Noah's flood its reality

You can derive the meaning from how they are used in context.

 

Yes, the amount of water on earth is known within the range necessary for this problem - definitely. The heat equations, for example, result in impossible conditions at only a small fraction of the rain required by a world wide flood.

Yes, I'm saying one who thinks the Noah story is literal must believe it is a continuing miracle from start to finish, performed by a God who is willing to cover up the evidence to fool us.

Yes, Satan is a better trickster for one clear reason - Christianity, Judaism and Islam all concur that God is not a trickster at all.

 

Yes, humans did not evolved from gorillas, chimps, baboons, or other ape species because humans are not apes and evolved from it's own kind. Today's modern science have already separated human evolutionary history with those of other apes.

Yes,HUMANS are not of the same with the OTHER APES. The other apes such as gorillas, chimps, etc. all evolved from their own while humans evolved from human kind. Atheist scientist have continue to use Ape to describe and refer to both humans and none humans such as apes.

I am glad that you are happy to accept that humans did not evolved from chimps, gorillas, etc. and sad at the same time that you continue to contradict yourself you still think and believe that HUMANS ARE APES and you will do anything to make it that way including creating an imaginary translation or distorting what is clearly stated that humans are not apes. I guess this is understandable your desperation is truly very concerning.

Thousand of years ago God has already reveal to us that we all evolved from one single source and that is from God. God created everything according to their own kind. Thousand years later atheist science have created this parallel story after reading the Bible they created the story that all creatures evolved from one common primate that primate is their answer that is what is god to them but they called it COMMON MAMMALIAN PRIMATE???

 

5000 years is a long time and enough time to repopulate the world.

And science is discovering the truth about the Bible that all DNA comes from one source, God.

 

Ahhh... some more magic numbers?

But I have presented the empirical evidence to you regarding his existence. Why won't you accept empirical evidence? God is not covering anything up. If anything, you are building spiritual walls around you in an attempt to hide from Him.

But where is your empirical evidence? Did Satan talk to you and tell you that he is a better trickster than God. Have you seen Satan do any of those tricks that you speak about? If not, then how do you know that Satan is a better trickster than God. Your reason stipulated in your response above, is not true... why??? because ...

"trick•ster (ˈtrɪk stər)

n.
1. a deceiver; cheat.
2. a person who plays tricks.
3. a mischievous, knavish figure of myth and folklore, often simultaneously a being with supernatural powers and a culture hero. "

You have to be talking about definition #3: Reason: definition #2 isolates the trickster to a "person";
definition simply means a cheat or a deceiver. Well, for God to be either of those, then you would be having to admit that God exists, and I strongly suspect you don't want to do that.
Definition #3 is the only one that fits squarely into what I believe to be the general concept of a god...

 

so, we see you understand that you attempt to be a trickster, tho thy means be most pellucid!

 

You keep saying this despite being shown repeatedly that it is not true. I'm sorry, but repeating a falsehood, knowing that it is false, makes you a liar.

 

In some cultures it may be believed that telling the same lie three times will cost you your soul.

Based on their behaviour, the constant string of lies coming from the creos. one might well think they have gone over to the dark side.

 

Did you realize that it is socially unacceptable to attempt, using any method, to force someone to believe something that they don't desire to believe. In this case you are using a subcategory of defamation of character (calling someone a liar) as a tool of public humiliation for a possible purpose of forcing someone to alter his belief.

http://encyclopedia2.thefreedictionary.com/defamation+of+character . That link provides a nice (imo) little writing on t he subject.

You have not shown "PROOF" that humans are Apes. He believes that humans are not Apes. Just because a group of people have (because of their belief) declared that 'humans are Apes' does not impose upon all others the obligation of accepting the declaration as 'true'. That group who made the declaration ("humans are apes") have forced upon all of society their belief with the expectation that the remainder of society accept what they have stated as 'true'. This article below shows that the claim of evolutionists that "humans are apes" has "NOT" been fully determined and is still on the research drawing board. http://blog.drwile.com/?p=9851

 

Then you also know that I am not attempting to hide anything. No rationalizations (making of excuses) on my part. What this one person understands is that you are attempting to be a 'trickster' yourself with your little twisted display of reasoning. Are you now declaring that you are a mind reader and that you KNOW what I do and don't understand? Please explain what it is that you view my attempts to actually be. Then show irrefutable "PROOF" that you use to substantiate your belief.

 

Ignorance does not automatically equate to deception. One may accept a thing as personal truth regardless of evidences showing otherwise and simply be seen as a fool by others, rather than a liar.

I believe in UFO's based on experience and probability...but this is easily seen as a foolish belief. If I then state "there are aliens amongst us" I am stating an untruth due to the lack of visible evidence...but it might be a truth to myself.

In the case of the individual in question here...I do not think he is lying. It seems the reality may be far worse.

