Noah's flood its reality

No, there is not. If you are looking at in a scholarly fashion then there is even less reason to believe the flood actually happened since that story was written long after the supposed life of Noah.

My point is that a believer can sincerely view it as either parable or the unerring word of God. There is no room for this idea that maybe the bible was wrong and it was really a local flood. That is just a convenient rationalization that attempts to cherry pick the story. If the bible is wrong about it being world wide there is no reason to accept any of it.

 

What do men have to do with lack of rain? What do men have to do with tsunamis? What do men have to do with earthquakes? What did those in the latest typhoon do? None of these actions are because if mans "evil"..it is a belief in a malevolent creation who has the power to stop it and just watches. Wonder what you would think of me if I starved a kid in my basement because I didn't like his parents and thought they were evil.

 

Evidence of a great flood:

http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/ev...t-flood-noahs-time-happened/story?id=17884533

 

I assume you're joking

 

I am, but I can assure you there are plenty who actually believe that. And I'm sure there are a few on this forum.

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Nothing suggesting global in nature, cover all but the highest mountain peaks.
No one denies there was some sort of localize flooding.

 

The invisible friend of the Christians is the Collective Unconscious mind, which shepherds over mankind as a silent Third Ey,e and has made itself know to exist over the ages.

Today, scientists, using MRI techniques of studying the mind have uncovered hard evidence of this invisible companion to the world our Conscious minds have created:

Subliminal: How Your Unconscious Mind Rules Your Behavior

Leonard Mlodinow, the best-selling author of The Drunkard’s Walk and coauthor of The Grand Design (with Stephen Hawking), gives us a startling and eye-opening examination of how the unconscious mind shapes our experience of the world and how, for instance, we often misperceive our relationships with family, friends, and business associates, misunderstand the reasons for our investment decisions, and misremember important events.

 

View the Bible as the whispers into the writers mind from his own Unconscious mind that has been regenerated, born again and again, in every baby brought back from the world of Gene Pool into the generation of the Living during the age within he lives.

NOTE:

The Platonic theory that study is only recollection, because the soul knew everything before entering the world, is expressed in a hyperbolic fashion in the Talmud, where it is said that a light burns on the head of the embryo by means of which it sees from one end of the world to the other, but that at the moment of its appearance on earth an angel strikes it on the mouth, and everything is forgotten (Niddah. 30b). The Rabbis question whether the soul descends to earth at the moment of conception or after the embryo has been formed (Sanh. 90a).

 

so, even if they're muslims, or satanists, or heathens, they'll get a heaven pass?

 

The black sea is hardly the whole world, and the idea that it suddenly / rapidly filled
has very little support. If anything, the black sea thing would be more evidence that the
"noan flood" is wild myth, simply did not happen.

 

As long as they are not practising and following evil, Buddhist, Hindus, Taoist, Shintos, etc. too will be welcome into the Kingdom of God as long as they all live a very none evil life and is against evil and Satan.

Blessed are the poor in spirit: for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.
Blessed are they who mourn: for they shall be comforted.
Blessed are the merciful: for they shall obtain mercy.
Blessed are the clean of heart: for they shall see God.
Blessed are they that suffer persecution for justice' sake, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.

 

Have faith in God and not resort to cannibalism. Blessed are the meek: for they shall possess the land

Evacuate away from the ocean

Have their emergency kits ready.

Blame their government for being so busy in being corrupt, evil ignoring their nation and the people.

None of it are God's work it is men's own evilness, greed, lust and vanity. If you starved a kid because you did not like his parents then you are a psychopath and need to be treated with the grace of God to become a normal loving person if you are pure evil then you will have to be locked away for the rest of your life so that you can harm no one else.

 

That is the most trite, banal and contemptuous reply I have seen.

You live in a land of plenty, little or minimal natural catastrophies. Millions have no options but to live where they are. You cannot depopulate all the low lying land in the world. You cannot depopulate all the earthquake areas of the world. You cannot depopulate all the Areas subject to hurricanes and other natural disasters.
To do so you would have to deforest much of the earth, irrigate the deserts etc. In fact, you would affect the balance of nature to a greater extent than is being done at the moment. And then you would blame men for that fact, as usual.

 

Religion can cause people to be evil and not care about their fellow human.

 

Jesus believes THOSE people are SCUM for not picking the one (apparently) "correct" invisible super-hero out of tens of thousands, regardless of how moral or chartitable they may have been (sorry Gandhi.) Jesus is immoral, clearly. Are those who follow an immoral man immoral themselves? I don't know, but it's worth talking about.

 

You mean that all the warlords, terrorist and corporate terrorist are all not contemptuous?

Kansas is a hurricane-tornado zone, California is an earthquake zone, Hawaii is a volcanic zone, Denmark is water flooding zone, Middle East is a desert dry land zone etc. etc. humans are responsible in making their living environment safe mother nature is part of the cycle. God has left everything to humans to take the responsibility while Satan have made sure that man will blame God for everything bad that happens.

Humans have deforested many of their environment not God.

 

Jesus believe those people even how bad and evil they are are worth saving but Satan has made it easy for those people to chose evil over good. And the greatest immoral person are people like Stalin and Hitler and the Godless Lucifer.

 

Kansas has never had a Hurricane........

Only idiots blame God for the weather.

 

GANDHI is going to burn, dude! Don't tell me he's immoral.
Jesus said that the only way to the father is through him, therefore Jesus is an elitist snob.

