that Men do was somehow perfect.

Anfd this is of course patently idiotic.

 

Conclude anything you like. The method He chose was perfect. It doesn't mean He couldn't do it another way. Had He done it another way, it would have been perfect too.

Whats idiotic is your limitation of God. But, understandable.

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Because that would be a lie.

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Why not just stop their hearts instead of killing innocents?

 

Their were no innocents. And he did stop their hearts with the flood.

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Were the animals he destroyed also corrupt?

The story is an allegory based on the story of the Eurphrtes river flood in 2900 BC..

The Ark was barges that hauled beer, grain and livestock down river.

 

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Even the infants and children?

Sounds rather sick and demented.

 

No, the story of the flood is true.

All of creation was corrupt.

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Of course it does. And it is, but true believers just can't see it for what it is.

Just as bad are those that think disease is a result of Original Sin. I tell them, I dare you to go to the nearest children's oncology ward and tell them to their faces that they are dying of cancer because of God's judgment on Adam and Eve. I can only hope that if you try to do that, you will see how attrociously dispicable your doctrine is.

 

What did I say? Is your comprehension being tested? They were no innocents.

I think much of your remarks are sick and demented.

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Your belief is utterly utterly evil. Sorry dude.

 

A childrens oncology ward is not going to do anything towards influencing my belief about God and His Word in the Bible. That would only influence some one like yourself who is not a believer, and is too good to belief in God.

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I Know, I know, your the good man. I am the evil man for believing in God and Christ.

Its an old story.

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