On trans-sexuals and their "right" to use the opposite sex' bathroom

again, you're ignoring the elephant in the room. when we dropped the requirement for men to impersonate women to gain entry to womens' bathrooms, we opened the door for exploitation by predators.

 

I don't mean to be rude, but 'you once knew a guy who once went to India' makes India seem like it's in another universe. I thought pretty much everyone under the age of 60 went to India in their wild and crazy youth - you know, on the backpacker trail. Colour me perplexed.

 

Let's say abide by the law if there is of course.
and how would a woman look like if she use this type of toilet accessory?

 

Maybe that's true for white people, but I'm black, and I know few blacks who have been to India, and me personally, I have never been.

 

Since I have been drawn back into this discussion, lets examine this.

No that's not the argument. The argument is that saying someone from a particular group makes you feel uncomfortable is not NECESSARILY grounds for prohibiting that group from a public restroom. It could be IF combined with other factors. For example if you can demonstrate that the group is likely in most instances to pose a threat, then the argument would have some merit. However, just saying that someone makes you feel uncomfortable, IN ITSELF, is not sufficient.

 

OMG ..... wisdom like that has no place in the 21st century. You're going to be sent to a reeducation camp.

 

interesting. during my travels with backpack I met fellow travellers of every colour and ethnicity. including African Americans (who were better company than most, it must be said. I found them, and Japanese peeps were the easiest to be around. much funnier than Europeans).

 

Well, I can tell you, I know quite a few white people who have been to India. I know far fewer blacks who have been. And me personally, I have never been. Furthermore, although I have in interest in going to India, it certainly is not for backpacking. That's just not me.

 

the threat is, the real threat is, the documented threat is, by allowing transgenders to use women's facilities and making that policy you are openly allowing every pervert to claim the are transgender they don't even have to attempt to resemble the opposite sex they can walk right in and satisfy their perversion and not a dam thing can be done about it because they are allowed to do so by law
so by trying to make .01% of the population more comfortable you are putting 50% of the population at risk
so tell me what is more important what out weighs the other .01 being more comfortable or reducing the risk of sexual assault of 50% of the population?

 

I'm not telling you what I have read in documentation. I am telling you what I have experienced. Gay male perverts in a bathroom pose a threat. Should we ban gay men from public restrooms as a result?

http://occupydemocrats.com/2016/04/13/gop-congressmen-get-kinky-bathrooms-transgender-folk/

 

Oh I'm with you there. My third world backpacking days are well and truly over. In fact I've vowed never to visit another third world nation again, for the remainder of my life. Not even if it's in five star hotels (which after all, have the same pathogen laden water as the shanty town down the road). I've spent too much of my travel time trying to stay healthy in places where good health is hard to maintain. That's no kind of 'holiday'.

 

Actually I was talking with the VP of our division a couple of months ago. She told me she went to India backpacking when she was in college.

Personally, I'm interested in India for its spiritual value. There are some very old temples there. I have had some very realistic dreams about temples. I have been fascinated with ancient Indian philosophy and culture for quite a while.

Like Vedanta philosophy, Indian music has no rival on this planet. This is so awesome

[video=youtube;VdSGGBIpkuw]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VdSGGBIpkuw[/video]

 

Indian music can be very beautiful. I listen to a lot of it in my car. Ragas are great for long drives

Edited to add, India is indeed a fascinating place and culture (though very hard work to visit). It's very ancient, yet somehow very modern. And let's not forget, they gave us hippies

 

That flute piece is gorgeous, btw. Thanks for posting it.

 

You are very, very welcome. I am here enjoying it even as I type. I am happy that someone else appreciates it as much as I do!!

 

So I need to ask for your approval to see whether my discomfort is "justified" and deserves to be addressed.

 

failed argument that would be the same argument as saying because seatbelts don't save all lives we don't need to have seatbelt laws
it is called minimizing risk you cant eliminate all risk of sexual assault but why in the hell do you want to compound it by creating more risk

so your argument is because we cant keep perverted gays out of men's bathrooms that commit sexual assaults we need to make it easier for non gay perverts to commit sexual assault on women by allowing them into women's bathrooms it is only fair

 

Sorry man, there is no proof for the person lacking basic logical abilities.
The woman in the first post clearly said, it is uncomfortable and you are trying to force permanent uncomfort on her in form of law.
And permanent uncomfort causes psychological damage.
Why don't you prove me first that you are human, before asking for any proof.

 

Our policy is a policy designed to serve general population, not your personal fantasies.
Transgenderism is strictly private issue and you have ZERO right to demand public benefits.

 

It’s not about justifying your discomfort, it’s about justifying your expectation that law, regulation and private practice should be determined exclusively on the basis of your discomfort.

 

In the Bible, it is known as the great falling away! Jesus told us, "Do not be deceived by any means, for I shall not come lest there be a falling away first, and the man of sin revealed, the son of perdition".

Everyday more and more people are becoming in opposition of those who believe in Christ. In the middle east more and more Christians are being executed, firing squad or chopped heads. We sit in comfort so far, making us feel as if everything is still ok, or it hasn't gotten that bad yet. Either way, it's being ignored, thus destruction shall come quick. The last thing I want to hear is, "how did all this happen"?

People tell me I need to quit worrying. But at this point, that's like being held upside down over a cliff, and being told quit worrying.

 

It is still illegal for "MEN" to go into women's bathrooms.
Trans people, it is changing.
But that never stopped potential pervs, if it has ever happened, from dressing as a woman and going in. That is illegal if caught then as it will be going forward.

BTW - you didn't answer, do you have an issue with standing at the trough with a gay man right next to you?

 

No, its not my approval. It is what the public determines is appropriate. Believe me, if it were left up to me, there would be many, many things that are currently accepted that would be put to an end. But I, just like you, have to live in a society in which I do not alone determine what is acceptable behavior and what is not.

 

I'm not a trans. Sorry to burst your fantasy.
Trans is not strictly a private issue. Else we'd not be having this discussion. You see, they operate in the public arena, just like you.

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You haven't proven anyone to be crazy either. You opinions don't run policy or label people as normal or crazy.

 

The door is as open now as it has been. It's still illegal for 'men' to go into women's restroom.
A person certified as trans, is not, for all practical purposes, a man.

So, it is you who is ignoring the elephant in the room and having an issue with something that may not exist to any more extent than it has in the past.