Just say person "A" is more moral and more charitable than you are, is it FAIR, WanRen, that you enjoy paradise while they burn, burn, burn? Is it? Clearly Jesus has the biggest ego of all time. He makes Donald Trump look meek!

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Great, so "god" doesn't really control stuff then.....so stop praying to him.

 

If Mother Teresa, say, converted to Buddhism a month before her death, she's not going through Jesus then, so Jesus, according to the Bible, would see that she BURNS.....clearly Hitler et al have some serious competition from the evil zombie from Nazareth.

 

That is true only idiots blame God for the weather.

 

Mother Teresa and Gandhi are with Jesus Christ now they have live a very enlighten life. And Jesus Christ is the humblest and meekest person that even criminals are forgiven for their crimes "today you will be with me in paradise".

Luke 23: 39 One of the criminals who were hanged there was hurling abuse at Him, saying, "Are You not the Christ? Save Yourself and us!"
40 But the other answered, and rebuking him said, "Do you not even fear God, since you are under the same sentence of condemnation?
41 "And we indeed are suffering justly, for we are receiving what we deserve for our deeds; but this man has done nothing wrong."
42 And he was saying, "Jesus, remember me when You come in Your kingdom!"
43 And He said to him, "Truly I say to you, today you shall be with Me in Paradise."

[video=youtube;RGB2E0NzO2A]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RGB2E0NzO2A[/video]

 

Mother Teresa did not convert, apparently, that was just an example, but if she did convert (she had serious questions about believing in a magic invisible man who let all that suffering occur that she saw around her every day) then Jesus would see that she FRIED. "The only way to the father is through me". So Hindu (a Hindu) is going to BURN...or was Jesus wrong, which is it WanRen? Please tell us.

Also, let me ask you this: if, hypothetically if, Hindu Gandhi is burning in hell for not being a Christian, do you condemn Jesus for that? I do, because I'm a moral person.

 

Great, so then I can be forgiven for not believing in someone who refuses to even give jury-level of proof of his divinity, even though he is allegedly more capable of that (or anything, actually) than any living creature in world history? Can I WanRen? Will I get in to "heaven" even though I don't believe in magic?

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His god is so evil that his god (allegedly) CREATED all those terrible places on this earth. That god is a prick.

 

Much of the world is subject to natural disasters. Apparently you believe man can control nature. Who knows when a disaster will strike. Perhaps the Almighty will let us know so we can make preparations like Noah. NO. I'm not being sacrilegious. Man cannot control nature. The best he can do is predict.

I'm not talking about warlords or terrorists. They don't claim Christianity. You have shown contempt for those who are suffering by your throwaway remarks that they are responsible for their situation.

As far as I am aware you live in Canada. As far as I am aware natural disasters in Canada are fairly rare and seldom devastating.

This year 3 people died due to flooding in Alberta and 100000 were temporarily displaced.
Two years before 1 person was killed in a tornado in Ontario
2 minor hurricanes 2010 - no fatalities
Hurricane in 2003 - 8 fatalities
2000 Hurricane - killed 12
1990s Ice Storm - 100 fatalities?

The Philippines 2013CE. 2000+ known fatalities up to now - expected to rise to 10000+. The people of the Philippines are guilty only of being alive.

By the way it is Holland that is mainly below sea level - Not Norway.

Many countries depend on its low lying land which is often fertile and produces crops that feed its population. Places like Bangladesh.

Just thank your God that you live in a country that is rich enough, and has the facilities to cope with the effects of nature. And don't condemn those that are not so lucky.

 

It does not matter whether she convert to Buddhism or not she lived a very Saintly life a very unselfish life a life of Jesus Christ and for that she is in the Kingdom of God with Jesus Christ. It is Satan that would fried Mother Teresa for living a saintly life a life for the people, Satan hated her for following Jesus Christ.

It is you who is clearly yelling that Hindus will BURN those are the words of Satan. And Jesus is not wrong for forgiving and accepting every good people into Heaven even you will be accepted as long as you do not practice evil.

Luke 23: 39 One of the criminals who were hanged there was hurling abuse at Him, saying, "Are You not the Christ? Save Yourself and us!"
40 But the other answered, and rebuking him said, "Do you not even fear God, since you are under the same sentence of condemnation?
41 "And we indeed are suffering justly, for we are receiving what we deserve for our deeds; but this man has done nothing wrong."
42 And he was saying, "Jesus, remember me when You come in Your kingdom!"
43 And He said to him, "Truly I say to you, today you shall be with Me in Paradise."

As I said Gandhi is not burning in Hell only Lucifer and Gandhi is with Jesus Christ in Heaven and for that I will never condemn Jesus Christ a perfect good man and the True merciful God
[video=youtube;RGB2E0NzO2A]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RGB2E0NzO2A[/video]

Yes you will be forgiven for Jesus Christ is all merciful and forgiving;
Luke 23: 39 One of the criminals who were hanged there was hurling abuse at Him, saying, "Are You not the Christ? Save Yourself and us!"
40 But the other answered, and rebuking him said, "Do you not even fear God, since you are under the same sentence of condemnation?
41 "And we indeed are suffering justly, for we are receiving what we deserve for our deeds; but this man has done nothing wrong."
42 And he was saying, "Jesus, remember me when You come in Your kingdom!"
43 And He said to him, "Truly I say to you, today you shall be with Me in Paradise."

You are actually referring to Lucifer not Jesus Christ.