 

The difference between a 'truth' and an 'untruth', in the absence of physical evidence, is whether or not you truly believe that which you say you believe.

 

Insisting that humans are apes or evolved from apes or an ape is lying. And because of these kind of lying being spread especially at the public school system I must continue to share the truth that humans are not apes and humans did not evolved from such and that has already been clearly shared by modern science only the old racist science schools that want to continue to believe that humans are and evolved from apes.

 

Rain is just one part of the equations, earthquakes = tidal waves = volcanic eruption = flooding = ice melting = increase in sea level = worldwide destruction at a time when human population is probably only about 100,000 with probably 90% settle near river banks, earthquake zones and ocean areas = total wiping away of villages.

There is nothing to cover up that is why the Bible have wrote down the presence of man's evilness and the destructive power of nature.

Satan is the only trickster and yes he is cleaver, sneaky, cunning, a good pitch sales talker he knows how to twist all truths that is why many truth that God had reveal to us have been twisted by Satan and in spite of the the fact that modern science have prove that global flooding is very destructive and can destroy wipe out entire cities we still see people who insist that no such flooding is possible in total contradiction to modern current events. Don't know about Islam or Judaism but as far as Christianity is concern it conform with the facts of reality that Jesus Christ is the Son of God. God the Father the Son and Holy Spirit.

 

What does that have to do with a "Global flood"?

 

Probably is.

 

Simple, ancient civilizations their towns, villages and farms are located in coastal areas those civilization do not have the luxury of modern technology to evacuate or send aid from other civilization when human population 5000 years ago was probably only about 100,000 there was no where to get help no where to run and no where to hide. A super typhoon, a super hurricane, a super earthquake and a super volcanic eruption can cause the end of the world for a world wide population of only 100,000 people that are settle in coastal and destructive path of such super weather disturbance = GLOBAL FLOOD.

 

There were no global floods.. never have been anywhere.

It may have seemed like a "global flood" since they never traveled more than 30 miles from home in a lifetime..

A sever river flood is easily explained by spring snowmelt from the mountains coupled with unseasonable spring rains.

 

The laws of thermodynamics, the heat equations for evaporation and condensation of water, the amount of water needed to raise the oceans by some amount, etc. - these are not magic numbers.

I've seen nothing from you that serves as evidence of Noah's flood or of God. I've been talking about science and reading your posts in that sense, and there is no way for science to say anything about the existence of God.

Before you go calling your God a trickster god, you should read about tricksters in religion and mythology. The god of the Bible is not a trickster. Ask your pastor.

http://www.patheos.com/blogs/nakedpastor/2013/09/is-your-god-a-trickster/

I haven't said anything about my own beliefs. I will say I know devout Christians who take the Noah story as allegory. This should not be a religion-shaking issue.

 

Have you given consideration that this is the Religion section of the forum... Yes you have... in fact you indicated that the science issues should be conducted in the Science section (in other words you did not object to that suggestion whether it was you that made it or not). You see, the problem is that you are attempting to dictate to "religionists" the precepts of science, when religion is based on 'faith'. You are in essence attempting to compare oil and water and make them both subject to a set of rules that does not necessarily apply to both. You view the subject from a science point of view, while others (myself included) view them from a 'religious' point of view. Remember: Science does not prove anything. In fact, science has not shown any "PROOF" of science having proven anything about the Bible or religion to be false.

Why would I want to ask a pastor who is obligated under the 501c3 laws to not say or do anything that is in conflict with the state laws (which are secular)?

Do you believe the things that you have said about science to be 'true'?

 

Oh, OK, next time I wont try to get my son to believe that throwing toys at people is wrong. And that guy at work who believes that unions can force people to stop working, I won't try to make him realise the truth.

 

True, modern theory is that it's like a tree where humans are one of a giant number of twig ends, and apes are twigs at the end of a nearby branchlet. If fossils of everything could be found, we would expect to be able to trace our branch and the ape branch back to a common ancestor. To find a common ancestor with dogs, we would have to trace our branch and the dog branch farther back towards the trunk of the tree (the beginning of life) as dogs and humans aren't as closely related.

So, humans and apes have a more recent common (that is, shared) ancestor than do humans and dogs.

 

It's in the very definition of the word. Ape: "a large primate that lacks a tail." Primate: "a mammal of an order that includes the lemurs, bushbabies, tarsiers, marmosets, monkeys, apes, and humans."

Deal with it.

 

By all means, do what you feel you must do, that is your right and privilege, and a right and a privilege that you freely exercise on this forum (doing and saying what you feel you must do or say). Regardless of whether or not those things can be proven to be 'true'.... after all, that does seem to be the natural course of action on this forum.

 

There was a global flood like there was WWI even though the war was concentrated in Europe, WWII even though there was no war in North-South Pole, in Canada etc, World Series even though the teams that compete are all US teams, Super Bowl that involves US teams only.

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At the end of that tree the main root is God not an ape or great ape but God.