On trans-sexuals and their "right" to use the opposite sex' bathroom

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  1. cupAsoup

    cupAsoup Well-Known Member

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    So, no proof then? Just a definition of what psychological damage can mean? I figured as much.
     
  2. contrails

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    Would you feel more comfortable sharing the bathroom with someone like Michael Hughes, James Sheffield, or Buck Angel just because they don't have a penis? Why are you worried about other people's genitals anyway?
     
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    what harm has it caused the transsexual with a penis to use the same bathroom as other people with penises?
     
  4. contrails

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    How many times has someone been attacked by a transgender person in a public bathroom?
     
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    and who cares anyway. by that I mean, crazy people will always butt heads with reality, it's part of being 'the odd one out'. reality doesn't care.

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    not many, because up until now they had a hard time getting into the wrong bathroom.

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    It's what happens when we turn in our traditional 'weapons' against social discord. Primarily, shame.

    Shame has almost been demonised out of existence, and that's a terrible ... shame :)
     
  6. AmericanNationalist

    AmericanNationalist Well-Known Member

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    How many times is too many? We often hear 'if it can save one life'. Well, if it can prevent one rape we should respect gender boundaries? Strange thought? Why is it being made public policy now? For no other reason than political points.
     
  7. dairyair

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    Are you uncomfortable with lesbians in the same restroom? Why or why not.
    They would seem to be more of a threat, if there is any threat. For they may be attracted to you. A trans is probably not attracted to females.
     
  8. precision

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    Look, I'm am trying to understand exactly where she is coming from. I want to hear it from her. She said what she had to say.
     
  9. dairyair

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    So a trans, dressed up in a dress and high heels and makeup walks into a men's restroom, and you think that is more normal?
     
  10. dairyair

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    And so does yours. And have been for decades or longer.
     
  11. AmericanNationalist

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    I think it's not ideal, but this is a no-win situation. No one wants their daughters or girlfriends/wives, etc exposed to essentially someone else with male private parts in what's supposed to be a female's bathroom. Some have offered the suggestion of a stall with dividers. I guess that could work. If someone abuses the system, they're going to abuse the system. But if it were up to me, I'd either have a third bathroom, the stalls or just have them use the men's room.

    Whatever, but putting them in a woman's room. The potential of abuse is too great.
     
  12. dairyair

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    I seen those in the orient 20 yrs ago.
    A large oval trough that the women would squat over. No stalls or privacy, but they kind of have their backs to each other.
     
  13. dairyair

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    That door has been open since public restrooms have been separated. It's not new.
    Do you have a problem if a gay guy is standing at the trough next to you?
     
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    Bathrooms were designed to fit the requirements of that "call of nature" undertaking,
    transgender is an exemption but if not then the feeling of being a woman or a man should be omitted,
    the use of toilets, urinals, etc. should be based upon the actual genital.
    I could say OP is favorable.
     
  15. contrails

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    That's correct, because the right bathroom is the one that corresponds with their expressed gender, not their genitals. Before this became an issue a couple of years ago, most transgender people were using the restroom of their choice.

    In that case, we should be protecting transgender people, because out of all of the attacks involving transgender people in bathrooms, it was the transgender person that was the victim, not the perpetrator.
     
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    Are you proposing that people check the genitalia of everyone else using a public restroom with them? Last time I used a public restroom, I didn't bother checking to see if the person in the next stall had a penis or not.
     
  17. dairyair

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    Womens bathrooms have stalls. No one is going to be exposed to nothing.
    And if some pervert does this, note probably not a trans, they will get reported and probably detained and jailed.
     
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    here's an idea ... if the man in question is subjected to discomforting stares and pointing whenever he wears a dress and heels, he might want to think about NOT WEARING A DRESS AND HEELS.

    If I wear a chicken suit to the supermarket, I expect that people are going to laugh and point. ergo I don't wear a chicken suit to the supermarket. and there's no point trying on the 'oh but tranny man needs to wear a dress and heels, but you don't need to wear a chicken suit'. you have no idea how much any random nutjob wants to be a chicken (or foxkin, or whatevs).

    Besides (and here's the kicker), progressives claim to be all about not assuming the needs/wants of others, and accepting their chosen identity without question or measurement.
     
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    Not previously, because it was only the committed genuine trans who made it into womens' bathrooms. What you keep failing to acknowledge is that predators will exploit the new standard (which is no standard at all, merely 'if I claim I'm a woman, I'm a woman) for just that purpose - predation.
     
  20. dairyair

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    Here's an idea. The person with a penis is a woman. You know, there are very masculine males to very feminine males. There is a whole set of people between 100% male and 100% female. But they are people, just like you and me. Except for the all male or female portion.
     
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    it wont just be transgender going into women bathrooms now you have just gave permission to every pervert to claim they are transgender to now legally enter women's facility to satisfy their perversions they don't need to even attempt to resemble the opposite sex just claim they are transgender
     
  22. dairyair

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    Seriously? You don't think a male pervert in the history of mankind ever dressed as a woman to get into a women's bathroom?
    Hell, I'd bet there has been males dressed as females just to get into a female dorm facility.

    Who really knows what genitals are under clothing? Has anyone taken a study?
     
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    not legally opened
    a man in a women's restroom use to be forced to leave now by law in many states they are allowed to be in them and cant be forced to leave
     
  24. crank

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    No there isn't. There are males, females, and hermaphrodites. Everything else is the province of psychiatrics.

    I never said crazy people aren't people. But that doesn't mean the general public is obliged to pay attention to the details of their delusions. That idea in itself is (*)(*)(*)(*)ing nuts, with respect.
     
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    I once knew this guy who went to India for the first time. He experienced some severe culture shock. He came back talking about how dirty everything was. He said he walked out of this one restaurant and there was a woman doing her business right on the side of the road! LOL
     

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