Obamacare fail! Affordable Care Act not so affordable.

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  1. Rapunzel

    Rapunzel New Member Past Donor

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    We've made 100K a year, we paid our taxes, our health insurance, property tax, income tax, country tax, state tax, gas tax, and on and on and on. We were not rich...comfortable but far from rich. Just like Obama who is one of the 1% this is nothing but jealousy. You want income equality. You want everyone to be as poor as you or as rich as you. You hate those who prosper. Shame on you!!!
     
  2. BleedingHeadKen

    BleedingHeadKen Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    So they can't have high quality, accessible, and affordable? Of the full range promised, what should they actually expect? I am guessing none if the above.
     
  3. JohnnyMo

    JohnnyMo Moderator Staff Member Donor

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    If you're making 100K and not making ends meet you're not doing it right. the person who said this was 100% right.
     
  4. Rapunzel

    Rapunzel New Member Past Donor

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    Honestly, can you read and comprehend???
     
  5. hseiken

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    No, shame on YOU for 1.) Saying I think 100k is rich, 2.) for saying Obama is part of the 1% (he's far from that) and 3.) For saying I think everyone should be the same as far as income because that's not true either.

    How did you make such a short post getting my entire position completely bass ackwards?
     
  6. hseiken

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    Funnily enough, you became extremely defensive right there, feeling threatened or something?

    Here's the (*)(*)(*)(*)ing deal. Someone who makes 15k a year is going to have to make a serious decision about whether to pay a bill or buy groceries. Someone who makes 100k a year, their biggest decision is whether to buy a used yacht or take a vacation as their fun-time-spending this year.

    Hardly equatable. Why you so mad?
     
  7. raytri

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    Yes, the GOP proposed that, but since eliminating preexisting conditions without an individual mandate will simply bankrupt the insurers, it was never taken seriously.
     
  8. Rapunzel

    Rapunzel New Member Past Donor

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    Because that is they way you presented it. Obama is not one of the 1%??? LMFAO!!! You are the one who said you basically have no sympathy for those who make 100K. That sounds like you think they are so well off...(*)(*)(*)(*) them.

    Not true, then how much do you think people should be limited in making?
     
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    I DON'T have sympathy for someone who makes 100k a year. They don't have to make hard decisions if they'd live within their means. Anyone who can't 'survive' on 100k a year is an idiot. I could take that 100k you make in one year and live for 2 or 3 years without a penny more.
     
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    Rapunzel New Member Past Donor

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    And who said that those who make 100k a year can't live on it? Honestly, can you read and comprehend too???

    Obama is an elite 1%!!!
     
  11. Yosh Shmenge

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    poor baby, I have and you have just become a very sad poster.

    Look them up and move on.
     
  13. bomac

    bomac New Member Past Donor

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    Man, I do love these phonies trying to explain how hard it is to live on $100,000+. It is obvious that none of them have come close to it.

    - - - Updated - - -

    Yes, I do.
     
  14. bomac

    bomac New Member Past Donor

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    No, Raytri beat me to it. I prove the first rendition as phony.

    BTW, Barack is spelled with one "R".
     
  15. bomac

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    Yes, we know that. That is why we say that their plan was for people not to get sick.
     
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    bomac New Member Past Donor

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    My god, you are lying. I shouldn't keep using "my, god". The lying is a lot more normal during this insanity round.
     
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    That's probably why we didn't fire Bush sooner.
     
  19. mertex

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    I say that the content of this OP is nothing but hogwash. Why conservatives keep propagating this lie is beyond me, because many of them will be benefitting from Obamacare.


    There are many reasons why signing up for Obamacare is a smart choice, but the biggest one is the last thing its Republican critics want to broadcast: the out-of-pocket monthly cost.

    On Wednesday, the White House published the most detailed analysis yet of the cost of Obamacare coverage. The policies will cost anywhere from one-quarter to one-third less than what's now available on the private insurance market. But that's not what upwards of 25 million households will end up paying each month. It's far less. Depending on their income, the cost could drop by another one-third to two-thirds because Obamacare has tax credits--federal subsidies--for household earning up to 400 percent of the federal poverty line that are directly paid to insurers each month.

    http://tucson.craigslist.org/pol/4093748721.html
     
  20. bomac

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    Do you know why the individual mandate was necessary? Raytri told you. You should have read what he said instead of putting out the bubble's talking points.
     
  21. EMTdaniel86

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    But notice how you didn't address what I said?
     
  22. bomac

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    Duh, partially. The insurance companies need bigger pools so that they can handle pre-existing. All the costs are not tranferred to the young but you are right about the healthy. Insurance companies rely on the premiums for the healthy to pay for the sick. People buy health insurance so that, if they get sick, they will be covered.

    Even the penalties if people do not get health insurance is to pay their portion to cover sick people. They do not get that benefit if they get sick. We who are healthy pay for more than our own expected costs. That is our share of covering the sick but we do get the benefit if we get sick.
     
  23. bomac

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    Sorry, that you don't anymore.
     
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    Really, they will get high quality, accessible and affordable. This is a charade by the right wing.
     
  25. bomac

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    Sorry, I believe saying that you are lying does address what you said.
     

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